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ThickAsThieves: ATT sends me email about some privacy shiz and says "To allow AT&T
to use your CPNI, no further action is required. "
benkay: "let's
try
this again. does anyone in
the wot know you?"
benkay: "no, are you in
the wot?"
mircea_popescu: i'm making urmom a better gazelle
than
the wot ever was, bish.
ThickAsThieves: whatd
they call
those medievil books for documenting
the deeds of kings, etc
mircea_popescu: the
truth being
that
this shit's so bleedin' advanced ... we are without words.
fluffypony: let's call it
the Bitcoin Social Network instead :-P
mircea_popescu: like
the web is
the set of websites, not
the set of human knowledge
mircea_popescu: the
trouble is
that wot is a horrible name, as it's not OF
TRUST in
the obvious sense, but in
the other one. and it'd seem
to discuss
the actual web, rather
than its notation.
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ThickAsThieves has been recorded.
fluffypony: ;;rate
ThickAsThieves 1 punishment for always being in #bitcoin-assets
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated
to use
the rating system.
fluffypony: ;;rate
ThickAsThieves 1 punishment for always being in #bitcoin-assets
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ThickAsThieves: says
the guy who wants people
to look up words and use
them properly
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well... so maybe
the definition is broken you know ?
ThickAsThieves: you want your gazette
to be impartial and permanent in and of itself
ThickAsThieves: whether you want
to
twist a positive rating into being a punishment seems
to me, another
thing
mircea_popescu: suppose pirate came back and went ;;rate
ThickAsThieves 6
trusted guy helped me launder money
mircea_popescu: punishment is any action upon an agent
that happens irrespective of
the will of
that agent
ThickAsThieves: so maybe i reword
to, any organized effort could benefit from a properly implemented economy
fluffypony: yeah,
the issue is with
the "punishment" part, not
the gazette part
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves everything
that moves has some economic part
mircea_popescu: anyway, a "gazette" is
this ancient
term of "where all
the matters of record are published"
mircea_popescu: this
theory is useful in design : how
to make better mmorpgs.
mircea_popescu: so i put a note on a guy's "officer notesd" place
that hey, you
took all our x runes wtf
mircea_popescu: i CREATED IT because we have an open guild bank where anyone can
take out a stack, but you're not supposed
to
take out
the WHOLE stack of
things you can use 1-2 of
benkay: the
takeaway for me from
the piketty stuff (if anyone cares) is
that claims about how money flows are all hot air and lacking in data.
mircea_popescu: it kinda has it, very rudimentarily, as
the kick log say.
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if
this could be applied
to mmporg guilds, maybe your Rift guild is missing a punishment gazette
benkay: and
the economic matters rarely have data on which
to base claims.
mircea_popescu: most of
the debate dealing with strictly uneconomic matters.
mircea_popescu: not
to mention
the economization of politics, whereby politics are resisted or promoted on alleged economic grounds.
mircea_popescu: there's been a
trend
to economize welfare, and
that just muddies up everything
mircea_popescu: yeah.
the objection
there is not so different from
tlp's objection
that medicalisation of welfare.
ThickAsThieves: "It is important
to bear in mind however
that Bitcoin is merely a
tool,
that what we’re
truly interested in is creating - for
the first
time in perhaps as long as
two centuries - an actual, working economy"
benkay: good grief it's like everyone disappeared for
three days and
then came back and pooped it all out on
the logs
ThickAsThieves: altough you do already claim it is
the first real economy
mircea_popescu: the rest is probably emotional ? or political ? or whatever
the fuck else.
mircea_popescu: say,
the "problem" of x. well... how mcuh of it actually is economical ?
that much should be resolved economically.
mircea_popescu: and generally, it's a knife. it allows
to cleave reality and
the problems of reality into easier
to manage bits.
mircea_popescu: for instance, what does qc do ? does it attack
the forum ?
mircea_popescu: well we apply it
to understand what we do and do not understand better, and formalise both.
ThickAsThieves: so mp, with
this purified definition of economy, how do we apply it
to current situations for benefit?
dignork: mircea_popescu: if
the game was survavibility
mircea_popescu: if you shoot all
the board of X corp, what of it ?
they just hire new ones.
ThickAsThieves: it always amazed me how much arbitrage opportunity existed on
the play exchanges
dignork: mircea_popescu: "mircea_popescu |
this makes corporations win out in any fair contest."
dignork: mircea_popescu: person can win over corporate entity,
think of kill contract for C-level staff
mircea_popescu: a more absolute gift of power could scarcely be devised. "even in hell,
they with
this staff wield power" sort of
thing.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is
the best
thing you could possibly be doing with your
time, not last on
the list because even should it put you in prison, it will probably make you a ruler
there,
too.
mircea_popescu: and from unrelated news : "Nothing makes you more powerful inside
the joint
than a strong grounding in currency arbitrage."
mircea_popescu: if
the contest is running, and it dun matter who's running, he still has
to do 100 meters, be it obama or goldstein,
mircea_popescu: fairness in
this context may not be what you
think when you say
the word.
mircea_popescu: the problem of natural persons vs legal persons is
that natural persons have constraints legal persons do not.
ThickAsThieves: maybe rephrased, would it be preferred
to require currency in a barter
mircea_popescu: what you prefer viewing
things as
tho is not a point of astronomy
mircea_popescu: i mean you know, you can view planets as stars, as in
the case of venus
ThickAsThieves: it is inconvenient
to
transfer
time, so currency is used
benkay: you're born long
time and short housing...
ThickAsThieves: hmm, it's
the only resource everyone has? how one "spends"
their
time may determine
their "wealth" ...?