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BingoBoingo: artifexd: The reusing addresses thing?
decimation: yeah, me too
mircea_popescu: and that's all for me. catch you tomorrow.
decimation: My first thought is to rue those insights that would have been lost because some peasant wasn't in the right WoT. Then I remember the concern most nobles demonstrated by searching for talent within their own fields.
mircea_popescu: as we'd be the only ones able to read and write anyway
mircea_popescu: well, for one thing we wouldn't need +m here
decimation: mircea_popescu: i'm not even reactionary, myself, i've not gotten so far. some visiting french politics professor called me "white" << Sometimes I wonder what the world would be like today if Marx had perished while affixed to the wall of some landgrave's dungeon.
mircea_popescu: jurov ^ there, speshal for you.
ozbot: Why exactly reusing Bitcoin addresses strengthens Bitcoin user anonimity pe Trilema - Un blog de Mir
ozbot: A reporter, a reddit founder, a lawyer, and an ex-NSA chief walk into a debate | Ars Technica
mod6: hey! something that worked right!
atcbot: [ATC Balance] Address: 1Cunts Balance: 0 Total Received: 0 Number TXs: 0
mod6: ok, i ripped that part out. will be less confusing without that in there.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 lulzy, all the ifs i nthat thread.
mircea_popescu: "Guest95361: I can say with 100% certainty that they have them" lmao do these fuckwits even comprehend how this bitcoin thing works ?
mod6: thought it would filter out what doesn't have 2 conf's to that addr.
BingoBoingo: Mainstream us healthcare is the suck
mod6: oh huh, i'm adding on this "?confirmations=2" part to the end of the req.
BingoBoingo: I remember the good old days of the student health clinic where the meeting with the doctor was merely a formality.
mircea_popescu: The worst part is the prescribe the exact same thing I would have prescribed myself if I could just go to the pharmacy with a shopping list like an actual human being at a store << this is how i shop for medicine.
mircea_popescu: Naphex: and its unlikely for ssh to have /etc/shadow in memory << maybe in some weird case it could have it in child memory, which is the claim.
mod6: huh that's weird.
atcbot: [ATC Balance] Address: 1Cunts Balance: 0 Total Received: 0 Number TXs: 0 Confirmations: 2
mircea_popescu: Naphex: cloudflare makes little sense to me << or to anyone whose brain works enough to power a goat.
mircea_popescu: " In the last few months, Mt.Gox collapsed, bitcoin has lost half of its value. "
mircea_popescu: in the words of this romanian rap band, "Am vazut cu ochii mei tovarasi cum se duc de rapa... bagat in vena, ma bucur ca am fost pe scena. Rand pe rand scandaluri, multi din ei s-au dus..."
mike_c: yeah, i've read those. i just find a tough stock as a potential investor.
ozbot: Why S.MPOE is worth more than MtGox pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: back then we were wtfing at "which would put S.MPOE somewhere around 8 million dollars, which would be excessive."
asciilifeform: but this is a secret from no one.
asciilifeform: much of the american financial apparatus is designed to paper over this fact
mircea_popescu: just, the dollar lost 90% of its value over 2 months
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda my point. i don't really think btc went up in price 10x, or mpex foe that matter.
asciilifeform: despite the fact that a great many people technically are.
asciilifeform: much as no one is excited to see themselves as a zimbabwe dollar billionaire
asciilifeform: when that time comes, one ought to expect a lack of interest in how many $b something is worth
mircea_popescu: but this seems hardly a discussion of value and worth.
mircea_popescu: i guess sure, if btc ends up 1 mn dollarts then mpex will be worth w/e, many trillions
mircea_popescu: i don't think your typical mpex holder has any interest in the bitcoin price of tyhe various fiats.
mike_c: and it hasn't seemed to do so in previous bumps.
mike_c: then it'll have to tank pretty hard given the btc appreciation that's going to happen
mircea_popescu: not that i didn;'t say roughly the same about 100s of millions a year ago, but still.
mircea_popescu: mike_c "and a company that will probably be worth billions this time next year." well look, i like myself just as much as the next guy, but srsly, billions ? seems improbable.
asciilifeform: much like a high vacuum system, familiar to physics students, tends to start with a mechanical pump, then turns on ion-diffusion or other high vacuum source.
mircea_popescu: bounce: can someone please put the usg out of our misery? << oooonly yoooouuuu
mircea_popescu: "Here at Rockwell Automation's world headquarters, research has been proceeding to develop a line of automation products that establishes new standards for quality, technological leadership, and operating excellence. With customer success as our primary focus, work has been proceeding on the crudely conceived idea of an instrument that would not only provide inverse reactive current for use in unilateral phase detracto
asciilifeform: ''Let's see, I'm wealthy and respected. What's missing? 'I know!' he shouts, slapping his forehead so hard he loses consciousness, 'I'll launch A Ponzi scheme. That way every day will tingle with the excitement of wondering whether my world will collapse in ruins and I'll be dragged off to prison while simultaneously being reviled by the whole world.''
asciilifeform: (from the infamous prof. dutch)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah this seems vaguely familiar.
asciilifeform: then sold foreign stocks, then moved into ponzimatics.
mircea_popescu: "have become an up and coming" da fuck is that word salad.
mircea_popescu: "The Forex Exchange market has become an up and coming method of financial trading. As an innovator and initiator in the online foreign exchange business, Rockwell Partners S.A. is a mover and a shaker and on the forefront of the online trading market."
asciilifeform: (phunphact. first tv ad i ever saw was for the mmm parent company)
mircea_popescu: dude the fucking crown. this reminds me of the golden age of Bs, where all the shitty studios had names like MONARCH
mircea_popescu: mike_c: i don't even see how you can ponzi at 50% a month. that is insane. << actually romanian ponzi thing did 800% in 3 months. it paid out for a year and a half.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: americans tend to have 'sore spot' about languages.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well this one was used.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: (i'm secretly hoping i'm not the worst in the channel at languages) << he's just speaking a secret italian nobody else knows about.
asciilifeform: did the crapartist have no awareness of what serious 0days typically go for?
asciilifeform: 20 btc. cost of a well-worn toyota.
mircea_popescu: pankkake: I guess that's the value of drama << asciilifeform check this out. the derpy openssh vulnerability ppl wanted 20 btc. the neobeeq drama was 80 btc.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: well, didn't you hear? mp is extradited to antartica to face AEC security fraud charges. << no dude, i just had an argument with a bottle of wine and some lazagna.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, in the end, interesting case study in nonsense. it's piled up quite exquisitely high.
ozbot: PayPal Exec Goes on Twitter Spree Insulting Coworkers
asciilifeform: it is quite impossible to sell a vuln this way. other than to suckers, of course.
asciilifeform: you can't test-drive an exploit, without possessing it.
mircea_popescu: at least they had the decency to sort the coins in the relative order of probability of someone falling for it.
asciilifeform: let's imagine it were worded differently. the fundamental problem of proof still applies.
mircea_popescu: tries to sell it as if it were, irrelevant what wordage they use.
mircea_popescu: but it WOULDN'T be woirthless today, which means, the proposed situation is unfactual.
asciilifeform: notice that the advertisement does not label the product as '0day'
mircea_popescu: so practically, you'll catch the 100th team or so.
mircea_popescu: the average time for you to catch a 2nd team using your exploit would be, a decade to a century. and this only if they're clueless enough to go after random boxes.
mircea_popescu: suppose you run 1k boxes as honeypots distributed all over the web.
mircea_popescu: suppose at t1 you find this exploit.
asciilifeform: no team needed, just 1 fellow with free time.
asciilifeform: this part is not outlandish. it is indeed possible to capture exploits this way.
mircea_popescu: so a team advanced enough to have had a leet 0day for two years and enough honeypots to catch a 2nd team in time
asciilifeform: vulns are generally sold via trusted brokers, in ceremonies that put japanese tea ritual to shame.
mircea_popescu: "We don't have access to exploit black markets and we are now happy to offering"
asciilifeform: there is no way for a buyer to determine that product is genuine prior to payment
mircea_popescu: there's what, roughly 1 bn machines on the net ?
asciilifeform: because of 'lemon problem' (perhaps not the right term of art, but i can't think of the right one)
mircea_popescu: "(Yes, we build honeypots rules for our exploits)" this seems weak. imagine the odds someone using it actually fell on a honeypot they ran.
asciilifeform: re: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gjkivAf3 - if this were genuine, author would never offer it for public sale.
mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu @Mircea_Popescu @acav Being privileged is being the good guy. If the other guy weren't a lazy fuckwit, he'd be privileged too.
mircea_popescu: Alexandra Cavoulacos @acav Read this: "Acknowledging privilege is hard [...] It's easier to feel the victim than it is to feel like the bad guy."http://groupthink.jezebel.com/blabla
thestringpuller: need to stop this shit
mircea_popescu: twitterers threaten the world with shutting the fuck up
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me the twitter superlative is "this left me speechless". sorta like bad kids threatening the world with going upstairs and cleanning out their room,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: small summary: http://cryptome.org/nsa-tempest.htm << dja figure they'll be buing some cardanos ? :D
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: heh a major investor of Ripple is also one for Pando << you're starting to see why we want pando outcompeted :)
mircea_popescu: much like scammers, which is what they are, the proponents of large welfarist government will simply have to keep trying to come back forevar.
mircea_popescu: not like they'll just give up, roll over and die.
mircea_popescu: davout: it's just in the continuation of debt money, it's not really a competitor to bitcoin in any way << logically, as the statists keep getting beaten out of things, they'll regroup around similar-looking, similar-sounding, different things. again and again and again.
BingoBoingo: Or it waits for other injuries to the barrier
mircea_popescu: yeah. no clue how able it is to cross that barrier.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Usually when they find that microbe they don't find it in the throat, but in the cerebrospinal fluid
mod6: ah that. yeah, i recall.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Maybe. They already have a useful version of that. I'm more refering to their having a working LibreSSL package, their fork from OpenSSL