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fluffypony: JorgePasada: I like VertCoin because it keeps my GPU frames in business; I'm peripherally interested in PPC because of PoS; I think X11 based coins like Darkcoin are playing with some interesting concepts, and I am VERY interested in (the new) Bytecoin's ring signatures (although I prefer Monero as it's Bytecoin's code but without the dodgy premine/possibly faked blockchain data)
mircea_popescu: or are we of the persuasion now that laws need just be made, and teh populace will just swallow whatever they happen to be /
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves:is bitcoin money? yes is it property? yes << and who the fuck would accept such laws ?
fluffypony: he thinks they are the very scorn of the earth
asciilifeform: it is theoretically possible to have an interesting alt
fluffypony: JorgePasada: there are some altcoins I quite fancy
JorgePasada: I'm assuming the general opinion in this channel is that most of the altcoins are just pump and dump schemes
asciilifeform: 'the irish maidens have not lost their virtue, merely misplaced it by inch'
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves wait, you dumped the girl because she took it in the ass ?! dude you're wrapped up too tight.
mircea_popescu: hey, what was btc-e's first altcoin scam thing called ? i forget, was it novacoin ?
ThickAsThieves: well we never screwed, that event kinda wrecked things over time
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "honey, all that trouble i went to so you could have a bloodied pecker and make me hurt... show some appreciaiton."
asciilifeform: perhaps also for reasons that no one particularly likes to discuss
ThickAsThieves: all these claims of virginity, then one day "Hey did you know Mikey put it in her pooper?"
asciilifeform: as far as perversions go, this one is quite popular.
asciilifeform: would almost certainly give solid proof that fucked or sucked sans rubber
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i knew chicks like that. "saving themselves for marriage". kinda pervy imo
asciilifeform: antibody-based test.
mircea_popescu: plenty of countries around the world you can get a virginity cert off any gp.
asciilifeform: damned if i know, ask the client.
asciilifeform: some folks pay extra $5k+ for new car, vs. one driven off the lot once
BigBitz: Pick up hooker. Go to Australia. Done.
fluffypony: [00:25:28] <CampJustice> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ - Much better than being in that channel
ThickAsThieves: "In order to circumvent U.S. laws prohibiting prostitution, Raine said the actual sex experience will take place in Australia, where it is legal."
BigBitz: ty ty
gribble: You rated user fluffypony on Mon Apr 14 15:08:15 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: PPUSD for BTC. Smoooooth sailing..
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask BigBitz!~BigBitz@unaffiliated/bigbitz. Trust relationship from user assbot to user BigBitz: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=BigBitz | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BigBitz | Rated since: Fri Apr 26 11:13:53 2013
ThickAsThieves: assbot trusts no one
BigBitz: Where is my assbot trust!
mircea_popescu: fluffypony that was unexpected
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no, not just that. plenty of things.
mircea_popescu: ooo look at all the blinking lights
punkman: how big is the namecoin blockchain now?
danielpbarron: and cool, i'm going to update my id/ to make it work on that site
danielpbarron: why does everyone keep saying "give private key to someone" << I never suggested doing that!
pankkake: except I didn't have to give my private key to anyone
punkman: isn't there one like keybase that works on namecoin?
danielpbarron: or was that sarcasm?
fluffypony: domain hacks are all the rage
danielpbarron: that would be cool too; i've been a fan of Namecoin for a while now
pankkake: if only namecoin didn't solve all that already
danielpbarron: there could be more than one WoT twitter bot, too (is this getting close to a decentralized WoT; just brainstorming here)
danielpbarron: you could issue a twitter revocation message
danielpbarron: it would help to have a standard, whatever it is, so that the WoT twitter bot could scan for the verification tweets for the purpose of authing users
asciilifeform: of course, later account is taken over by spammers, whoever
danielpbarron: lol so don't trust keybase; you can still GPG sign a data object describing your association with a twitter profile and then calculate a hash of that signature and tweet it
asciilifeform: how keybase can be trusted to do anything at all, is beyond me
fluffypony: so I'm told
danielpbarron: you don't have to use keybase to do what i'm suggesting
asciilifeform: keybase.io << the scambase that wants your priv key, right
danielpbarron: what I mean is: give gribble a twitter account
danielpbarron: right, that's what i'm referring to
danielpbarron: has anyone in here ever floated the idea of bringing the WoT to twitter? There is a way to verify that a GPG key is associated with a twitter profile; #bitcoin-otc could be replaced with a twitter hashtag
mike_c: 112bit's thread: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/antminer-s1-u-s-868-u2-x-500-u-s-8550-bitmain-for-usa-112bit-com.255811/
BingoBoingo: Maybe I haven't heard of them because there hasn't been a big fuss over "scam"
mike_c: pay the money, few days later a dusty box shows up from china.
mike_c: yeah. there are a few "companies" doing bitmain reselling in US. that guy (112bit) has been doing it for awhile.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: That... actually doesn't seem bad.
danielpbarron: rithm: i mostly read in here; my opinion barely matters at my stage in the game
rithm: would it be terrible if you couldn't get voiced in her danielpbarron
assbot: danielpbarron, you can't do that to rithm.
benkay: should be able to purchase hashes on one of the hash exchanges
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I'm not actually looking to hash, but I am supposing if someone actually wanted hash... Who sells hash.
mike_c: BingoBoingo: how much hash you looking to get?
assbot: rithm, you can't do that to danielpbarron.
BingoBoingo: I dun think seems so is good enough for mining hardware.
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Do they actually deliver?
BingoBoingo: I'm kind of wondering... Spz someone wanted to buy an SHA-256 ASIC for AltCoin... Where the fuck would they even buy one?
ThickAsThieves: well we aint gonna change the diff adjustment time now
fluffypony: I'd argue that Satoshi was optimistic in his difficulty adjustment timeframe
fluffypony: how is adding a more rapid difficulty adjustment "completely" changing the coin?
mike_c: yes, well, i'd rather pay a miner 0.2 btc to let us down gently from this difficulty bump instead of completely change the coin.
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fluffypony: so whilst doing the whole "Bitcoin in disguise" thing is humorous, if the aim is to prevent multipools or someone with a wack of hashing power abusing it (and thus making it even more useless/pointless) then there are solutions to that
fluffypony: mike_c: which is fine when you have 57ph/s network wide, but when you have a significantly small distribution it's easy to manipulat
mike_c: one of the nice things about altcoin is that is bitcoin in disguise.
fluffypony: but they prevent multipools from taking advantage much
fluffypony: in terms of multi-pools
fluffypony: is there a firm love for sha256 as an algo?
ThickAsThieves: Patron of the Motherland
ThickAsThieves: i think stan might be good at designing membership levels
ThickAsThieves: except we actually do stuff for the health of the coin n stuff
ThickAsThieves: maybe we start the Altcoin Foundation
mike_c: i'd also like to hear more from mircea_popescu if he thinks this is a bad idea.
mike_c: well, mining is a PITA. I would be interested to know what it would cost to get an option from some miners where they would agree to put some hashes on ATC when we want in the amounts we want.
BingoBoingo: With only just under 6% mined, I dunno if advancing difficulty supposed price is the right approach.
ThickAsThieves: but that doesnt mean i wont donate to someone else providing hash security for the network
ThickAsThieves: i wish to maintain my promise to never mine any
ThickAsThieves: if we can think of a sound way to do it
ThickAsThieves: mike_c well i'm down to help
atcbot: [ATC Mined] ATC Mined (to date): 15575552 Total ATC (to be mined): 268435456 % Mined of Total: 5.80
mod6: yeah, i can add that too.
atcbot: [ATC Last Block] Height: 30422 Time: 2014-04-30T19:37:51Z Vout Sum: 512 Number TXs: 1 Difficulty: 455357.12903751 Hash: 0000000000002498569861e6b76cafa903d6e235cf337d8da3d4d7a8d224eceb Fee: 0.00000000 Size: 518 Days Destroyed: 0 Confirmations: 1
mod6: on the next restart, some of those commands will be smaller: %last_block becomes %lb, etc.
mike_c: hands-off management might not be the answer here :)
mod6: thestringpuller: and remember there is always %help
mike_c: so having some TH/s in your back pocket to smooth out these kind of bumps still seems like a good idea.
mike_c: and could result in the same problem happenning again
mike_c: now the only way to attract would be to make it profitable at the new difficulty level, which is way too high
mike_c: well, price support is nice. but it seems that can lead to what just happened. that is, it gets profitable and so a huge flood of hash hits the network, profit is taken, and hash leaves.