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mircea_popescu: most kids don't get to. that's life.
mircea_popescu: look, you've seen kids play ? all the kids aspire to be the kid that picks what game they all play.
JorgePasada: all those things completely ignore the buy side of the equation
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: because what they're really saying is "I just want to be able to sell this thing for value without actually having a market to determine what that value is"
mircea_popescu: JorgePasada what do people know. they also say "abstinence only sex ed" and stuff.
mike_c: it was some good quotes from the trial though.
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: Yeah, bothers me when people say "Hoarding is bad" or "People need to use their coins instead of holding them" or "Speculators are ruining the market"
mircea_popescu: mike_c indeed you were :p but i was saying he's an asshole, not clueless. which i do believe is what happened there, he started trying to be pr-asshole and ended up losing focus and just spilling.
mircea_popescu: incidentally : bitcoin's constant dfif growth is a major driver of inflation (more coins / unit time than designed = inflation), and that acts as a price depressant.
mike_c: re: cuban, you started the article basically saying he was clueless :) i'm just a fanboy, so i was feeling defensive.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, there's exactly one failure mode of a coin, and that is, no buy side.
mike_c: yeah. i guess if there were a merchant trying to use ATC he'd probably be the only one worked up over it. hey satoshijack, what you think?
mircea_popescu: in other words, "woman, i know you love the kid, now let him crack his fucking skull open. we'll mend him afterwards, IF he manages."
mircea_popescu: i mean, this coiuld marghinally be an argument if there were like, merchants, doing txn, being disrupted. but the average txn per block is like... 0.8 or something
mircea_popescu: remember that "Resilience" is just another way of saying "not giving a shit".
mircea_popescu: let the coin write its own history, what.
mircea_popescu: not for this reason.
mike_c: "every altcoin goes through this" << yes.. and most of them fail.
mircea_popescu: so in short, i don't think it's a bad idea if thats how you want to spend your time, but i do think it doesn't do much either way.
mike_c: BingoBoingo: ah, that's cool
mircea_popescu: a single day on xtc there were like 30k blocks traded.
mircea_popescu: "profit is taken" is nonsense. the huge flood mines what, 50 blocks ? 500 ? what profit is there to be taken,
mircea_popescu: atc is handling it way better than the average.
mircea_popescu: mike_c actually i think the variations in hashing are great. -2/3 isn't too impressive, and every al;tcoin goes through this scenario.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Looks like you are getting the first S.MPIF statement tonight so you can analytics.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: outrageous viewpoints are more engaging! (see trilema) << what, the outrage is wholly user contributed.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves tried to rate him, not in the database
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user jorash: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=jorash | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jorash | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: bounce:where was that piece about quantum-proofing bitcoin? it's apparently doable << dude srsly. quantum proofing is not doable.
Naphex: thats the joke ;]
Naphex: well, better sleep then stay all night optimizing dumdum raid arrays with ssd's
mircea_popescu: every night, too.
mircea_popescu: this guy sleeps too much dioesn't he
fluffypony: bed time noa, night guys
BingoBoingo: joecool: Sure some people spend tons of time there, but some people also buy groceries for sweepstakes entries.
mircea_popescu: you end up trying to replicate it.
joecool: BingoBoingo: there was a woman that found the only perfect natural diamond ever recorded a few years back, she's likely still diggin away
mircea_popescu: i think i probably formed more llcs than anyone in bitcoin has had sex partners, and probably in more jurisdictions than these folks have travelled.
joecool: BingoBoingo: it involves effort and luck, some people do spent tons of time there
mircea_popescu: my argument here is that he fails to meet even the lowest common denominator.
mircea_popescu: joecool that may be true, except, it's not his case.
BingoBoingo: I mean Arkansas has a state park where the reason to go is diamonds, often of gem quality, literally lay on the ground. Yet people don't go flood Arkansas trying to get to that one attraction.
joecool: it's the hipster way™
joecool: mircea_popescu: i'm just saying, the past decade or so, everyone sets up an LLC for something, and 99% of them fail or do nothing
fluffypony: someone pitch it to kako
joecool: mircea_popescu: no clue, they are all likely hard to remember names
BingoBoingo: Well... I've never found anything about the place pleasant. Doesn't preclude the occasional gem from coming out of there, but it's enough to judge the location.
fluffypony: every time someone says thought
fluffypony: assbot needs to be like"THOUGHT LEADER!"
mircea_popescu: punkman: "Amir Taaki is listed by Forbes as one of the top 30 entrepreneurs under 30 in 2014" << how the fuck's that kid an entrepreneur lol
mircea_popescu: one of the better cocksuckers i know used to live there pre-rescue.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo dude why all the ohio hate
fluffypony: "I still haven't gotten dick all, other then a lower share price and a huge missed opportunity on GoCoin, from seedcoin1. Fuck this."
mircea_popescu: first ever transparency.
fluffypony: a Google Doc = transparency
fluffypony: "They link to a google doc on their website (which is where I pointed you to on my previous post). It's an example of putting in effort on transparency."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> everyone wants to fucking push the rope. << It's how one shoots self with a Bow.
ThickAsThieves: mp i think the20year is in the wot no?
mircea_popescu: everyone wants to fucking push the rope.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i'll just be a thought follower.
mircea_popescu: the20year: Not here at least it seems << dude you're becoming an exercise in squandered youth. shoulda gotten in the wot like you know, 6 months ago or w/e.
asciilifeform: shards of the true cross.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: we should ALL become thought leaders...it could be the criteria for us each running our own One True UK Bitcoin Exchange
JorgePasada: ThickAsThieves: benkay introduced me to this place, know him from meetups/trading locally
mircea_popescu: what is with these fuckwits! it's like an entire new circle of strange broke last year, the "thoughht leaders"
JorgePasada: ThickAsThieves: I'm just some guy, who does things. :-)
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: Christian Papathanasiou is "widely considered a UK thought leader" << does this guy aspire to overtake Dr. Foreskin ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: EVERYONE should start one and claim there's is the only TRUE one << start them in scotland, make every logics professor happy.
asciilifeform: fluffypony: that came out a hex turd here.
mircea_popescu: especially if it's a cute girl with nice tits.
mircea_popescu: i'm a grown man, i'm not affraid to hug a pokemon
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: next thing you'll be using emoji in chan
mircea_popescu: mike_c: proof of concept: http://www.btcalpha.com/bb_ad.png (reload a few times for dynamicism) << dude that's fucken epic. wow. such wow.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform now that's also a valid point.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: there's a widget for calculating cum ROI across any timespan on there << I lolled. because cum ROI is lolzy.
asciilifeform: the way i understand it, high property values stopped being a proxy for 'nice place to live' sometime around when 'programmer' became a profession.
mircea_popescu: joecool judging by the property values, it's somewhere between kenya and utah
joecool: well it's not like ohio's a very appealing place to go
BingoBoingo: Only thin Ohio as produced are astronauts, people so traumatized by Ohio they had to leave this world.
mircea_popescu: that apparently only they know about.
mircea_popescu: ohio is like, figthing wisconsin to the death in this derpiest state competition
BingoBoingo: ^^ the20year mrstickball
asciilifeform: which, in turn, reduces to 'just let me conjure up all the coin and parcel it out to the lot of you idiots'
asciilifeform: it seems to reduce to 'mining wastes energy so let's have central banks'
fluffypony: asciilifeform: presumably once I understand the "how" I may come to the same conlusion
asciilifeform: i understand how 'proof of stake' works. but not wtf is the point.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I know, it's on my "stuff to understand" list
fluffypony: JorgePasada: ThickAsThieves is going to it
mircea_popescu: fluffypony but that was my point. if you think something's interesting you gotta be able to explain it :)
JorgePasada: the problem is I have yet to see a good way of implementing it that handles both the technical AND social aspects of implementation
fluffypony mircea_popescu: I don't know it in enough detail to tl;dr, so this'll have to do - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_Stake
mircea_popescu: so that's everyone then, i will be publishing the f.mpif 1st statement tonight. ☟︎
JorgePasada: Also, I think proof of stake is interesting in theory
JorgePasada: Anyone from here going to the thing in Amsterdam?
mircea_popescu: lol tepescoin
mircea_popescu: fluffypony explain the idea to me.
fluffypony: asciilifeform: proof of stake...they haven't gotten the implementation anywhere close to useful, but I think the idea is interesting
ThickAsThieves: i ended up ditching the peers too
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Did you receive the latest trading statement?
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves wait, you dumped the girl because she took it in the ass ?! dude you're wrapped up too tight. /// lol it was obv much more complicated than that, i was a teenager!