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mircea_popescu: that's a for instance. i know enough about the guy to tell you that if you're using the wot you're implicitly trusting him.
gribble: You rated user nanotube on Wed Aug 3 15:08:50 2011, with a rating of 10, and supplied these additional notes: owner of otc and all around reasonable guy.
wywialm: mircea_popescu, is the rating of 10 appropriate to reflect the fact that I operate numerisTrade account? Or should I set the rating to 1 not to prop up "total trust" (I'm aware that total trust should not be taken into account heavily, but still..)
mircea_popescu: it sounds great but you want to have it looked at by multiple pairs of eyes.
Naphex: i will prolly document it after i have a full working example, prolly with some client front end to demo it
Naphex: could throw that all in cold wallets and just do realtime processing
Naphex: then it can just derive xN payments for that specific user while reusing addresses each time
Naphex: you could encode pub key to specifiy user_id on a deposit system
Naphex: mircea_popescu: regarding DNS2address resolve for bitcoin, i am setting up an updated example that includes support for BIP32 xpub keys for address derivation
random_cat_: are there any search engines that work any more? :|
atcbot: [ATC Last Block] Height: 30648 Time: 2014-05-05T08:30:22Z Vout Sum: 512 Number TXs: 1 Difficulty: 455357.12903751 Hash: 00000000000005602eb8602ae9b1dd97624573f1a7d520feb684a95219cd4da1 Fee: 0.00000000 Size: 204 Days Destroyed: 0 Confirmations: 1
wywialm: ofc, i just had to authenticate
atcbot: [ATC Mined] Current: 15691264 Total ATC (to be mined): 268435456 % Mined of Total: 5.85
mircea_popescu: wywialm hey. you know how to up yourself yet ?
assbot: Voicing tank100 for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !up tank100
mircea_popescu: also in the news, what men are and how they work : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bm0Rwc9CcAEsUfy.jpg:large
mircea_popescu: magistrate judges. they aren't judges in any sense, but they think they may opine on matters.
mircea_popescu: check that shit out
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: it's not ready for prime timez yet
mircea_popescu: televisions are more than 100% cheaper nao, don't you know.
Naphex: mircea_popescu: try this https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ropQbwlg0-8J:eprint.iacr.org/2014/257.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ro
mircea_popescu: i wish i recalled the url of fluffypony's pdf crusher
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl i disagree btw. while i'm pretty sure quantum computing is the exact equivalent of perpetuum mobile, only we don't have the three rules of quantum compudynamics yet, cold fusion may or may not be in the same situation. maybe we discover something about lasers that makes containment work, who knows.
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "peterl" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
mircea_popescu: ;;later peterl i disagree btw. while i'm pretty sure quantum computing is the exact equivalent of perpetuum mobile, only we don't have the three rules of quantum compudynamics yet, cold fusion may or may not be in the same situation. maybe we discover something about lasers that makes containment work, who knows.
mircea_popescu: i imagine sooner or later you'll figure things out.
Naphex: danielpbarron: to clarify, when you do ECDSA signatures you do need 1 random integer (required to be different) called K, but even in most bitcoin implementation it is generated deterministcally d
mircea_popescu: myeah. since 2012, the exact sort of nonsense has been field by the exact sort of people involved in pmbs.
bawse: so im ok with this. others are not ok.
bawse: im just saying if my 1583gh cointerra only makes 32 or .09 in this market, i can make $60 with .09
bawse: im only selling hashing power through cex in the hopes of selling 1gh for the price of 2, hoping the person signs up under my link so i can make 3% of what he buys in the future. and also initially buy 1gh with the extra $3.31 i charged. Plus PMB's are tales of people who do not know how to cash out BTC at $165 more than they are worth like I do.
jurov: ;;rate PsychoticBoy 1 one of the first coinbr users
mircea_popescu: either that or ends up with some guy investing :D
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask PsychoticBoy!sid27029@pdpc/supporter/active/psychoticboy. Trust relationship from user assbot to user PsychoticBoy: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=PsychoticBoy | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=PsychoticBoy | Rated since: Tue May 1 14:39:15 2012
dub: mine tells the same tale
ozbot: The problem with PMBs, ie “Perpetual Mining Bonds” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
dub: you just invent the PMB
bawse: ie, the newbies
danielpbarron: don't you also need cryptographically secure RNG to do the signing?
danielpbarron: i get that part
Naphex: the point is, you can get the smart card to just sign transactions
Naphex: if you want you can do SmartOS auth before writeing a key, or just burn it down to read only
Naphex: danielpbarron: you realize you can lock the card down in lots of ways after
danielpbarron: if the infected computer can just write to the card
danielpbarron: then how is that secure?
Naphex: you can if you want use the rng to generate a priv key, but you can just as well upload one
Naphex: danielpbarron: nah the card can sign the transactions
danielpbarron: i assumed that a built-in RNG on the card meant that the key was generated on the card
Naphex: danielpbarron: if i'm bored i'd roll the dice and upload it on the card using a clean linux/busybox boot ;]
danielpbarron: Naphex: how are you generating the private key?
random_cat_: anyone know the software (i think meteor based) developed at MIT (i think, maybe at cambridge) which allows for data protection against a hostile server operator?
Naphex: anyway regarding smart cards and rng, for bitcoin is not that much worry-some cause you can just store your private key on it and use that to sign the transactions
danielpbarron: is hash-selling still a scam, or did someone figure out a way to make that a legit business?
bawse: Thats nice of you, I really wish you the best and was touched when you accepted my apology.
danielpbarron: do you mean the individuals who should just stay in FIAT?
Naphex: normal people, who want to use bitcoin
Naphex: still wouldn't store 10000000 bitcoins on it, but its pretty safe and secure for the regulars
Naphex: desfire3 / rfid cards are a bit more secure imho, but there you go
danielpbarron: considering the amount of work going into cardano
danielpbarron: i didn't realize it has a random number generator built in; I find it hard to believe it's cryptographically secure
danielpbarron: i recently got one of the openPGP smart cards
artifexd: mircea_popescu: The look the same to me. WRT http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2014#660093 ☝︎
artifexd: kakobrekla: What is this? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-05-2014#659679 ☝︎
ThickAsThieves: "Prosper has originated more than $1 billion in unsecured personal loans. “We will hit our second billion this year,” Mr. Vermut said."
ThickAsThieves: kinda weird they are now getting two funding deals
ThickAsThieves: "The investment –seven months after a $25-million infusion by Sequoia Capital, BlackRock and other investors—underscores a growing appetite to fuel a fledgling but fast-growing disintermediation of conventional banking."
ozbot: Peer-to-Peer Lender Prosper Marketplace to Get $70 Million in Funding - MoneyBeat - WSJ
benkay: get 'em while they're cheap frrreal
mike_c: ooh, i see the once a month s.mpoe sale is in effect
mike_c: or wait a few days and I'll have a script that you can include in the page that will link it to the bet it is displaying with your ref address.
mike_c: link it with your ref to the homepage
mike_c: ping ThickAsThieves
mircea_popescu: nevermind that :p
mircea_popescu: we're talking some heavy 1125 shit here.
mircea_popescu: well exactly. "pars imperii", and the white rose.
mircea_popescu: not to do with skin color, but with this 1500s political divide.
asciilifeform: w'ts that
mircea_popescu: i also picked up "nrx" today ☟︎
asciilifeform: popular name for the folks who go full throttle with ms rand
mircea_popescu: i keep learning all these wonderful things.
asciilifeform: punishment for poor people << aye! drive on 'beltway', watch the prison wagens (colourful logo) and their crews, picking up rubbish.
mircea_popescu: "I use "sign" in the widest sense of the definition. It is a wonderful case of an almost popular use of a very broad word in almost the exact sense of the scientific definition." << this may actuallty be the only case where popular use actually coincides with scientific use.
mircea_popescu: let teh community service me instead.
asciilifeform: (what did i do? well, i worked summers in a bio lab. technically unpaid. so, i was golden.)
mircea_popescu: you've gotten nustso socialist over there btw. i mean wtf is this, community service ? i wouldn't have graduated.
asciilifeform: one option, riotously funny, was advertised on library wall. 'society against involuntary servitude' (an org run by 'randroids') that... campaigned against community serv. requirements.
mircea_popescu: isn't that a substitute punishment for poor people that can't pay fines ?
asciilifeform: 'superservitude' evokes a story. over here in usa, schoolchildren (in many states, mine included) were required to do x hours of 'community service' to graduate
mircea_popescu: i *think* it's based off some comment of mine from x years ago that being an admin is being a superservant not a superuser.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves' twitter acct.
cazalla: benkay: we have public safety warnings here in australia to warn people not to sleep on the road
benkay: nobody can move fast enough to save the retarded and drug addled from theyselves.
mircea_popescu: ok that was pretty good.
mircea_popescu: Still en route, police received a third call reporting that the man had been struck by a vehicle.
mircea_popescu: While police were on their way to the scene, they received a call stating that the naked man was now doing pushups in the street.
mircea_popescu: Portland police first received a call at 4:04 a.m. reporting a naked man was running through traffic near Columbia and Portsmouth Ave.
benkay: someone got run over in this town because they were doing pushups in the middle of the street at 4 am.
bounce: then again, it'd mean campaigning. I'm not that fond of lying through my teeth.
bounce now regrets not cozying up to the local parties to get on the would be lucky free money lists