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thestringpuller: or moreover if
they are currently in violation of a contract
they are definitively scammors in
that context
thestringpuller: aren't
those people labeled as scammors until
those obligations are paid of per
the contract?
BingoBoingo: benkay: Well, it depends on
the construct.
benkay: there are people in
this channel in
the proces of paying off
their obligations.
BingoBoingo: If you Gox says you have X BTC and can't cover
that it's a scam.
benkay: "can't be covered" in which
timeframe?
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Well, loses without being a scam are probably possible if
they are documented, but generally an obligation
that can't be covered is a scam.
thestringpuller: bitcoinpete: so my idea would be
to do what mircea_popescu did but additionally, compare it
to
the known losses of non scammor companies (i
think most losses from non scamming companies have been covered somehow).
Thus
there is like a
two-side criterion based on BingoBoingo's observation of a BTC company
that incurs losses it can never cover as "scammors"
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benkay: thanks jurov. i saw
that link but hope springs eternal
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fluffypony: "Sorry for you
that GPG is hard. Probably you can find introduction guide
to help you understand."
thestringpuller: bitcoinpete mike_c : It's a rehash of an old story, but it would be a neat article if
the research is done right.
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danielpbarron: I'm waiting for
the bitcoin-days destroyed chart
to have a spike
today
danielpbarron: is
that relevant for services
that aren't generating addresses?
pankkake: you need pictures of
the developers
to know
that. do
they have
thick rimmed glasses, fedoras, or ironic moustaches?
danielpbarron: what services are using node.js? i
tried searching around but couldn't get definitive answers
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bitcoinpete: i doubt
there's a western country without it
benkay: jurov, wao can y'all give me a link
to something about
the node.js and js.rand problems?
benkay: bitcoinpete: you have
this 'substitution' nonsense up north as well?
mike_c: i'm still waiting for
thestringpuller's story.
benkay: what is a boy
to read over coffee anyways?
pankkake: it's also a way
to escape
taxes, at least in France very much so
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: fixed your gravatar in
the comments section
mircea_popescu: lmao
there's a belgium whale now, buying up all
the
Ts russia is dumping. hahaha
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davout: that'll make a nice first post, a nice second post
too if i'm lazy
mircea_popescu: and yes, it helps your blog get some nice sticky content,
too.
davout: i can see
the use, i'll use
the opportunity
to publish a coupla stats
too
davout: which one should i
take? last
trade before settlement (which could be days behind) or last active bid before settlement?
mircea_popescu: (joe borrows from moe x.eur, promises
to repay either in x.eur or else in settlement value)
mircea_popescu: plus people will be able
to do soft futures on its basis
mircea_popescu: schelling point. needs
to have
the property of direct obviousness and no other.
mircea_popescu: that's what a schelling point is. suppose you're abudcted by aliens, with a bunch of other people you never saw in your life.
the aliens put four cards face up in front of each of you,
the same cards, and say yo ucan go if you all pick
the same card
mircea_popescu: "i will pay joe 1.5 btc for
this car on may 16th, provided x.eur settles under 0.03. otherwise, 1.2 btc"
davout: it's very
thinly
traded
tho, and i could manipulate it, no?
davout: so if i understand correctly you
think it could have some use a price signal
mircea_popescu: well, yes. you're in a fine position
to establish a signal settlement price.
davout: referred
to shelling points
davout: nah, interested in
the rationale
that would be behind it, you said "it allows
the pricing of derivatives, bitbet bets etc."
mircea_popescu: davout so, you publishing
the x.eur settlement anywhere ?
wao: but didnt catch up
trend, yet.
fluffypony: gawd, I didn't even know railsgirls was a
thing
wao: (submisive is
too sexistic word..)
wao: you know, all
that rails girls classes for subversile girls
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jurov: oh
that's in *specification*?
jurov: wao is
there a bug report for it?
wao: "Javascripts Math.random is not very random." but is more like javascript problem I
think
wao: mircea_popescu: I
think it was mentioned many
times, like 2-3years ago
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: so no node in
that case?
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fluffypony: afaik most of
those paper wallet
things are straight JS and
they do
the crunching on
the client device
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, either space is still bigger
than debian had circa 2006...
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mircea_popescu: so basically any gpg key / wallet / anything ever generater on node.js could be cracked
trivially, within hours.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo afaik
that was never
THAT narrow. 10^8, srsly ?
BingoBoingo: Lemme guess
this is also
the android RNG problem
jurov: but it's inherited from chrome, no? chrome can have it
too
then?
wao: yeah, I found
this dickie feature of node in past ^ :D
mircea_popescu: write
this up, in mucho detail. i bet you all
the shitty "paper wallet" js implementations rest on node.js
jurov: and reaction of
typical node programmer like wao? "oh i remember we had
this problem sometime"
jurov: regardless of node restarts
that should have changed
the seed
jurov: somehow it just isn't able
to generate more
than 80 million random IDs