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JorgePasada: and the worst part is they don't even try to question their own understanding and/or more accurately drill down on meaning
JorgePasada: fluffypony: People throw words around with absolute certainty and complete disregard for actual meaning
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if we inhabit a theoretical topological construct rather than irl.
mircea_popescu: the mystery lemma of -assets is that no matter in what asshole of the world any one assetteer lives, there's at least one that lives within visiting distance.
fluffypony: JorgePasada: I see our friends in the Neo&Bee thread don't understand that when you and I say "creditor" we mean "creditor" and not "investor"
JorgePasada: benkay: Not gonna make the meetup tonight, I'll be down later in the week though
fluffypony: benkay: yes but I want to talk to him
mircea_popescu: yes, this is true, money changers didn't traditionally run like banks.
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fluffypony: sure, but a cryptocurrency trading website needs to be able to enact trades in real time in a monolithic fashion
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yeah ideally the wiki should end up a sort of short story of all the blawgs.
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> pankkake: eventual consistency, within 3 weeks! << for all the beating eventual consistency gets, the sad secret elephant in the room is that all business in the history of business for the past 1k years has been of the eventual consistency types. what do you think double entry accounting is.
mircea_popescu: and depends what your interest is. my mention was something to the effect of, "some frenchie took the pseudo-statistics that yielded the golf club pattern in climate pseudo-science and applied it to pseudo-economics"
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> so it solves everything. twice. << 8 lines bashed. omfg i spilled. bwahahahaha
mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> haven't these guys given up already ? << i was kinda surprised myself.
TomServo: More to the point, is his book worth reading?
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> that gap is unbridgeable. ask hanbot. << hanbot teh bridge builder. in full leather regalia and with three whips and twoi lashes in each hand.
fluffypony: who can think
TomServo: mircea_popescu: I seem to recall you mentioning Piketty, but don't recall the context. Was it regarding his book?
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-05-05-cc318e9.png << no actually i said that. sorry.
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> besides the various forms of writing an address, I guess there are RIPEMD-160 collisions? << a ripemd-160 collision that'd make two diff bitcoin addresses out of one key is kinda improbable even theoretically tho
kakobrekla: you got a mention in the sauce.
asciilifeform: if you can induce oscillations strong enough to stretch the materials past breaking point.
asciilifeform: to finish the previous story - not everything is a wine glass. but anything that can be induced to behave like one, can be broken in just this way.
mike_c: i think you're missing a (* 1000)
mike_c: JS date time is in milliseconds
kakobrekla: but dunno, ill take a look
mike_c: when I looked at the cookie it said it expired in an hour.
mike_c: plus, the ref cookie only seems to be good for an hour.
kakobrekla: feel free to look at the code
mike_c: like, is referral cookie good for all bets or just the one you sent them to?
asciilifeform: tesla's hammer is often said to be 'debunked' because, placed in an arbitrary patch of ground, it is unlikely to do much.
mike_c: comments on that video are good too :) "Thanks now my crt is broken"
asciilifeform: same thing, but accidental - on a larger scale.
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asciilifeform: ;;google tacoma narrows bridge
mike_c: whoa. that video is cool. that glass is shaking.
davout: asciilifeform: you go to weird parties
asciilifeform: but with an automated widget that determines the glass's resonant freq.
asciilifeform: similar to what opera singers have done as a party trick
mike_c: smack the glass with the oscilliscope?
asciilifeform: mike_c: ever do the famous oscilloscope and breaking glass experiment?
asciilifeform: mike_c: i would expect the results to depend heavily on the surroundings.
mike_c: mythbusters says no tesla earthquake. http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/about-this-show/earthquake-machine.htm
davout: THEY'RE COOL THO
davout: != tesla coils
davout: oh, guess i was confused about what tesla's apparatus is
davout: "other - tesla's apparatus" <<< how? i would have said the second method involved some sort of sending waves through the earth and manage to use some sort of resonance phenomenon
asciilifeform: tesla's apparatus was briefcase-sized. and, according to rumour, the experiment has been replicated since. but, to no one's great surprise, the data in open literature is very scarce.
davout: yeah, thought about that one, might require an extremely massive one tho, or maybe very well positioned
asciilifeform: other - tesla's apparatus
asciilifeform: cost?! to produce?
davout: pankkake: doubtful, the last japenese earthquake cost sthg like 750,000
asciilifeform: at least two known methods.
davout: asciilifeform: are you implying that a human action could have some influence on the tectonic movements leading to an earthquake?
asciilifeform: davout: how 'mega' would depend on the tectonics of a particular location.
mike_c: it has minimum of 8.0 Mw. that would be impressive if manmade.
davout: asciilifeform: prolly not a mega one tho
asciilifeform: it is possible to trigger earthquake artificially.
asciilifeform: ^ this might be a 'badBet.'
pankkake: is there a rss feed per author on cryptocoinnews?
asciilifeform: startled executives, according to a participant in the meeting.'
asciilifeform: '"We can turn your computer into a brick," U.S. officials told the
asciilifeform: or, at least, stipulate in the rules that both fighters must share a channel
asciilifeform: some tricks would probably have to be excluded (e.g. radio jamming)
asciilifeform: there is enough 'design space' to make the tourney interesting. e.g. a smaller and more maneuverable craft is harder to blast with the glue gun, etc.
BingoBoingo: I'm thinking of the stuff developed a while back for non-lethal anti personel use
BingoBoingo: I could see a sticky hardening foam interfering with the aerodynamics of non-rotor aircraft
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: only the ones with exposed rotors.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine the drones having hardening foams and nets, seem more likely to cripple competing aircraft.
fluffypony: ;;later tell mircea_popescu my nonna phoned me back to say that they were discussing the piece of poetry, and she suggests this alternative: "This is a beautiful story for whoever listens to it, beautiful the people that tell the story, beautiful the land that cannot be forgotten, beautiful Michela she will be"
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell heysteve i haven't seen your links on crytocoinnews so feel free to pass them along!
fluffypony: now that I would sponsor
asciilifeform: fluffypony: going to sponsor a UFC fighter << never having known of 'UFC', i assumed that it referred to an 'unmanned flying competition' - i.e. drone dogfight tourney.
Apocalyptic: pankkake is to be chairman imo
pankkake: "Our target is to raise 15 BTC", lol
fluffypony: I actually can't bring myself to finish it
fluffypony: I started typing a reply to them but ya know
fluffypony: pankkake: YOU TOO CAN OWN A PIECE OF THIS WIKI!
pankkake: ;;later tell ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=598237.0 IPVO!!
BingoBoingo: Well, it is hard to characterize the eventual trajectory of any given true n00b.
thestringpuller: ah so the true n00b usually has a short attention span like the kids of the MTV generation @_@
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: the true n00b is already losing interest in bitcoin, though "cryptocurrency in general" still has their attention
thestringpuller: n00bs that are willfully ignorant will fight to defend said ignorance
thestringpuller: a n00b that isn't willfully ignorant
thestringpuller: because i had a discussion recently on the "true n00b"
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: That's a good question. I imagine we'll fill the wiki with important points over time, but in the long run it will probably be spread over the blogs. Maybe when it becomes a concern there might be a discussion of some sort of archive-assets for blogs that lose viability to to operator inability to continue them.
bitcoinpete: meaning that those entering the space will appreciate how little they know
bitcoinpete: eventually, i see fewer people walking into bitcoin (and assets) like they own the place
pankkake: I guess you end up reading old, important artists with all the links
bitcoinpete: ultimately, there's no replacement for reading the logs and the blogs
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: this is something we've discussed before i believe… and there's no one clear answer.
pankkake: there is the wiki
thestringpuller: bitcoinpete: What do you think will be the "premiere" archive of information? I imagine all the good info in BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves Trilema your's and other blogs will eventually be archived into the "Manual for the Bitcoin n00b"
fluffypony: it's like a triple spend
fluffypony: when you can have 3 different trades confirmed at the same time
fluffypony: who needs 1 trade to be confirmed
pankkake: so it solves everything. twice.
Apocalyptic: at this point the only thing that comes to mind is : "i don't even..."
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: but don't worry, despite being gutted and having a scam-IPO to rebuild they're going to use MongoDB because it solves everything!