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mircea_popescu: DrewHorne
that was
the other question i was going
to ask. prev discussion you had gross income of 1.5mn over $40
tickets and 4k attendance.
these numbers are a degree of magnitude off, what gives ?
☟︎ bitcoinpete: gonna leave
this here… now off
to mother's day!
Dimsler: sell $100
tickets? with 370k people annually?
assbot: MPEx vs.
The Play Bitcoin Exchanges | When Bitcoin Met Pete
mircea_popescu: if not, many people, myself included, would love
to hear about it
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron if correctly implemented, you should be able
to yes.
DrewHorne: and we would be using multiple venues across
the country
DrewHorne: there is
though, when someone has stated publicly
that
they plan on acquiring $1 billion worth of electronic music festival related assets
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, can i depend on it
to protect bitcoin?
Dimsler: popularity of
the venue is
the exit strategy
danielpbarron: it's a default app in debian based systems i
think; but openbsd doesn't have it
mircea_popescu: but who were you going
to sell
to again, as
the exit strategy ?
DrewHorne: i assure you
that i am not his newly adopted alias
DrewHorne: im afraid i dont have an answer for
that mircea
mircea_popescu: bounce: apparently
the
tweet is right
there, in a <p class="js-tweet-text
tweet-text"></p> << ahahaha
this sort of shit.
mircea_popescu: DrewHorne what's
the relation of all
this with
the Collins-Rector character and his merry harem of gay bois ?
DrewHorne: since i have had a few interested people contact me based off of
the last post i made regarding
this (approached much less professionally without knowledge of
the forum i was getting into) i figured i can let
this sit on
the off chance
that other investors happen upon it while i work on building my
trust in
the WOT
to approach from
that angle as well
DrewHorne: mircea i would be interested
to see any feedback you might have for me
to improve
this post if you had a moment
DrewHorne: i know
theres a lot of bullshit on
there but
there are some legitimate businessmen
too if i can find
the diamond amongst all
the shit
DrewHorne: so after speaking with you guys i have modified my approach on
the bitcointalk forum
mircea_popescu: to best understand
this : a bank
that reports its customers
to any
tax office
they want
to, if
they want it
to, and doesn't otherwise would be
the embodiment of legal neutrality, in
the absolute sense. nevertheless,
the legal
theory would be presented
that it is in fact actgively engaged in criminal activity, and as shoddy as
that legal
teory may be, it will actually carry in most western courts.
mircea_popescu: so let's not confuse
things. bitcoin can be as neutral as you want, for you. for hitler, stalin, pol pot and obama, bitcoin is ~quite~ politically engaged.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr bitcoin is politically neutral only in some sort of politically meaningless "absolute" sense. otherwise, inasmuch as western socialism holds
the ideological view
that all non socialist (politically neutral or otherwise) systems of
thought are political enemies, bitcoin can only be politically-engaged from
their perspective.
BingoBoingo: benkay: I hate when whales
think
they are dancers.
mircea_popescu: your friend would maybe be well served
to get hooked up with in here.
decimation: especially when
the pineapple has your face carved in it :)
mike_c: mircea_popescu: i know a 1st year comp sci student looking for summer work if you
think
that might fit
the data entry
thing you're looking
to get done.
decimation: it's funny how
they are dividing
themselves neatly into niggers.txt and non-niggers.txt
mircea_popescu: decimation it's ok,
these same people will need jobs
ten years from now
too.
fluffypony: what happens if you get a skin disease AND you have skin in
the game?
decimation: Mircea,
to be specific, unless some white guy in New York City is doing a bitcoin etf, it doesn't exist
decimation: apparently you have
to be invited
to
thier "conference"
decimation: They have not really
talked
to anybody.
decimation: " I see
the winklevii at conferences about bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: so according
to bloomberg,
the fact
that bitcoin etf already exists is
to be ignored, because unless fucktarded white friends of
theirs come
to help us, we are just a bunch of niggers over here.
decimation: yeah
there is something
to physical currency, it will alway have a place
decimation: so most folk walk around with cash, unlike in
the us
jurov: in slovakia,
they are quite common, but
trying
to pay < 10euro in small shops by card is considered rude or outright rejected
mircea_popescu: if a merchant feels
they need
to ask,
they'll ask "are you paying cash ?" or "would you be using cash or a cc ?"
mircea_popescu: poor people (coupon hunter housewife
types) and government employees.
decimation: is it common
that people pay with credit cards in Romania?
mircea_popescu: bounce: since you already cannot live without some bank account and
they all charge more or less
the same
there's no way out of
that << i've never had a personal bank accouint actually.
mircea_popescu: except, i don't owe
them 30 euros a month currently, so...
mircea_popescu: jurov: bounce find me one bank
that slashed fees by 60% << well my bank keeps
trying
to sell me on
this deal whereby if i pay
them 30 euros a month fixedx
they'll cut
their per
tx fees
to 0 for x
txn and
to 50% for all
the rest.
decimation: yeah even
tiny businesses in
the US should be able
to get $15-20 million in revenue
mircea_popescu: otherwise, something
that's been worked at for years'd better be over 100mn or else wtf is going on
mircea_popescu: assbot: BitPay raising $30 million of capital, gives itself a $160 million valuation which is ridiculous |
The Cryptocurrency
Times << it's only ridiculous if you're some blogger with nary
two meatballs
to rub
together in your stomach.
assbot: Michael Novogratz - Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia
decimation: He and his wife Dora "Sukey" Caceres have four children.[2][10]
They also own a home in Amagansett.[10]
decimation: According
to La Wik apparently one of his college roommates was
the head of
trading at RBC Capitoal Markets: In 2006, he bought Robert De Niro's $12.25 million duplex in Manhattan's
Tribeca neighborhood.[3] When he moved into De Niro's former residence, Mickey Rourke moved into Novogratz' former Meatpacking district residence.[2] He was college roommates with Richard
Tavoso, head of global arbitrage and
trading at RBC Capital Markets.[3][14]
benkay: lol for a sec i
thought Donno was a human
decimation: Donno, apparenlty
the ex-college roommate of
this Michael Novogratz dude
benkay: decimation who's working on btc derivs in barbados full
time?
decimation: doesn't facebook make shadow accounts for people
that have been uploaded by other lusers and whose faces appear on photos?
decimation: the only reason
that USians don't open a checking account with
the Fed is
to spread around
the bezzle
mircea_popescu: as usual, any attempts
to
tighten
the noose past a certain level do more
to chaff
the
thing
decimation: well,
the situation
today is such
that
the Fed is
the bank
that underwrites all
the banks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform:
the clever fellows who presently escape surveillance by eschewing mobile phones, will be collared at last << nbot really. just have procurement contract with select shop, order stuff pay on month's end.
assbot: Fortress Investment Group - Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia
decimation: My college roommate lives in barbados.
The smartest guy we went
to school with. He full-time works on derivatives for bitcoin.
There is
this open source community with huge brain power and lots of seed money going in."
decimation: "Intellectually it is a fascinating story. If you look at
the market cap for bitcoin, it is for
the five billion dollars. -- $4 billion
to $5 billion.
jurov: yes, it's scattered around
the log
kakobrekla: maybe its a good
time and place for
this nao :)
kakobrekla: i
think asciilifeform had some
things
to say re
trezor
benkay: what's
the deal with asicminer dividends?
jurov: i§ll should get it
tomorrow or so
jurov: only stick is
too lazy
to upload
tracking numbers
to
the website
benkay: is
the
trezor actually shipping?
HeySteve: ;;google
the bitcoin foundation is a scam site:log.bitcoin-assets.com
HeySteve: would someone please remind me of how
to search
the asset log for key phrases via
the bot?
benkay: there are no capital barriers
to
the colored coin system which means it will rapidly fill with
the criminal and
the stupid.
fluffypony: coloured coins are maybe more interesting, but
then I have
to wonder if it's solving a problem
that needs solving?
CheckDavid: I see. I don't feel concerned about
that honesty
fluffypony: also
the whole principle seems
to be "decentralise
the
trade but centralise
the communication"
fluffypony: CheckDavid: because
there's no communication platform, so bagholders can offload
their shares onto unsuspecting
trader
CheckDavid: fluffypony: what's
the problem if it continues
trading?
fluffypony: I do have a problem with something
that seems
to, on face value, just enable scammers
to scam even more easily
than CryptoStocks
fluffypony: CheckDavid: I also have no problem with operators being real-world anonymous if
they choose
to do so,
there are checks and balances in place for
that (such as
their WoT presence)
jurov: fluffypony: decentralized
trading of provable scams is
the next level
fluffypony: no centralised control means
that asset continues
trading
fluffypony: let's say it's provably a scam and
the operator has disappeared
fluffypony: the other problem is
things like delisting an asset
fluffypony: CheckDavid: fundamentally I don't have a problem with
the *idea* of a distributed exchange,
the problem is
that it's not realistically plausible right now (in
terms of being able
to handle any significant
trade volume)
CheckDavid: I am am just asking about
the current state and
their respective pros and cons
bounce: where's
the question
then?