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decimation: it's easy to count circulated (and counterfeit!) printed dollars
decimation: no. try to find out exactly how many dollars there are in the world, for instance
mircea_popescu: i tihnk the first rule of embezzle is that you can never know how much bezzle there is.
decimation: that's pretty much the whole bezzle right there
decimation: $23 trillion are in us "retirement assets"
decimation: see, there about $70 trillion assets in the world
decimation: heh yeah last I read they were being told that they can get their gold "real soon now"
mircea_popescu: and what the relation is exactly between that and the current ukraine stuff.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if zee germans have got their gold back btw,
decimation: some computer says that some other computer says that it has a gold bar, but they can't touch it
mircea_popescu: they... um. hold their hand ?
mircea_popescu: in that sense, they're probably also married to women i fuck.
decimation: plenty of US citizens 'hold gold' but have never touched the metal
decimation: well, it's a hilarity forced upon the us by the USG
mike_c: certainly something will be used to explain the rise after the next bump. always gotta be a reason or we have to admit we have no clue.
mircea_popescu: decimation the nonsense of holding gold "in your 401k" is so amusing to me.
decimation: yeah, it's hard to separate all of the confounding factors
mircea_popescu: besides, couldn't have marketed it during dot com bubble, nor during the intervening contraction
mircea_popescu: just, they hadn't figured out how to "market" it till recently.
mircea_popescu: i thought that's been available for decades.
decimation: Yes, I think so. But it was also the first time that it was easy to buy "gold" in your 401k account
mircea_popescu: wasn't that more related to various red talk shows pumping iot ?
decimation: this is true. but the usd price of gold went up quite a bit after the gold ETF's opened up
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mircea_popescu: terribly difficult to predict, too.
mircea_popescu: experience shows that the various fiat side efforts have pretty much zero impact on bitcoin price, you know ?
decimation: this supposed bitcoin etf, although not new, might be a harbinger of the next leg up in bitcoin v. USD
decimation: yes, this is certainly true
mircea_popescu: we'd all love this situation where there's a way to avoid all risk. nevertheless, that's a counterfactual. irl, adults have to pick a poison at all times.
mircea_popescu: decimation arguably NOT incorporating on mpex is taking an even bigger risk.
decimation: well, they are certainly taking a big risk
mircea_popescu: so they are.
benkay: one might go so far as to say that listing on mpex and incorporating in the states are mutually exclusive at this time.
mircea_popescu: they don't have to incorporate in the us.
decimation: the trouble is that if they are incorporated in the US, they might make USG an enemy
mircea_popescu: anyway, the guy does miss an impoirtant point : small companies can indeed opt out of patent trollage : they incorporate on mpex, as per bitcoin rules.
decimation: yes, it is pretty clear that the "patent system" has been captured by those who are enriched by patents
mircea_popescu: stronger than that : the prestige of people judging it depends on them giving out patent support.
decimation: yeah it seems like the basic problem is that there is no coherent law, so the courts are faced with either making stuff up or continually pawning the problem off onto someone else
danielpbarron: heh, that's the twitter profile description of an associate of mine
decimation: this is relevant to the latest google v oracle decision: http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2014/05/10/oracle-google.html
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mircea_popescu: "Being of thought and freedom. Working on my financial future through proper investments in BTC, and working on becoming a poker master."
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Apocalyptic: with order expiration time shown, and no trade log
mircea_popescu: i guess bitcoin bourse guy should patent the website that sells things
mircea_popescu: so amazon now has a patent on the concept of the white wall
benkay: !up tank100
benkay: !up Troic
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bravetheworld: benkay thank you again. i got to be on my grind now, take care all. nice "meeting" you :)
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jurov: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets just found out we have got nice tutorial
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benkay: anyways bravetheworld we take identity pretty seriously around here. consider getting yourself into the #bitcoin-otc web of trust so you can hang out and talk more without the incessant
bounce selflessly offers to soak up the excess monies
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benkay: ;;google trilema too much money
bravetheworld: lady-droid for fun fun or the grilling of steaks please
benkay: less frequently of late the procurement of actual parts gets involved, but that may change.
benkay: i do business consulting. occasionally the procurement of software gets involved.
bravetheworld: benkay truth
benkay: implying there's a difference, bravetheworld.
bravetheworld: benkay building things, like coding? of literally
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete i also don't own half of every stock, such as for instance s.nsa, where i'm an implied minority (via ssws)
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete dude it wasn't in my back yard, it was at like a hotel and everything.
bravetheworld: I shoot trap on the weekends if I can help it
bravetheworld: but then my dealer came through., goddammit.
bravetheworld: mircea_popescu don't consider this meeting but noted
mircea_popescu: i'm the richest guy you've ever met, and if i can help it, the richest guy you'll ever meet.
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mircea_popescu: bravetheworld https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.msg3449849#msg3449849 there
bravetheworld: welcome to derp nation, population everyone
benkay: i acquire bitcoins by building things. sometimes i have to take some other paper first.
bravetheworld: mircea_popescu & benkay do you mind if I ask what you guys do? or let me rephrase. what is your participation in bitcoin? just interested to know the crowd
benkay: mircea_popescu: but out there for his clients he runs his own thing.
jurov: adjective: lateral : of, at, towards, or from the side or sides.
mircea_popescu: what is this, swallows ?
mircea_popescu: jurov i dunno what fucking you've been to, but there's nothing motherfucking lateral about it.
mircea_popescu: no, i run his own thing. he just works there.
benkay: he runs his own thing.
benkay: he runs his own thing?
benkay: asciilifeform makes widgets and is more of a smug lisp weenie than me
mircea_popescu: topace runs the risk
mircea_popescu: o that too.
benkay: no the bash runs on vexual
mircea_popescu: skinnkavaj runs the chan bash
mircea_popescu: but eventually one has to stop.
princessnell: bravetheworld this is gr8.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr ruins the cryptoz
jurov: mircea_popescu no, that's bilateral
mircea_popescu: justusranvier runs the sanity of bitcoin during his rare moments of clarity
mircea_popescu: jurov isn't bidirectional when they also fuck me ?
jurov: ...except in the sense that i fuck women in both holes<< that's bidirectional
benkay: thestringpuller used to trade options
mircea_popescu: dub runs like 1/7th or so of all the internets
mircea_popescu: bravetheworld i'm not bisexual except in the sense that i fuck women in both holes
bravetheworld: mircea_popescu the bisexual one of the 2