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BingoBoingo: That I typed it.
BingoBoingo: I guess I can see concern even with that nao
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: By online I mean plugged into the internet. Not typed into a webapp.
mike_c: i was trolling tat before for his footnotes > paragraphs post
mircea_popescu: mike_c is that bad ?
BingoBoingo: At least GPG encryption is perfectly safe to do online.
BingoBoingo: Decrypting and signing are fine though.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Not that I can get to reproduce this stuff reliably. ATM I can't encrypt with Geany. I swear I used to be able to.
kakobrekla: got a manul to the coaxing perhaps?
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: It sucks at encryption without some coaxing. It signs and decrypts fine though. Great for offline machines.
akstunt600: haave been using melt or diff depending on how mig the src trees are, any other recommendations
gribble: Signature Thursday: Geany a GUI text editor for GPG tasks | Bingo ...: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/31/signature-thursday-geany-a-gui-text-editor-for-gpg-tasks/>; PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgpgpg-guide/>; October | 2013 | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/>
BingoBoingo: ;;google geany gpg thedrinkingrecord
akstunt600: hmmm thats interesting
BingoBoingo: akstunt600: Geany, the Text Editor/IDE is great
BingoBoingo: There are better cross platform tools than GPA if you need GPG.
BingoBoingo: No they don't.
akstunt600: after i get this kicked off
akstunt600: and then the keys in the menu slector
akstunt600: yeah like even to decrypt pub key encrypted messages it was awkward, like that main window should have been the spot to drag and drop msgs to encrypt/decrypt
BingoBoingo: akstunt600: Well, the thing is it isn't a deep commandline exercise at all. It's just one where the GUI's hide the good options.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo now on that we agree.
ThickAsThieves: grats on the MPIF kickoff
akstunt600: I have been in terminal all damn day
akstunt600: oh well its just nice to have gui to go off of
akstunt600: So at least i know the orkflow
akstunt600: Well luckily i have used and installed PGP server for an enterprise and used gpg numerous times
BingoBoingo: I prolly should have paused to word more carefully, but really the CLI is the only way I've found to adequately keygen with the right options
mircea_popescu: oh. thing read to me as impossible to use cli to do it.
BingoBoingo: The key must be made on the commandline.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: All of the GUI tools I tried for Key generation suck by restricting options.
BingoBoingo: It is neigh impossible to do good GPG key generation off of the commandline
akstunt600: Hmm it used to work fine for me in windows way back when, but that was last year
akstunt600: need to gen a new key for this coin
asciilifeform: can't say i relish the idea of attention
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I doubt Cardano would get that kind of attention. Loper box might though.
asciilifeform: i confess that i had 'bourbaki' thoughts even when climbing off the plane.
asciilifeform: but we should all be prepared for the kind of treatment mp gets, at the very least.
asciilifeform: this is the kind of thought that makes me wonder, perhaps i'm already in the wood chipper, it just isn't switched on yet.
mircea_popescu: was that what that was ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is still getting the 'are you the gurl' questions. wonder what kind of animal i'll be, in the imagination of audience.
ozbot: F.MPIF, April 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
kakobrekla: but but their logo, its so professional.
kakobrekla: some new faces today eh
Franktank_: Ah, thanks for that.
Franktank_: Actually I have no idea, I do miss the input of MPOE-PR on the Securities subform.
kakobrekla: do you believe that mircea is a chick or a prick wearing lady avatar or ??
kakobrekla: so wait before we get this straight
mircea_popescu: what ban is that ?
Franktank_: Mircea, have they revoked the ban?
csshih: why is it that everyone I've sold btc/hardware to has done all the right things and is now wealthy
mircea_popescu: idem, these f.mpif books ain't gonna cook themselves...
JorgePasada: in the meantime, work needs doing
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: I see, I think I'm blurring the lines and blending two separate discussions together. I'll re-read that post later, think about it and get back to you when i've got a more concise version of what it is I'm trying to say.
mircea_popescu: then you're discussing time.
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: What about how an individual chooses to allocate their time?t
BingoBoingo: And when the time tuns out you probably won't be able to again until someone gives you voice again
mircea_popescu: JorgePasada well there's no economics at the individual level
Franktank_: Ok, was I not able to before?
BingoBoingo: Franktank_: U can talk nao
mike_c: BingoBoingo: ah, thanks. i will digest.
JorgePasada: That's why I like this place though. You know how hard it is to find people to have conversations like this with?
JorgePasada: We're in agreement almost completely. Figuring out the almost is interesting though, and productive. Being wrong is the only way to learn, and if I'm wrong I'd like to know sooner rather than later.
JorgePasada: Yep, and I agree with all of it, especially when applied to the market or any kind of aggregate group. I just think I might have some differing opinions when it comes to the individual level. Trying to think them out and find a better way to articulate what exactly it is I'm thinking.
mircea_popescu: that's the entire point there, to push economy from its current state of shamanism and alchemy to actual science.
mircea_popescu: its niot like the patient "hath brought pox upon himself, for his sins" or anything.
mircea_popescu: medicine, the actual kind, was born once people finally realised intent don't enter into it,
mircea_popescu: the notion that intent is economically relevant is in no way different from proposing it be medically relevant
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: Isn't that kind of divorcing the act from the actor?
mircea_popescu: JorgePasada useful, if you want ot marry them. not economically .
BingoBoingo: jordandotdev: You are talking about management nao.
JorgePasada: The thing people forget is you're always analyzing intent through, at minimum, two very subjective biased filters. 1) Your perspective 2) Their Actions.
JorgePasada: I'd agree with the statement intentions are worthless in general, and always when applied to the aggregate.
BingoBoingo: Well, becoming married to their ideas is part of what makes them idiots
mircea_popescu: circular fucking reasoning at its best. talking to your average schmuck on any topic reduces to doing marriage counselling with idiots, for free.
mircea_popescu: GS: words against him are isolating? what about the words he said?"
mircea_popescu: "BP: discrimination is to say that something is apart from other things. The words and actions against him are isolating, hence discriminatory
JorgePasada: So, then I guess a follow up. Would you say intent has any relevance at all in economics?
mircea_popescu: lol this thing is pretty lulzy.
JorgePasada: and at worst, justification for some terrible shit
JorgePasada: either way the point remains that all the further down the chain you can quantify is the pattern
JorgePasada: That's another way of saying the same thing, or maybe it's the next step down the chain
mircea_popescu: "if being rich doesn’t buy you freedom of speech, you’re rich in the wrong place and at the wrong time." << not bad.
JorgePasada: and he's trying to wrap it up all nice and neat and objectify it into something that can be cold, cool and calculated and make him feel all safe and warm inside
mircea_popescu: more like the preminence of pattern over intent.
JorgePasada: The guy who you're taking the excerpts from seems to miss (or be terrified of the fact) that all the questions he's asking and the points your making come back to one thing
mircea_popescu: "makes little difference to the tree which way the wind blows. all that matters is how strongly" sorta thing
mircea_popescu: i have no investment in your emotional investment. consequently, whether you wish or fear is all the same to me.it's merely the amplitude that interests, not the direction.
JorgePasada: Explain further on that comment
JorgePasada: Amusingly, there’s no difference between these two :)
JorgePasada: It certainly isn’t wishful thinking, it’s rather fearful thinking,
JorgePasada: Following up to here
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: has anyone in here ever floated the idea of bringing the WoT to twitter? << i dun think i'd want that really. but maybe a gpg-based ircitter may be interesting.
ozbot: A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/#comment-99405 << this sense.
JorgePasada: I think I get what you're saying but, clarity is always good
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: is there a firm love for sha256 as an algo? << 512.
mircea_popescu: my current thinking is that any approach to economy that's not agent-agnostic is nonsense.
JorgePasada: Buyers/speculators are essential to market health
mircea_popescu: same thing here, everyone with a keyboard figures he could be picking the music, why not.