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mircea_popescu: benkay: just because someone's doing it doesn't mean to not do it. <<< it does. except it has to be someone, and it that case it wasn't someone, just no-one.
mircea_popescu: the reason the microlending works, in shitholecreek, detroit or bungagunga, kneya is that the lender also holds political power
mircea_popescu: fluffypony " The problem is that the cost of transacting makes it impossible for people outside of that country to get involved." << that's in no way the poroblem. i wouldn't micrlodend in fucklandia under any circumstances.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: this week's couple has saved $2.7M and the post decided that this was only 2/5 stars of readiness << this is fucking nonsense, srsly.
kakobrekla: the quote still made it to the queue
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla should totally marry roya mahboob
mircea_popescu: this is almost better than mr beaglehole.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: "The end result is the first of its kind: << these fucktards. they really imagine that if you put a "delicious" label on canned shit it'll be a delicious can of shit.
mircea_popescu: guy's site is linked in there. marius lupu.
ozbot: Iepurasule, ai basca ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you will be the first to try these cookies. r&d is refining the recipe
mircea_popescu: and the guy who did the drawing... one second
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/jgqxkW8.jpg << why is that guy shown twice, once dressed in wallpaper ?
mircea_popescu: because thus you can raid
mircea_popescu: you'll be happy if i sell her to a dozen other dudes, too,
mircea_popescu: come let me sell you your wife's time.
ThickAsThieves: but i'll only stay of there's a context of humans to share the experience
ThickAsThieves: when it comes to multiplayer, i find access to people to play with being very high on my list
mircea_popescu: worked ok ion the late 90s early 00s
pankkake: yeah, that made me lol. I always thought the game was free, and you had to subscribe
mircea_popescu: pankkake blizzard notably tried to do both
pankkake: more to the point, the selling point of an online game is usually world access, not binary client access
mircea_popescu: i dun think it was ever more than a few dozen people on
fluffypony: but yeah, they have a strong followin
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: look, it's been around for 12 years, so part of the PS community is historical
ThickAsThieves: do people play Planeshift tho? more importantly who makes money around it?
KLYE: Thank you for the advice Cazalla. :D
mircea_popescu: pankkake so you hate altcoins or just the altcoin makers ?
pankkake: but it doesn't mean you have to altcoin it
ThickAsThieves: but ultimately people want the real deal
mircea_popescu: i thot he hated altcoins
BingoBoingo: pankkake: You mean like what altcoins are. People dicking around on their own chains?
mircea_popescu: pankkake but if everyone does then... everyone has to be alone neh
pankkake: I mean run a competing universe, the point wasn't being alone
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well yeah but i think he meant besides that
mircea_popescu: cazalla but let the guy run his onw thing lol
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I guess PlaneShift is about the biggest
mircea_popescu: pankkake omg you put the k in otaku
cazalla: KLYE: if i wanted to get into porn, i'd skip cams and produce content along the lines of insex, clearly a demand but payment processor issues fucked it, no issues there with bitcoin
pankkake: unless anyone can run its own server/world, the game isn't really open source
ThickAsThieves: as in, they dont get financed because they dont make money
ThickAsThieves: indeed, but doesn the chicken come before the egg in that regard?
BingoBoingo: Bitcoin is totally open source and a game.
mircea_popescu: open source can't traditionalyl afford to pay financier fat cats to look at the stuff
ThickAsThieves: are there any open-sourced games with profitable thriving economies?
fluffypony: because pretend-compliance didn't stop anyone from losing money to Neo&Scamee
fluffypony: KLYE: I'm South African, so I can't comment on Canadian regulation, but I think it's important to make those points clear in your reply to FastLoans4You
KLYE: I'll piggyback on them until my serverside and web clients are done.. After that the plan is to smash them. :D
KLYE: MFC is going to be obsolete once klyemax launches
ThickAsThieves: well i would love to be wrong
KLYE: And by that time we will have proven the studio profitable and have solid revenue streams.
ThickAsThieves: and that you have control over how much profit you share
ThickAsThieves: my point was the balls are gonna get pumped
KLYE: BTC isn't considered currency in Canada as far as I know, It's considered a grey area. And until phase two when the Klyemax IPO hits an exchange I do not think we have to worry about the MSC.
mircea_popescu: so thgen we';re talking at cross purpoise.
ThickAsThieves: but that wasntg my point
mircea_popescu: anyway, my entire point is that your "well you could squeeze the balls harder, get more $$$" is not actyually a valid argument.
KLYE: Did my last message go through
ThickAsThieves: but what is it then
mircea_popescu: the blizzard bleed the suckers model is meh.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to come back to some track. i don't believe in forcing people to pay, my idea of peddling games is not modeled on peddling heroin.
ThickAsThieves: though i suspect this last one was the peak
ThickAsThieves: all totally closed
ThickAsThieves: i mean what, we have WoW and Final Fantasy, maybe GTA, as long term successes
ThickAsThieves: people have tastes abnd like to migrate around
mircea_popescu: see, the less control a thing attempts to project, the more difficult to kill it gets.
ThickAsThieves: a transcendant game is not something i have much confidence in
Duffer1: fluffypony i agree, i used "BB" instead of bingoboingo to respond to him, i should have said: Bingoboingo, i believe Loans is Minerpart
mircea_popescu: now that i doubt.
ThickAsThieves: some hacks try, but mostly fall flat
fluffypony: I don't think BingoBoingo is minerpart, BingoBoingo is too rational
mircea_popescu: so it thinks
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this sort of control is illusory.
ThickAsThieves: it's possibly bad in that this is a situation you could control if you chose to
ThickAsThieves: so while this may be good as an excercise in competition,
ThickAsThieves: well i can make TATlora.io and get my own designers and pay them a better cut than you
fluffypony: we just have to make the prospectus available
fluffypony: but there's no requirement to register it
fluffypony: what's really funny is in South Africa we also have to have a prospectus if we want to make shares publicly available
mircea_popescu: it's bitcoin, there's no regulation.
ThickAsThieves: the whole dedicated community of players to consume designs thing
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: the regulations were wrt the IPO
mircea_popescu: fluffypony you gotta comply with some regulations to camwhore now !?
ThickAsThieves: however, this is a business, so i'm trying to sort it out
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: sure, so I think him putting a picture up of KLYE and bringing up the homeless/begging thing is ridiculous, but I think it's worth his while speaking to the regulatory issue raised - you're either claiming compliance or you're outrightly stating defiance
ThickAsThieves: well you lose all walls for your garden and throw it into the middle of the highway
mircea_popescu: prolly someone will figure it out first, then write a guide,
ThickAsThieves: this is not a problem you think?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i imagine you should be able to. it may be complicated but i don't think so. it's defionitely not deliberately obfuscated.
ThickAsThieves: if client is open source, then i could just hack in my own HUDs and music? or is it to be compiled in such a way to make that impractical for most?
fluffypony: KLYE: meh, ignore the trolls. WRT "FastLoans4You" I think you need to make it clear that you haven't claimed to meet regulatory compliance with Canadian law.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i don't see why niot. the client is open source anyway.
mircea_popescu: why stop there.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is a fucking game currency trying to spill over into irl.
ThickAsThieves: so u can customize my hero, why not town music, HUD, mayve even environments
ThickAsThieves: well that got me thinking,
mircea_popescu: the whole thing.
ThickAsThieves: and thus a more segmented relationship with designers as businesses
ThickAsThieves: do you intend to have "hats" for sale?
mircea_popescu: eh fuck the log readers, what do we care.