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mircea_popescu: fluffypony it's actually a measure of their thing failing. in the sense they can't pass off the scamcoin fast enough for their dump-and-dillute engine to actually extract enough value out of the environment to keep the ball rolling.
fluffypony: I would've loved to have seen more
fluffypony: didn't the rota only have 1 case?
dexX7: afaik the lol tribunal works quite well and reduced toxic player behavior greatly
fluffypony: " 75% of the total number of all Dogecoins are held by 0.75% of investors AND this inequity has been INCREASING"
Naphex: so let the users post evidence and yell, and let the community decide :D
Naphex: and its filled with the funniest things ever.
Naphex: the game actually set up a community tribunal
ThickAsThieves: Blockchain Strikes Five Year Deal to Exclusively Manage Bitcoin.com
mircea_popescu: <only> ThickAsThieves: as long as the 3rd party can be anyone, isn't it enough? << definitely not.
mircea_popescu: Naphex> set up community tribunal << you know how well that worked, do you.
jborkl: Now, the company's critics have fresh ammunition because of this same executive. A federal judge in Kansas has ruled that the man in question, Sonny Vleisides, violated the terms of his probation in the lottery scam case. As a result, Vleisides’ probation—previously slated to end in September 2013—will now continue for another two years.
dexX7: what are you referring to by "it"?
ThickAsThieves: not saying it HAS to be moderated
ThickAsThieves: well that raises another point, if it's really decentralized, how is it moderated?
only: not to mention the kiddie porn
ThickAsThieves: as in, if one person is selling weed in a jurisdiction he is not allowed, and you are host to that, you are now a target
ThickAsThieves: they'd also need to provide same security and privacy to any host of the pieces of the system
ThickAsThieves: but i havent seen their method
ThickAsThieves: which is where their plan is most likely to fail
ThickAsThieves: and then ensuring security and privacy
ThickAsThieves: it would involve dentralizing the software and content
dexX7: well trustless cross-chain trading is possible (sort of) as well as colored coins <> btc markets
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user only: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=only | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=only | Rated since: Mon Feb 17 18:33:39 2014
ThickAsThieves: we hadnt discussed the overall decentralizing of a marketplace as a bad thing
jurov: me? i was replying to benkays' water tower sry
ThickAsThieves: bounce may have already summed it up though
Naphex: yet we still dont have that
jurov: yes. but it tihnk the numbers are BS
ThickAsThieves: some things are worse off decentralized
benkay: jurov this thing'd be a radiative collector then?
ThickAsThieves: decntralization would be distributing the risk, not necessarily randomizing it
only: ThickAsThieves: as long as the 3rd party can be anyone, isn't it enough?
ThickAsThieves: wouldnt you rather have one person that is good at it, than 50 that suck or are ill actors?
Naphex: for the lulz
Naphex: set up community tribunal
ThickAsThieves: the 3rd party is the escrow
dexX7: bitrated relies on a third party as mediator
bounce: there's also the revenue model. who'll benefit? thence, who'll build the thing?
only: ThickAsThieves: decentralizing the platform (similar to twister) and the escrow
Naphex: i cant wait for decentralized voip with pay2relay telephony
bounce: to some people "decentralised" is a buzzword. "it must be decentralised!" -- yeah, sure. leaving aside the "how" for a moment (you did think that one through, didn't you?), there's the "then what?" as in how'd you use that in practice? did you just go from a single point of failure to N of those? how does that make the situation better? what if something goes wrong, someone rips you off, et cetera?
ozbot: A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ThickAsThieves: just pay them more
mircea_popescu: anyway, i hope taaki doesn't end up sending intenret hitmen to kill me or something
ThickAsThieves: well they have private disupte resolution
mircea_popescu: im sure they have where to whine at each other
ThickAsThieves: after that i'd have questions about privacy over the system
ThickAsThieves: well according to the Popescu Theory of Economics, DarkMarket is missing at least a public forum
jborkl: Darkmeet <- now that is a good pun
ThickAsThieves: haha darkwallet gets a bsod during the presentation
ThickAsThieves: the context is more around calming people down when they get all angry about welfare exploiters and such
mircea_popescu: people are like their worst fucking punishments
jborkl: mircea , got last block, time since last bloc and unconfirmed added also :)
ozbot: Airbitz & Libbitcoin Team Up to Create DarkMarket - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: it's the taaki-est
mircea_popescu: is it the first and biggest ?
ThickAsThieves: it's funny how maidsafe will no longer accept mastercoins, the very platform they chose
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: the maidsafe address
ThickAsThieves: i could provide a tip address after the fact or such, but no payment would be required
mircea_popescu: what is that addy anyway ?
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I'd love some, can I reimburse you for them?
kakobrekla: see, i told you retards still have ze money.
ThickAsThieves: to all, would you be interested in free Altcoin stickers? note that this would involve providing a mailing address to me or an intermediary
fluffypony: he had such high hopes for the project
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I'm so surprised, and I'm sure bitcoinpete will be too
gribble: Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/>; Strategic superiority, a saga pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/strategic-superiority-a-saga/>; The Ukranian Trilemma - Canadian International Council: <http://opencanada.org/features/the-think-tank/comments (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ;;google trilema "poisonous offering"
benkay: early bitcoin post, talking about the 30B MPEx fee.
benkay: what's the trilema line about business being insulated from the public?
benkay: infinity trust
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mrstickball to user mrstickball: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mrstickball&dest=mrstickball | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mrstickball | Rated since: Fri Jul 5 18:09:54 2013
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mrstickball to user mrstickblal: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mrstickball&dest=mrstickblal | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mrstickblal | Rated since: never
gribble: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.
benkay: ;;seen mrs tick ball
benkay: was this the key that didn't match the wot key associated with the name?
benkay: did pLambert ever sort out the signature of that testament?
fluffypony: because email addresses are hard to create.
fluffypony: at least, with the domains I registered today I had to
fluffypony: I see ICANN now forces you to verify your email if you list your actual contact details on your domain
ThickAsThieves: lol, you have to actually tick a box on the opt out page https://www.att.com/ecpnioptout/InitiateCPNIForm.action
ThickAsThieves: but we have no competitors in the wot either
ThickAsThieves: but basically att not being in the wor, makes them a scammer
ThickAsThieves: but temporary is relative...
mircea_popescu: already good software is gpg based as a matter of course. so what if microsoft doesn't want to sign ?
ThickAsThieves: yeah, i think it's only a temporary problem
mircea_popescu: so now trust is created that's not wot-based. so in a sense old people are attacking the wot through being... stupid.
mircea_popescu: the problem here is that people interact with an entity calling itself at&t and using a non-gribble method of authing.
benkay: mircea_popescu: what delta-t is it leveraging, though?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony only one way to verify it is them.
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: maybe the WoT should allow rating someone unknown based on their public GPG key, if it is known?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the chronicles didn't work that fucking well, either.
ThickAsThieves: it says so right on the caption
benkay: hey so i have my conjectures but how the hell does this work: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/this-tower-pulls-drinking-water-out-of-thin-air-180950399/ ?
mircea_popescu: pick two
ThickAsThieves: it is the chronicle that needed to be auth'd, or the rater
mircea_popescu: (and the fact good names aren't being squatted to fuck amazes me, and it is a testament to the fundamental economic ineptitude of geeks)
fluffypony: zooke triangle? google not giving me love
ThickAsThieves: the chronicles didnt require a king to auth
ThickAsThieves: this seems to be a problem to me