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moiety: there was a right mess with
those
tox devs
dexX7: okay, not
this hehe
dexX7: some could call
this improvement
fluffypony: every
time a coin dev disappears
then someone picks up
the reigns and "relaunches" it
moiety: drama on
teh interwebz? never!
dexX7: yea,
there is probably
too much
fluffypony: dexX7: I gave up following
the altcoin drama
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fluffypony: kakobrekla: so
they're going
to lend legitimacy
to all
the scammy DACs
kakobrekla: >>I do not know NXT, but I am interested in finding (and even potentially investing in) efforts
to create a peer-to-peer capital market. In fact, if a good solution emerges, you might even see Overstock be
the first issuer of a stock or bond in such a market, just
to help
things get going! (Incidentally, we were
the first
to do a Dutch auction IPO, for precisely
that reason.)
fluffypony: "Bitcoin is a mad,
technoutopian fever dream
that will end in
tears, if it hasn't already."
benkay: it's a pretty high
touch approach, which is why i'd expect
to be able
to carve out a niche in
the space
fluffypony: yeah,
that's precisely what
TagPesa is has done with
the South Sudanese expats living in Australia
benkay: expand
the network from
there.
benkay: one person in each of
two cities doing
the changing
benkay: but start small, none of
this raise capital and scale crap
benkay: go somewhere with a serious expat community in
the habit of sending money home, make friends in
that group, figure out what it's costing
to get money where
they need it moved, and
then move it with btc.
benkay: gotta be quick 'cause i'm on my way
to a walk
benkay: i'd
take an entirely different
tack
benkay: just because someone's doing it doesn't mean
to not do it.
fluffypony: benkay:
TagPesa seem
to have
that in
the bag...just a pity about
their involvement with Seedcoin II:
The Wrath of Seedz
benkay: i want
to get some skin into
the remittance game, but haven't figured out how
to.
fluffypony: I'm not suggesting
that microlending
to Malawians is ultra-profitable (or at all)
benkay: remittances,
though...
benkay: fluffypony:
the real issue is
that microloans have a pretty bad return, what with having
to chase anonymous poverty-ensnared people all over
their shithole country/favela
bounce: do you have any reason
to assume microlending
to faraway countries will go any better
than loaning on irc or whatwasthatsiteagain?
fluffypony: dignork: yep, I
think I'm
talking purely about using BTC as a way of getting around
the cross-border issues
dignork: fluffypony: micro-lending shop will face
the same problem with BTC funding -
they have
to go short on BTC since
they provide loans in fiat
fluffypony: that also means
that lenders don't need
to know much more
than how
to get money on
to BitStamp and
then withdraw
the BTC
to
their [insert loan site here] account
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: ok but let's focus on
the lending space - at
the moment
there is already a
thriving p2p micro-lending market in some countries, mostly unregulated.
The problem is
that
the cost of
transacting makes it impossible for people outside of
that country
to get involved.
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: i'd argue
that it's
too big of a pain
to use for a long position
to not be a pre-req
benkay: "i'm just providing a vehicle for people
to go short btc!"
benkay: fluffypony: you're starting
to sound a lot like
the20year
kakobrekla: how are you going
to fix
this with implementation
kakobrekla: most of
the loans
that are
taken get converted into fiat, meaning autofucked
fluffypony: kakobrekla: BTC can be used purely as
the medium of exchange, pegged
to
the local exchange rate, if
the lenders aren't long on Bitcoin
bitcoinpete: kakobrekla:
that's part of
their implementation, neh?
kakobrekla: its not implementation, its
the bitcoin appreciation and volatility
that makes
this doa
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: implementation requires more formality and skill
than btcjam and others imagine
fluffypony: BTCJam have good ideas,
they just have no clue how
to bring it
to fruition
chetty: Suggests Full Employment Could Be Reached In Six Months ---hmm does
that count all
those
that have quit looking?
bitcoinpete: the bear lobby is not one
to be messed with
bitcoinpete: they used
to have an nba basketball
team called
the grizzlies
bitcoinpete: people
think
that we should cater everything
to some imaginary poor person who might be offended. c'mon now
bitcoinpete: they read
the rags or
they watch
tv or facebook
bitcoinpete: except no one with savings reads
the fucking financial post article on retirement
bitcoinpete: my buddy
thinks
that
this is "so out of
touch because if I am reading
this, with no savings, I wonder what
the entire point is. it should at least add a context."
bitcoinpete: which i
think is fair given inflation and a few decades of
travel, etc
bitcoinpete: this week's couple has saved $2.7M and
the post decided
that
this was only 2/5 stars of readiness
bitcoinpete: So
the financial post, out of
toronto, has a weekly feature on an older couple and
their preparedness for retirement
bitcoinpete: conversations, news,
this channel has it all
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller:
this is exactly
the point
ozbot: Blockchain CEO Nicolas Cary
talks with Roya Mahboob and Fereshteh Forough of Women's Annex on how Bi
bitcoinpete: Nic Cary ,
the CEO of Blockchain.info, interviews Fereshteh Forough and Roya Mahboob about
the Women's Annex Foundation initiative which helps and supports women
through education and
technology, starting from Afghanistan.
The content providers on
the Women's Annex platform are getting paid with
the Digital Currency Bitcoin which allow
them
to finance
their expenses and costs easily without facing problems with
the banking system an
BingoBoingo: ;;later
tell Micon
The practical reason
to register with Gribble and
the WoT at
the moment is
to get self voicing privileges passed
to you.
thestringpuller: can we just exile
these n00bs
to an island and do battle royale?
bitcoinpete: "Contract outcomes are determined in a
trustless and decentralized way,
through a weighted vote based on present and past consensus with a unique Nash Equilibrium where all voters report accurately on
the state of markets."
bitcoinpete: "The end result is
the first of its kind: a market for actual prediction-commodities, which have a value based on
their accuracy and not based on
the behaviour of any administrator, rival
trader, or counterparty."
bitcoinpete: "Truthcoin is my ambitious project
to create a
trustless P2P prediction-marketplace.
This is possible because, unlike most marketplaces,
the end product of a prediction market (PM) is information."
bitcoinpete: cgcardona: slightly more frightening, slightly less
tongue-in-cheek
cgcardona: well
the old one had such a good message w/
the monopoly money
danielpbarron: i liked
the old one, but it wasn't
the most aesthetically pleasing design
cgcardona: yea people seem
to be down on him but I've not met him before.
cgcardona: danielpbarron: why? you
think its vaporware?
bitcoinpete: cgcardona: decent enough idea, if
taint were a problem
cgcardona: i've been watching a bunch of cody wilson interviews over
the last couple of days and it's an interesting idea
danielpbarron: cgcardona: i
think i wasted $25 on its kickstarter :/
ozbot: Hurting
The Poor, By Helping
Them | When Bitcoin Met Pete
cgcardona: What do you guys/gals
think of darkwallet ?
danielpbarron: i'm not sure yet; it could be
the good money
that
the beast
tries
to suppress with his mark
danielpbarron: if Bitcoin gets
to
the point where I can't spend it unless I have a mark on my hand or forehead,
that's when I divest from Bitcoin and start street preaching
thestringpuller: I would expect SuperUsers
to have a mobile brothel for "socializing"
cgcardona: moiety: done (secret
TCP handshake added)
moiety: hell why not get a secret handshake in
there
too
cgcardona: thestringpuller: yes and no -
there are online documentation of 'secret societies' which meet up yearly in
the same place. but yea
they aren't really secret. Real secret societies probably do meet up in different places each
time