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mircea_popescu: a fine example, that idiot.
mircea_popescu: then decides to scam the few legit customers he has to return a 1/5 to 1/3 equity to his invesotrs, and story ends there.
mircea_popescu: then discovers his ROI is about 3 to 5%
mircea_popescu: then blows the whole wad on advertising and freerolls.
mircea_popescu: the way this shit works is, fucktard of the ilk of that byrne fellow figures he knows shit, gets some investors together, anywhere between a few 10s of k's to maybe a million,
fluffypony: domain registered in fucking December, we're now in April, they barely lasted 4 months of scamming
fluffypony: and gamblers (of all people) trust some random site with no track record
fluffypony: the scary thing is that they DID get a shitton of media coverage
fluffypony: I did too in the log
mircea_popescu: anyway, was reading the article. pretty lulzy
mircea_popescu: i think i typoed it
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: that was a typo, was meant to be coinbet
mircea_popescu: lol coinet srsly ? ALL THESE THINGS nobody ever heard of being the biggest ever in their obscure corner onoes!
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: in which /r/Bitcoin can't decide whether to spend its ten cents on supersizing the coke or the fries. it's really unfair anyway because if they supersize one they should get the other for free. << FTFY
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mircea_popescu: ;;later tell cgcardona lol is it the first best largest wot ?
mircea_popescu: from what i hear i'm by no means of a minority oppinion (even if i no longer to that sort of thing on any sort of scale)
mircea_popescu: on that note, often manufacturers explicitly forbid to install updates and servicepacks since it might well break the app. << since heartbleed i'm going to forbid any upgrades as part of the contract in all cases, always and forever.
mircea_popescu: bounce "the odd dos-only application that's critical to the business and irreplacable" << this should be ridiculous but isn't. most "tools" of today aren't actally as good as the tools of the 90s.
mircea_popescu: Adam Penenberg is such an idiot. o herp, please help along with the grandiose effort of making usg snooping more user-acceptable.
fluffypony: that can be arranged, like all things, for a price :-P
mircea_popescu: and we halven the lion population ?
ozbot: Ca tot… s-a tras tot s-a fumat tot s-a baut tot cum e peste tot ? La fel ca peste tot. pe Trilema
BingoBoingo drinks hatorade, goes to bed
fluffypony: why on earth would I borrow money to buy a couch?
BingoBoingo: It is amazing how personal timekeeping hasn't had any advancements since 1970, much like how you still seem fluffypony to be the sort that would borrow bitcoin for cheap polyester couches.
fluffypony: "The movement was, however, used in spacecraft instrument clocks and other time-keeping mechanisms, partly also because NASA was still unsure how gravity would affect mechanical movements."
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: this is interesting - http://www.ablogtowatch.com/top-ten-technically-important-watches-from-1950/
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Did I ever mention how your presence makes me miss truffles?
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: I know people rip on Wikipedia in this chan, but it wouldn't be the worst place to start in understanding how 1950's tech works
BingoBoingo: A silver oxide cell would offer the worst possible discharge curve for that purpose though.
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Not striking, resonating. That's what the coils of copper wire do. It's a fucking watch, not a rail gun.
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: sing by striking the tuning fork?
BingoBoingo: Well, decent doesn't say too much... How many people alive can make them sing (I actually, literally mean sing)
BingoBoingo: Just, don't try the other kind of 357
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Here batteries are easy to find, standard 357s
BingoBoingo: Quartz coming later keeps time better, but only keeps time.
fluffypony: are the batteries hard to come by?
BingoBoingo: The tuning fork both keeps time and moves the hands
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Those two sections wrapped in wire are a tuning fork.
fluffypony: bounce: no clue, it's quite impressive that they make it look like a regular watch face
bounce: wonder how they do white solar panels.
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: That is literally the most boring part of the thing.
fluffypony: I love the exposed resistor
BingoBoingo: The few I've worked on take 357 batteries though, and that is a lot of silver for a year and a half of function.
BingoBoingo: I have yet to see anything as beautiful as the original accutron movements.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It probably goes back to flawed fiat assumptions about costs.
mircea_popescu: judging by the excellent results electrostatic speakers show it's a wonder they've not tried that yet actually.
BingoBoingo: I'd like to see more accutron like tuning fork movements though.
BingoBoingo: Probably. It is hard to compete with a CR 2032 at anything.
mircea_popescu: perhaps resolvable, but i think people just gave up
BingoBoingo: ANd the only I've known of were all made by Japs
fluffypony: you wouldn't be able to tell any of those are solar panels at a glance
BingoBoingo: The couple I've seen inherited the worst parts of quartz and mechanical movements.
mircea_popescu: oh oh. yeah some swiss makers actually tried using quartz oscialltors as an error limiter at some point
BingoBoingo: Seiko also has a mechanically recharged all electric quarts they call kinetic
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seiko has a mechanical powered quartz regulated movement they call "Spring Drive"
mircea_popescu: that thing ?
gribble: Quartz clock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_clock>; HowStuffWorks "How Quartz Watches Work": <http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/clocks-watches/quartz-watch.htm>; Quartz Time Only Clock Movements | Klockit: <http://www.klockit.com/depts/QuartzTimeOnlyClockMovements/dept-157.html>
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I have yet to actually see a quartz automatic outisde of a few questionable seiko examples
BingoBoingo: bounce: Even in the worst case you want to keep them stored well in case everyone else with them decides they aren't worth saving and you end up with something rate
BingoBoingo: bounce: It really depends on the particular watch whether it is worth saving or not.
bounce: used to have a... citizen? automatic. need fixing though, in the end it was off by half an hour a day. should've gotten it fixed while still in warranty. silly me.
BingoBoingo: The sun's overrated. I'd kind of prefer an all tritium powered watch
fluffypony: lemme take photo
bounce: kid in school had a solar, very sparse design. just even matte background for the face, which also was the solar panel only you'd not notice.
BingoBoingo: Seiko still makes proper mechanical automatic movements though.
BingoBoingo: bounce: Kinetic is the seiko term, other manufacterers use different names because trademarks. That is for electrical charging by those means though.
bounce: right. what was the electrical equivalent, 'kinetic' or something?
BingoBoingo: The rotor winds the spring
BingoBoingo: I own more watches than other battery powered devices, but of the ones that don't operate on mechanical energy, solver oxide cells are the most prevalent.
Diablo-D3: the two clocks and the temp sensors use lithiums for obvious reasons
Diablo-D3: I have nothing that uses batteries anymore
Diablo-D3: my harmony remote, and my ti-89
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform needed some batteries for his demo yest, i had the maitre d' scare up some batteries, he came back with two alkalines
Diablo-D3: well, that arent clocks or continuous long term shit
Diablo-D3: I use lsd nimhs in all.... two devices that need batteries
fluffypony: alkalines are still available here - just yesterday I had to buy some AAs and got to choose between alkalines, lithiums, and nimh rechargeables
BingoBoingo: I have yet to see a Lithium 364 button cell
Diablo-D3: like, devices that stay continuously powered more than 2 years, or go outside, or are clocks, etc
Diablo-D3: I put lithiums in anything that a regchargable is inappropriate for
BingoBoingo: ... Usually I buy lithium batteries at the store, Li-ion, LI-polymer and otherwise
Diablo-D3: you need the safety mechanism so you dont kill yourself
BingoBoingo: If they were there I dunno that I would want to buy them
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 i bet you that i won't be able to buy a graphene supercap battery at a convenience store in 2019.
Diablo-D3: their big problem right now is that they're so energy dense, they're hard to handle
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: in the next five years, graphene supercaps will become a commercial reality
BingoBoingo: The logs are sparse the past couple days, so I doubt many newcomers...
mircea_popescu: did that byrne kid ever manage to find his way here ?
Diablo-D3: [04:32:16] <BingoBoingo> I'd like to no longer have LI-ION batteries
BingoBoingo: I ended up travelling just a little bit this weekend.
mircea_popescu: how was the chan meanwhile ?
mircea_popescu: gonna put some pix up once i go through my mail and stuff
BingoBoingo: How was the conference?
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell bitcoinpete When you asked about a line betting operation did the tweet I offered convey enough info?
BingoBoingo: I'd like to no longer have LI-ION batteries
Diablo-D3: I dont think I even own a chess board anymore.