asciilifeform: btw possibly i mentioned, but the historic timestamps are all over the place
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'date' thing fixed. did find that clock on the box has drifted by + ~40min (it dun 'ntp'ism or any such.) suppose ought to fix (and get then phf-style odd timestamps) or leave alone ?
asciilifeform: lol do i even want to load that link...
asciilifeform: ( 'natural' reactions of untaught flyer, ~amplify~ spin )
asciilifeform: consider why 'spin' was at one pt considered 100% fatal
asciilifeform: not only inner ear, but just about whole of flight instruction is about beating the 'intuitive' behaviours out of the student.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is interesting in fact to read about the era of flight before 'instruments'. lots and lotsa corpses on acct of 'seat of pants' as sole instrument
asciilifeform: diana_coman: picked it up when wrote phuctor, in 2013, 'on drumskin' in literally a day
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'flask' is the py people's equiv. of 'hunchentoot'. eats the @app.route('/log/<chan>/<date>') etc sugars , does the 'html madlibs' thing on the 'templates' (a la 'cl-who') etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re titanium -- they still sell it. (quasi-monopoly. but -- and common misconception -- it aint because of the sands, at least not directly; but rather because ru has the only seriously developed infrastructure for ti metallurgy )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re upstack , and yer gonna 'luvv' this -- i have the date link thing on operating table right nao, and loox like bug in... 'flask'
asciilifeform: same folx ordered all apollo kit destroyed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, it fell victim to the idjit internal wars b/w diff 'competing' golden toilet houses
asciilifeform: fella wanted to fly personally, got license even. but never afaik saved enuff for plane...
asciilifeform had roommate at uni, who got degree in building jets. but then realized -- no serious work. now astronomer..
asciilifeform: btw the operator manual of sr71 was published in '90s, prolly on the net somewhere to this day, was interesting read
asciilifeform: ( meanwhile in su they quietly built mach5+ machine... )
asciilifeform: iirc it was axed as a 'lisp machine', cost like 100 ordinary jets. and they thought 'world's most golden toilet', the time of f35 , that ate ~three decades~ in promisetronic phase and now flying clothes iron... had not come yet
asciilifeform: whereas the idjit brass cancelled it and ~ordered the tooling destroyed~
asciilifeform: and k. johnson, 'the man who saw air', took it from drawing to flight in iirc <1yr !
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: of pastes and txt links , phf-style, is planned. of general html liquishit, a la arch.is -- not planned, it is serious open problem
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926728 << revisiting this mega-q : i've considered to bake a tmsr ~forth~ (general-purpose, rather than peh) . has the theoretical appeal that it could be bootstrapped 'M'-style, in asm. but could i convince anyone to program in it !
asciilifeform: and (as typically with adacore's 'extras') -- for no clear reason
asciilifeform: it's quite obese, btw, for those who haven't seen
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is difficult, tho perhaps not impossible, to picture someone who never heard of.. satellite
asciilifeform: not long ago asciilifeform went to bazar, and there were folx selling coffee. but instead of the usual signage saying what is name of the co, and from where coffee, there was... qr code. 'hey dontcha get it, aim pnoje camera here and will see little film clip of our spokesman..'
asciilifeform: i fully expect that reich will at some pt give up on maintaining street signage, and try to push ~this~ as 'replacement'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, 1 of the more recent idjit fads in pnojeism etc is just this, 'augmented reality', where user is to try an' look at e.g. shops, roads, through peephole of pnoje, to see imaginary 'signs' imposed on the picture
asciilifeform: bvt: i think i read it in an earlier, ro piece. that grr cannot just nao find.
asciilifeform: ( 'magic' tends to end up in vehehery short supply, in wartime )
asciilifeform: ru army philosophy (inherited from sovok) holds that 'magic' is poison.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had this vintage piece, re 'technology vs magic' . where the former is something you can meaningfully take apart and repair, making new piece with lathe if you must; whereas the latter... can only pray
asciilifeform: telex & friends have substantial wins over 'modern' -- broken telex can be repaired by sweaty d00d with screwdriver, and out of improvised parts. whereas what's it even mean to 'repair' e.g. pc, esp. in condition where the parts not even made outside of taiwan.
asciilifeform once saw a rare photoreportage of ru army hq and on what gear runs. 100% telex, made in ddr. )
asciilifeform: ( an' when output is to be made hardcopy anyway, to give to elderly general, why not telex, even ! )
asciilifeform: problem isn't 'no way to expose', they're perfectly exposed, e.g. 'M' uses 100% raw syscalls for all i/o . problem is the fundamentally ill-conceived abstraction, where you don't ~only~ have the stream, but also a barely-known and large set of possible out-of-band eggog conditions
asciilifeform: my 'udp' lib was orig. gonna be a 'udp and tcp' lib. but very quickly realized...
asciilifeform: ( what does a 0-length read mean in re a stream ? )
asciilifeform: could try to use ada's 'streams' model. but then must decide, how to represent ~all~ of the possible tcp hiccups.
asciilifeform: aand that's just pg. now consider how to deal with tcp.
asciilifeform: sorta what i suggested to spyked at one pt
asciilifeform: nao, a general-purpose strings-and-streams-munging script lang ~might~ be worth implementing in ada.
asciilifeform: i suspect the glue for pg alone (i.e. if pg disgorges eggog, to produce proper ada-compat. exception, rather than crash), not to mention utf8ism, would weigh like ten ffa's
asciilifeform: ftr 95% of asciilifeform's sweat to make snsabot + logotron , went into debugging regexpolade.
asciilifeform: re general topic of 'string munging problems' -- they are plentiful and prolly inescapable, and i suspect there could be win from reviving an item like snobol (where ~sane~ abstractions specifically for stringism, rather than seas of regexp)
asciilifeform: it is doable, and e.g. bolix's device driver coad was written that way. but is deep magic.
asciilifeform: this is the 'flip side of the medal' -- sometimes the given abstractions are not a good fit for $problem. picture e.g. attempt to ffa in commonlisp, where you'd have to bend over backwards to make sure you ~never~ cons
asciilifeform: nao if you throw out pg and sqlism, and make mmap-based db from 0... then possibly. but again goes back to '80% reimplementation of commonlisp' territory.
asciilifeform: but i strongly suspect that 'ada logtron' will consist mostly of non-humanreadable hex constants , and the pg glue will be eating null-termed c strings , and generally the result will not be a thing you 'would fly in it? i wouldn't walk under it!'(tm)(r)(h. hughes)
asciilifeform: damn near anyffin 'can be done'. full sized eiffel's tower from toothpicks, ~could~ be built.
