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benkay: Naphex: but can I do all my API calls encrypted to your pubkey?
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah the AN-225 is neat but only one built I think. The An-124 is more closely competitive with the C-5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-124 (call these guys if you need one http://www.poletairlines.com/) It would be ideal for porting your submarine from one ocean to another.
Naphex: OHCL-V Ticker Plant and Payments API+Widgets coming soon
Naphex: withdrawals are blocked from the API atm, so withdrawals only from frontend
Naphex: you set up an API key and you can just use that
Naphex: but the website is meant too ease up stuff for regular folks
decimation: why can't you replace the username/password pair with a hash of the public key?
Naphex: not really, just in the frontend
benkay: i imagine the u/p requirement is baked in pretty hard by your framework?
Naphex: with gpg auth the flow is going to be username/pass -> gpg otp -> logged in
benkay: my ideal login flow is to just provide you a key
benkay: am i going to have to give you an email as well?
Naphex: probably in a few weeks, is going to be up
Naphex: already started work on implementing gpg otp in the validation server
benkay: locals are asking about where to trade these days
ThickAsThieves: btw someone here recommend i watch the Black Mirror, turns out I already saw it, and had been trying to remember it for a while cuz i liked episode 2
mircea_popescu: check out the dice better
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $300 before June
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jurov: i an't making it in foreseeable time anyway. maybe someone does more thorough calc and writes it up for google to find
mike_c: artifexd: nethash is through the roof too. altcoin is just booming in general.
artifexd: Last ATC trade was at 224 satoshis. BingoBoingo pushing up the price?
mircea_popescu: and that 4mw figure must be some sort of maximal for shorter distances, i can't imagine putting 4mw through 100km of fiber.
jurov: i see, trying to convert properly
benkay: madness i tell ya
benkay: or if you're doing something like a phased microwave array around the planet, coating the bottom of the vehicle with a microwave rectifier
benkay: oh but mp you can do fun things with rectifying the photons and making of the hotness
jurov: but even if it can replace only 30% energy that is otherwise needed to get by burning fuel
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, how many lux are needed to boil a mol of water ?
mircea_popescu: is this some sort of insider joke im not privy to ?
jurov: maybe it can be done in such way it will have enough velocity to switch to ion
jurov: the fiber is just a means to supply energy to the thruster
mircea_popescu: well then i don't follow.
jurov: i'm *not* talking about suspended operation
jurov: this will be too
mircea_popescu: the only place where it'd matter would be if the part of wire with high mommentum was lighter than the parts surrounding it. this isn't going to happen.
mircea_popescu: jurov the weight has very little to do with oscillation.
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jurov: and again, i'm not sure the pull stress on fiber will end up so big. fiber is already in use for to communicate with mother ship
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asciilifeform: i.e. how are you to convert the light into usable thrust.
asciilifeform: let's imagine unbreakable fiber, spherical horse. what's on the other end?
jurov: you are telling me something that has few grams and 100km will be shaking violently in air?
jurov: it does. lightweight fiber gets dampened more than heavier rope
mircea_popescu: the weight of the fiber doesn't really have much to do with it
jurov: it will *not* oscillate because the air is viscouous and the fiber too light
asciilifeform: (note what shape the world's talles buildings were prior to structural steel.)
jurov: yes arbitrary length. i'm gertain you have chick to pull it off.
mircea_popescu: course, that cone has to have a basis
mircea_popescu: artifexd that's excessive, but a cone works well to resolve this problem.
mircea_popescu: that means i pick the length, not you
jurov: and try to play it
jurov: but i insist. make your hair taut
artifexd: Truly random would mean that at some point the diameter would be 0.
mircea_popescu: otherwise your harmonics problem simply reduces to the new limits
asciilifeform: the only elevator scheme described to date, afaik, that stands a chance of working, is... 'tower of babel.'
mircea_popescu: but you need to have it random.
artifexd: I would think that the minimum diameter (given similar materials) would determine the breaking point, not whether the diameter of this cross section is the same as the cross section 100 ft away.
mircea_popescu: so no, making it resistent to harmonics by making it shittier just means it'll be shittier.
mircea_popescu: and so, for about a century, making better rope was more important for each country than making better ipads is today.
mircea_popescu: and since the ships use cannons, the larger ship always wins.
mircea_popescu: that longest length of rope valueestablishes the largest ship you can build, i nthe age of sail
mircea_popescu: it works like this : the quality of the rope (ie, its uniformity) establishes the longest length of rope that can be operated credibly
mircea_popescu: jurov that doesn't help you. air isn't my gf.
mircea_popescu: do you know what was the first industrial product, and the one thing that started the industrial revolution ?
jurov: don't forget the length (and harmonic freq) will change dramamtically over time
mircea_popescu: artifexd this leads you to the problem of the rope. do you know the problem of the rope ?
artifexd: Reduce the quality control on the fiber productions in order to introduce random variations in the fiber thickness and thus harmonic frequencies.
jurov: like, you can't play guitar with silk threads
mircea_popescu: so do the math. calculate the the maximum shear force that can occur in a taut fiber of arbitrary length ?
jurov: neds to be simulated/computed. but i hope for such thin fiber, the air is viscouous enough so that it will dampen it
mircea_popescu: at any arbitrary point 100km worth of air can decide to sing traviata into your fiber and there's jack shit you can do about it.
mircea_popescu: and the glass popped
mircea_popescu: when i was younger i used to fuck this young opera singer chick. she did this trick whereby she'd sing into a glas
mircea_popescu: let me tell you a story from my youth.
mircea_popescu: caused by the medium going harmonic.
benkay: these things stack.
jurov: mircea_popescu: since the fiber is very light, major factor will be air drag (should be minimal in case first 100km of takeoff is vertical takeoff)
benkay: bonuses in preheating the h2 by cooling incoming air
benkay: effective iSP is much greater than that of tradiitonal rockets, even exotics like RFNO which have been abandoned due to engineering concerns.
jurov: benkay: it still must carry half of the fuel
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mircea_popescu: jurov ever calculated the maximum shear force that can occur in a taut fiber of arbitrary length ?
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> i doubt he cares THAT much << i can't imagine either.
jurov: i want someone to explain me what is unattainable here, so far did not find anything.
benkay: more attainable within our lifetimes, jurov, is the rocket engine that uses ambient oxidizer to mach 5.
jurov: just use it to deliver large part of energy to blast stuff to orvit
ThickAsThieves: just the notion of wanting altcoins to die at all says more about the notioner
jurov: i don't want to suspend it
fluffypony: asciilifeform: just use the Web of Thrust
asciilifeform: (ignoring, for a moment, the purpose of suspending 100km of fiber, sans payload)
ThickAsThieves: i doubt he cares THAT much
asciilifeform: then, pesky problem of thrust.
fluffypony: kakobrekla: the "please…" line was when he rage-quit
jurov: that's about the volume of 100km monomode fiber
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
mircea_popescu: jurov im aware, just making teh point.
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: he's angry that we spoke about altcoins
asciilifeform: then, wind on cross-section of 1km * 0.1mm (or whatever thickness)