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CheckDavid: Now I have
to speak out of my mouth and out of my ass
bounce: oh yes, irc on
text
to voice
fluffypony: everything you say comes out my speakers
twice as loud
fluffypony: sorry CheckDavid, I just saw
those notices now
fluffypony: hah hah, forensick posted on
that
thread
bounce: ;;8ball is it wise
to
trust eightballs?
davout: should i also buy
the first one ?
gribble: One would be wise
to
think so.
bounce: though
the link
text is pic.twitter.com/wfCyK1dQ48 which would be better in
this case. hm.
assbot: Dorian Nakamoto official statement/denial. Very interested
to see how /Newsweek /truth_eater /jimpoco respond.
http://t.co/wfCyK1dQ48 bounce: was a bit of a spat not
too long ago, when
they made it mandatory
bounce: because
the api requires auth
fluffypony: kakobrekla - why are you scraping
the dom instead of using
the API
tho?
bounce wonders where
that comes from
bounce: where'd
that /search stuff come from?
kakobrekla: someone post a link
to some
tweet for
test
decimation: At some point
the "tribes" begin
to reverse-colonize
the Leviathan state - see
the modern UK for instance
decimation: asciilifeform "settle
the nomads,
tax
the untaxed, etc." << yeah just ask
the ancient Romans about
the
Thervingians, Goths, Huns, etc. "We want land
to farm, but not your
tax or culture"
artifexd: <+benkay> also don't capitalize
the first letter of your nick <- Why? Is your autocomplete case sensitive?
benkay: bbiab
time
to hump pots
benkay: the ways we spend our
time...
jurov: life insurance became
thinly veiled alias for many other kinds of investments
benkay: you can configure big boy irc clients
to handle
that for you, although
that requires storing a password on disk.
benkay: you'll have
to /nick and
then /identify
bounce: it's registered. now log in with nickserv before it forces you off
the nick
benkay: also don't capitalize
the first letter of your nick
Drew: this is just
the nick im
temporarily using while i figure out how
to get back in
there
benkay: see
this is a problem with having one irc nick and another wot nick
gribble: Error: I am not seeing
this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user,
try
the 'gpg info' command instead.
Drew: how do i login
to my account i made?
Drew: and yea
the investment i was looking for was about 1.25m, so not so much little
Drew: yea i downloaded
the irc client
bounce: shush, no need
to go all "we already solved
this"
benkay: Drew: you're going
to want
to actually get an irc client if
the web clients aren't doing it for you.
benkay: anyways -assets
takes
the weekend off,
typically.
benkay: weren't you
throwing around numbers like 10m?
Drew: what was
the info for
the server login on mIRC again?
the web platform isnt nearly as good
Drew: im about
to post a different version of my little investment seeking
thread on bitcoin
talk, self moderated
to delete
trolls and just let it sort of sit around as advertisement while i start building my
trust
to approach from a different angle
Drew: not much, just stopped by
to see what was up
bounce: apparently
the
tweet is right
there, in a <p class="js-tweet-text
tweet-text"></p>
bounce: api discussion
tells you
to look for
the blue pills
bounce: obviously much
too hard
to parse html so every'll auth. prevents abuse, see?
kakobrekla: yes but make an api
that makes users parse html or worse ?
bounce: officially, anyway.
the webpage gets
the data somehow,
though. if it's not in
there
the js will have
to get it.
bounce: and if
that fails you can always fall back
to
the common case
kakobrekla: ;;google fetch
tweet by status number api
bounce: there's bound
to be an api somewhere
that might even just
take
the status number and return
the
tweet,
though.
FabianB: heh,
thought of requesting
this
too a few hours ago
bounce: can you make assbot drop
the whole
tweet (of up
to 160 characters, after all) instead of just
the
title, in case of
twittar/statuses/...?
assbot: #bitcoin-otc Web of
Trust -
Trust graph
herbijudlestoids: anyway guise, love you many long
time, i miss
the stimulating conversation of
this room and hope
to return
herbijudlestoids: Apocalyptic: we are one of
the few openstack companies in australia ;)
punkman: herbijudlestoids: what was it again? some SaaS
thing?
herbijudlestoids: wanted
to drop in and share some good news and make sure you guys hadnt forgotten about me
jurov: just not so sure of
the outcome
jurov: i;m
tired of all
these hypotheticals anyway.
they'll surely
try
these rfid-enabled sidewalk
tolls and whatnot
jurov: hence
they must screw someone over
bounce: we've already seen
that insecurity is no object, instead a rather desirable property; it's
the /perception/ of insecurity
that matters, and for
that
there's propaganda
jurov: couple
that with notorious insecurity of all popular e-cash solutions
jurov: there's still large part (if minority)
that avoids it and makes abolishing cash completely infeasible
bounce: sure. plenty people bought into it
too. rather surprising how hard it is
to
tell'em about
the downside of
the approach.
jurov: bounce
that's what propaganda says
bounce: in n/w europe it's usual for everyone
to have
their own accounts (even kids) and shared accounts on
top of
that. cash is maybe half of all purchases and steadily pushed down by banks+merchants+gov't in concert
jurov: or you scren few % from someone and
then large part of people revert
to using cash
jurov: either you have cheap epayments for everyone but
then
there's no profit incentive for anyone
HeySteve: ah yes, I remember
that story,
ta
fluffypony: HeySteve:
they seemed
to be doing ok, and
then
they had all
these deliveries
that were badly packed and arrived broken, now
they're
trying
to reship but afaik are still having stuff arrive damaged
bounce: since you already cannot live without some bank account and
they all charge more or less
the same
there's no way out of
that
jurov: bounce
that's no difference
bounce: oh
the banks just up
the fees for
their customers, but
they're a package deal on
the account level, not individual
transaction level
jurov: bounce find me one bank
that slashed fees by 60%
bounce: uhm, no. no extra fees per
transaction.
HeySteve: hey guys. anything you can
tell me about KFC Minor?
jurov: and use family relative account + atm withdrawal.
true story, multiple ppl i know
jurov: yes,
they
try.
then
they see
their account statement with various fees peppered about and bail
the hell out
bounce: consumers are sold on
this on "safer
to not carry cash", "using chip&pin is faster and easier
than cash" and such propaganda
bounce: er, prices decrease for
the customer? no, fees for
the merchant drop by 50%
jurov: in
the same way, banks will never give up milking
the merchants
jurov: you won't be
taken seriously
jurov: imagine starting a sentence "if goverment slashd
the
taxes by 60%..."
bounce: I'd have
to look up
the press releases by
the payment processors, but possibly yes
assbot: BitPay raising $30 million of capital, gives itself a $160 million valuation which is ridiculous |
The Cryptocurrency
Times
jurov: how more volume? as if,
twice
the number of people will switch
to epayment if prices decrease by 2%?
bounce: to
the point
that holdups and raids have shifted from supermarkets
to
the elderly in
their homes
bounce: oh right. still and all, more volume in return for lower fees is worth it for
the banks and less cash on hand is worth it
to
the merchants
jurov: regardless where's
the customer bank
bounce: here
they're not visible
to
the customer, so
the fees banks pay other banks (and
the central payment processor, if one) come out of
the bottom line. since merchant and customer both use some bank...
jurov: how can
they drop
the fees? banks are used
to
this income
bounce: until
they drop
the fees
to ~1% and put a big push on people using chip&pin,
then
the sheep'll do just
that
fluffypony: and
the pie shop on
the corner doesn't want
that