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jurov: well, there are tries to make p2p exchanges... but so far it looks they are not usable for anything near mpex volume/speed
jurov: there is none known way to take shares out of mpex and nto safe if that's what you mean
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.007395 = 12.5715 BTC [+]
mjr_: but i have no issues with shares on mpex or coinbr
mjr_: where do you hold the shares that you buy? are they in an account on mpex?
jurov: btw, i think i left there commented js code to read mpex rss feed... so if anyone wants an example
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00067229 = 2.8236 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: why doesn't it have mpex data ?
mjr_: just wish it had more exchanges and mpex data
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2894 @ 0.00066215 = 1.9163 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 618 @ 0.00066316 = 0.4098 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 231 @ 0.00718281 = 1.6592 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 707 @ 0.00720505 = 5.094 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 623 @ 0.00720781 = 4.4905 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 205 @ 0.00724226 = 1.4847 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 813 @ 0.00724493 = 5.8901 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 271 @ 0.00729494 = 1.9769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00729495 = 1.0942 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9829 @ 0.00067229 = 6.6079 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067219 = 2.9045 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4732 @ 0.00066316 = 3.1381 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7803 @ 0.00066411 = 5.1821 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00066411 = 1.9452 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.0006649 = 4.3551 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1571 @ 0.00066565 = 1.0457 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7979 @ 0.00066565 = 5.3112 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006658 = 2.8769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00067189 = 2.8891 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: there were some reasonable blocks bought on mpex pre-divs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00067229 = 2.7564 BTC [+]
jurov: also that would fall nicely into the plan to tell noobs coinbr is all there is, mpex is the old version
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 320 @ 0.00067229 = 0.2151 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00067162 = 4.7685 BTC [+]
mod6: pizzaman1337: it'll be availble through the MPEx affiliate program.
jurov: why all the trouble? just use throwaway key. scan iris, pay 30 bucks, trade on teh mpex. problem solved.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2231 @ 0.007395 = 16.4982 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1277 @ 0.00733364 = 9.3651 BTC [-]
mod6: its for MPEx
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3421 @ 0.00066565 = 2.2772 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066569 = 2.8764 BTC [-]
maximian: "oh my god, MPEx is the geekiest stock exchange I've ever seen. you have to send commands via command line? no web interface?" << this is actually what attracted me to mpex!
mircea_popescu: nobody can get into mpex to the tune of 10 ppl a day or some shit
mircea_popescu: "o noes, but nobody can get on mpex!1"
gesell: explain to them that gpg, command line foo and mpex design should be percieved like the days when the internet filled up with idiots... we'd still stick to vms to have some peace of mind from it all
mircea_popescu: "the "shares" that MPEx has that it lets you buy and then sell ... how did they get them, and what exactly are these shares?"
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17rjzk/mpex_this_is_what_we_mean_by_bitcoin_will/ also gets some lulz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00733364 = 4.4002 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00067162 = 8.2609 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: course the hidden thing in all of this is that if mpex scales worth a shit everyone can just do push transactions.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1596 @ 0.00067746 = 1.0812 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00067653 = 2.1311 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6548 @ 0.00067516 = 4.4209 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1406 @ 0.00067505 = 0.9491 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4306 @ 0.00067504 = 2.9067 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3294 @ 0.00067505 = 2.2236 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: smickles http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17rjzk/mpex_this_is_what_we_mean_by_bitcoin_will/c887zpp
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15 @ 0.00067504 = 0.0101 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2735 @ 0.00067229 = 1.8387 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 279 @ 0.00066565 = 0.1857 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10821 @ 0.00066715 = 7.2192 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: then you know it's not mpex
mircea_popescu: this is why you can always trust a mpex "phisher"
mircea_popescu: so now. if i want to talk to all the users on mpex, i could just post a long file, made out of bits, each encrypted with a user's signature.
mircea_popescu: take for instance mpex db dump : http://mpex.co/db_dump.php
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 279 @ 0.00066715 = 0.1861 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00066737 = 2.8837 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9399 @ 0.00067229 = 6.3189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00067194 = 2.9035 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4680 @ 0.00067014 = 3.1363 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00066715 = 1.0007 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00066716 = 3.6027 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 373 @ 0.00737449 = 2.7507 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 895 @ 0.00737449 = 6.6002 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00067024 = 3.8874 BTC [+]
smickles: the f.giga.etf issue was basically, that the original gigavps asset stopped, and people thought that the mpex listing would take action to acquire the new gigavps
mjr_: mpex UI
smickles: but, yeah, most to all of the 'bad' about mpex/mircea is that mpex looks ugly
smickles: < mjr_> like for example...i don't think i have ever read one negative article about mpex or mirceau_popescu <<< lolwut?
mjr_: like for example...i don't think i have ever read one negative article about mpex or mirceau_popescu
smickles: yeah, much depends on the broker's 'off mpex float'
malaimo: since you guys are talking about mpex architecture: would be cool to make withdrawals more automated, e.g. as on the exchanges
smickles: well, technically, the fee goes to mpex, but it gets paid to s.mpoe shareholders
mjr_: two questions, are signup fees accounted for in mpoe, and can you transfer your positions from a broker back to mpex
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1464 @ 0.007395 = 10.8263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 738 @ 0.007395 = 5.4575 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/mpex-and-the-hft-problem/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00066716 = 3.0689 BTC [+]
jurov: i don't think mpex will be able to afford laying fiber even to biggest customers in near future
smickles: http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-tech-stuff/#footnote_0_45984 makes the fee i paid worth it :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2868 @ 0.00066411 = 1.9047 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5532 @ 0.00066412 = 3.6739 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.007395 = 73.95 BTC [+]
jurov: now am really curious what will reddit say to it all: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17rjzk/mpex_this_is_what_we_mean_by_bitcoin_will/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1209 @ 0.00737449 = 8.9158 BTC [-]
jurov: Our many and talented graphical artists are hard at work refining the abyssal beauty that is MPEx.co, and I dare not interrupt them.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4468 @ 0.00066412 = 2.9673 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3632 @ 0.00066438 = 2.413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2560 @ 0.00068038 = 1.7418 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00068032 = 1.8369 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.0006803 = 5.2043 BTC [+]