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ThickAsThieves: if you need help getting auth'd and all that jazz, people in here can help
ThickAsThieves: they buyback their own stock
ThickAsThieves: through the bond offering
ThickAsThieves: in order to keep the money overseas to avoid tax
bounce: because the cash isn't really cash and stuck across borders and more of that bs?
ozbot: With all that cash, why is Apple borrowing to raise its dividend and buybacks? | PandoDaily
ThickAsThieves: http://pando.com/2014/04/29/with-all-that-cash-why-is-apple-borrowing-to-raise-its-dividend-and-buybacks/ this is interesting
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: they provided a snurl'd link to the SEC filing in the OP
gribble: Bitstamp | Total bids: 9884457 USD. Total asks: 23180 BTC. Ratio: 426.41103 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 58.1081 seconds
ThickAsThieves: thats like excactly the price
gribble: Bitstamp | The weighted average price of BTC, 1000.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 446.28772 USD. | Data vintage: 0.1078 seconds
ThickAsThieves: (i assume someone verified they did?)
ThickAsThieves: interesting that they filed at all
fluffypony: "Just be happy that nobody has mentioned the Whistleblower program, which provides a 10-30% bounty on SEC enforcement actions that result from tips on possible SEC violations. With all of the faucet mongers on this forum, I imagine at least one or two of them would spend a few minutes on the SEC website for a payday down the road."
random_cat_: too bad halfreward does not mention the block number
gribble: Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Sun Aug 21 14:55:32 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 2 years, 16 weeks, 2 days, 1 hour, and 0 seconds.
ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://pando.com/2014/04/29/skillbridge-is-racing-to-become-the-freelance-consultants-marketplace/ in regards to having a "bitcoin freelance.com" how might that differ from freelance.com and the like simply accepting bitcoin? to ONLY accept bitcoin?
ThickAsThieves: "A unique category of property is money, which in some legal systems is treated as tangible property and in others as intangible property."
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: why try to put a square in a round hole << i've said this for years. but now i'm starting to understand people are so stupid they don't realize they are stupid
ThickAsThieves: hell they dont even have to do that, maybe just go ahead and let it be multiple things in law
ThickAsThieves: why try to put a square in a round hole
ThickAsThieves: seems they are trying to solve the wrong problem\
fluffypony: so basically: "Bitcoin is money. Or property. Or a medium of exchange. Or a store of value. Or gold. Dependent on whether we want to prosecute or tax you or both."
Apocalyptic: fluffypony, ok, thanks
Naphex: so easy to understand, and see what's going on ;]
Apocalyptic: can you ask him if he's the HZV Stalker ?
Apocalyptic: where did this convo take place ?
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: no clue if that's his nick here, I'd assume so
Apocalyptic: I mean THE Stalker ?
fluffypony: ;;later tell asciilifeform thought you'd enjoy your views on Lisp being confirmed by the South African netsec community: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WAEfFWvp
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-mark-cuban/ :)
punkman: meanwhile, namecheap answers: "Unfortunately, technical department informed us that you should use only static IPs wih API. Once the IP is changed automatically the API will fail."
punkman: I'll try their API, had it on some todo list a while ago
punkman: mircea_popescu: there's scribd, but it kinda sucks http://www.scribd.com/vacuum?url=
fluffypony: lemme play with this little python snippet and see what I can do
mircea_popescu: "you don't need to interact with pdfs anymore, just prefix all pdf download links with http://fluffypony.com/fuckadobe/"
mircea_popescu: fluffypony set it for the world, it's a good utility.
mircea_popescu: call it the deadobinator.
fluffypony: if you want I'll setup a little service to do it for you, we're running ghostscript on the one server for PDF invoices
mircea_popescu: except it takes in pdf and spits out actual text.
mircea_popescu: someone should make a website that works just like google translate,
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: ghostscript can do pdf to html via via, here's a python3 snippet for it: http://williamedwardscoder.tumblr.com/post/36700759050/converting-pdf-to-html
mircea_popescu: cazalla ah ty.
mircea_popescu: rmation. But if you trade on the information, is it insider trading ? The answer as best I understand the law is NO. It is not insider trading. Why ? Because the CEO did not ask you to keep the information confidential. Nor did he ask you not to trade on the information. You have no responsibility to him. You can trade and tell the world about his deal if you would like."
mircea_popescu: "My understanding of insider trading law is that in order for it to be insider trading, there must be some violation of trust. In other words, if someone walked up to you and said “Im the CEO of this public company and I’m about to make the biggest cash sale in the history of the company and we will blow away all wall street numbers and you should buy the stock”. That is without question material, non-public info
cazalla: mircea_popescu: 32 As an aside, there are options contracts for delivery of bitcoins and bitcoin - denomina ted commodity futures being sold at the MPEx Exchange . Recent news reports suggest that the Commodity and Futures Tr ading Commission in the US is evaluating its role in derivatives contracts that are denominated in bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: cazalla mind quoting the brief mention ?
mircea_popescu: why is the web made by imbeciles! srsly, how hard is to think this one through guys!
mircea_popescu: holy shit there's 1mn pdf to html/etc converters online, NONE of them will take an url as input
mircea_popescu: decimation: a parent who so acts today would probably be reported to the FBI << i had a chemistry lab. complete with strong acids and everything, i had like a pint of vitriol oil.
mircea_popescu: decimation: mirceau_popescu: the treatment of individuals << dude you srsly typed that out ?!
fluffypony: ;;later tell dexX7 thanks for giving me morning readings :)
fluffypony: I'll track back and look at it this morning when I get a mo :)
fluffypony: I saw it in the log but got busy
cazalla: http://www.rba.gov.au/foi/disclosure-log/pdf/131419.pdf old document but released today, brief mention of MPEx page 9
ThickAsThieves: flight to amsterdam is booked!
TestingUnoDosTre: gracias - found out I have to become more creative
ozbot: My First SEC Trial Transcript Has Some Real Comedy and a Message to Mary Jo White – SEC vs Schvach
mike_c: a worthy read. many lulz at the expense of the sec.
decimation: Later, Norris recalls, he asked Cray to write a five-year plan for CDC. The result: ''Five year goal: Build the biggest computer in the world. One year goal: Achieve one-fifth of the above.''
TestingUnoDosTre: isn't chemistry one of the most dangerous activities for kids>
decimation: a parent who so acts today would probably be reported to the FBI
decimation: http://www.businessweek.com/1989-94/pre88/b31571.htm Cray's parents nurtured his sharp, voracious mind. His father stocked a basement laboratory with chemistry sets and radio gear and permitted young Seymour to tinker into the wee hours.
TestingUnoDosTre: that's where all the fastest internet connections are... under da sea
decimation: I think the best feature of an undersea journey across the ocean would be the forced disconnection from the world. Seymour Cray said he got his best ideas digging a tunnel under his backyard.
TestingUnoDosTre: is it possible to check w/ nickserv if someone has taken a nickname?
danielpbarron: TestingUnoDosTre: thanks
decimation: One of the best ways for a violator to demonstrate that its violation was not willful is to self-disclose it. Indeed, in recognition of this fact and in order to encourage self-disclosures of systemic problems, the Department of Justice has followed a policy of foregoing prosecutions of companies that make complete, and self-initiated voluntary disclosures.1 (The same policy does not apply to individuals.)
decimation: mirceau_popescu: the treatment of individuals vs. corporations: http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=a274ed18-760a-42ed-b7be-b17bb0f63d54
TestingUnoDosTre: danielpbarron I can not offer commentary on trustworthiness of dignork. He helped me sign up a gpg key on my tablet while I was traveling for work. I have never done any business with him
benkay: davout: who is this Sorcier_FXK ?
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Sorcier_FXK: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Sorcier_FXK | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Sorcier_FXK | Rated since: Mon Apr 7 17:15:49 2014
benkay: welcome, Sorcier_FXK - what brings you to this vile armpit of the internet?
asciilifeform: as in, how you can tell that a fellow's a russian even if he lives in new york, never once mentions russia, writes in 'the king's english', etc.
asciilifeform: so far, reading these has taught me that 'hipster' is something approaching an ethnic group
mircea_popescu: (hyperbola and word salad is the cracked.com recipe)
asciilifeform: fellow's a crackpot, but the entertaining kind.
mircea_popescu: heh. the adversaries have it all mapped out, but thanks.
mircea_popescu: "Any positive or negative response on a request-by-request basis would allow our adversaries to accumulate information and draw conclusions about NSA's technical capabilities, sources, and methods."
benkay: well if you had the bits, why not just recompile?
mircea_popescu: ht hours to stand down their armies before I nuked them back to the Cambrian. I probably wouldn't euthanize old people, but I might force abortions on the stupid."
mircea_popescu: "I can't even weigh in on what passes for political discourse in this country because I would actually do what the crazies are accusing Obama of doing. Seriously: I would take away everyone's guns, force public healthcare on everyone, put all the bankers in jail, engage in a strategic, federally-funded campaign to eradicate religion, turn us into a socialist state, and give every annoying country in the world forty-eig
mircea_popescu: nah, the entire assemblage collapsed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: broke a leg off the table to hammer at a monitor << soviet school of display repair! werks for me!
ozbot: Me and the NSA
mircea_popescu: hm. but i guess this actually works, cause im not really a coder. a well.
mircea_popescu: ridiculous. i beat the shit out of my systems. i broke a leg off the table to hammer at a monitor once.
mircea_popescu: " The only reason coders' computers work better than non-coders' computers is coders know computers are schizophrenic little children with auto-immune diseases and we don't beat them when they're bad."
benkay: AND CAN'T TELL IF IT WAS A GOOD DEAL
benkay: i traded piss tests and the risk of digit loss for pressed shitboard
benkay: "So no, I'm not required to be able to lift objects weighing up to fifty pounds. I traded that for the opportunity to trim Satan's pubic hair while he dines out of my open skull so a few bits of the internet will continue to work for a few more days."
benkay: who was it that said programming is the art of telling people what to make the computer do?
benkay: "ERROR: Attempted to parse HTML with regular expression; system returned Cthulhu.
asciilifeform: http://stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks << great piece. this is why two common career goals of programmers are 1) quit programming 2) find work where you program alone
dexX7: well, then you should go ahead and correct it maybe?
pankkake: and the online documentation is wrong in some places
Duffer1: ;;rate dexX7 5 discreet, trustworthy steward of Ciphermine-PT
gribble: Error: The "GPG" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "rate" in it. Try "list GPG" to see the commands in the "GPG" plugin.
Duffer1: ;;gpg rate dexX7 5 discreet, trustworthy steward of Ciphermine-PT
gribble: Error: The "GPG" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "rate" in it. Try "list GPG" to see the commands in the "GPG" plugin.