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fluffypony: for that amount of money even the most straight-laced individual would have a hard time not wanting to lift a little
fluffypony: moiety: let me put it this way
moiety: i know fluffypony it's just too hard for me to believe that
assbot: Australian bitcoin user TradeFortress says site hacked, $1 million in virtual currency stolen - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
cazalla: i'll see if i can find the recording
fluffypony: of their Bitcoin
cazalla: tradefortress was on national tv talking about the loss, almost having a laugh
fluffypony: it's hard to say with any degree of certainty that he didn't con people out
mircea_popescu: which was in fact truth, plain as day, for as long as the state was weak and the hansa and its successor guilds ruled supreme.
mircea_popescu: sooner or later people will come to the realisation that reputation is worth a helluva lot than money,
mircea_popescu: and none of them may come back, ever again, in any capacity.
moiety: lots of people close due to hacks (whether true or not) and don't reimburse anything
mircea_popescu: even as it is they have a hard time.
mircea_popescu: and if it becomes socially acceptable bitcoin will become entirely sealed off to the poor.
mircea_popescu: yeah. the problem is that this take in 4k btc, take a vacation for half a year then come back and split a btc or two to the idiots is really very good business.
mircea_popescu: pankkake that's easily believable
moiety: i was a mod at coinchat then he just gave the thing to me when he left
pankkake: he probably lost them throught CoinLenders. still a scam, running a fractionnal reserve is a scam
moiety: i wasn't really watching the forum through all of this, i knew him in a different capacity
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction eb37287bdebf6b52553f1538e7c46e0ec4f1cd4701d5c17ad9f6047a0fa52814
mircea_popescu: https://blockchain.info/tx/eb37287bdebf6b52553f1538e7c46e0ec4f1cd4701d5c17ad9f6047a0fa52814 you mean this ?
moiety: i don't think he did though and i believe he reimbursed what he could out of his own funds
moiety: no tf
moiety: weev said himself “because it's fucking hilarious to demand money from feds for a McVeigh Memorial grove,” adding “I honestly think we need to build statues of them just to piss off federal agents really.”
mircea_popescu: pankkake: TradeFortress is now known as "Free hugs! ♥" on scamtalk << why is it always the scammers that push the purely formal "be nice to people" angle ? o wait! because that's how mimicry works, and that's what they are!
mircea_popescu: i guess remarkably patient girl then huh.
fluffypony: so when she got here and tried to talk...lol...
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: Isn't moiety only getting 1 bitcent an hour? and this dude wants 100x that << if people could make a bitcoin/hour sitting in a us prison we'd definitely need to increase the block rewards.
moiety: why do I never get the ping timeout thing? is it my client?
fluffypony: yeah, will take a bit of doing to get through the wall at 500
mircea_popescu: moving up in the world.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.94, Best ask: 494.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 494.94, 24 hour volume: 23878.21163108, 24 hour low: 455.07, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 484.900683671
mircea_popescu: i thought she was in the us.
mircea_popescu: that's long enough then :D
mircea_popescu: anarkitty hey there
fluffypony: anarkitty is in the room - she sent me a message on Reddit 3 hrs ago, so presumably she's asleep now
moiety: "His posts seem a tad strange" lol
fluffypony: at least he dropped the BitBet affil link out of his signature
fluffypony: and put "aka Tradefortress" as his description
pankkake: goat started the trend, I guess
punkman: that's a furst rate turban
fluffypony: will wait for both of them to be up
punkman: guess kitty went to sleep now
fluffypony: I just got your reddit reply...sent 3 hours ago...I should check that more regularly
fluffypony: replace VS with XCode and you have the same issue on OS X
assbot: Everything Is Broken The Message Medium
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell danielpbarron I also don't think it is possible to build bitcoind/qt on any platform without throwing at least an error.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell danielpbarron I'm coming around to the idea that it i probably best to keep your bitcoin wallets away from your nodes.
bitcoinpete: Isn't moiety only getting 1 bitcent an hour? and this dude wants 100x that
bitcoinpete: "For the 13 months he spent at Allenwood Federal Correctional Complex and the span he spent before then awaiting trial, Auernheimer is asking the government to pay his current market-determined rate of 1 BTC an hour, amounting to 28,296 bitcoins, or $13,200,000 USD as of this writing."
assbot: 66% of Dutch want old currency the Guilder back. Mere 26% supports status quo of Netherlands as member of EU. http://t.co/rlboTfPV16
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 493.75, Best ask: 494.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 494.0, 24 hour volume: 25806.57301911, 24 hour low: 454.38, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 476.842344556
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 492.02, Best ask: 493.62, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 494.0, 24 hour volume: 26225.50220859, 24 hour low: 454.38, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 476.830339419
thestringpuller: i feel like that's an anagram that is going over my head
mircea_popescu: i'd guess the berkshire bet will have reached half its total bet sum sometime this autumn
artifexd: Sure. If you have that kind of cheddar to throw around, sure.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, 2.5k is certain
mircea_popescu: too easy to manipulate tho
artifexd: Idea for a bet: Total bet on 786 to exceed 2500BTC
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.67, Best ask: 496.5, Bid-ask spread: 1.83000, Last trade: 496.5, 24 hour volume: 29266.10215098, 24 hour low: 451.01, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 476.739040274
[]bot: Bet placed: 50 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment (http://bitbet.us/bet/786/)". Odds: 86(Y):14(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 1307.03879007 BTC. Current weight: 80,465.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 493.79, Best ask: 494.58, Bid-ask spread: 0.79000, Last trade: 494.58, 24 hour volume: 29696.05623876, 24 hour low: 447.63, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 476.724107341
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Cardano to Ship in 2014 (http://bitbet.us/bet/859/)". Odds: 98(Y):2(N) by coin, 98(Y):2(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,989.
mircea_popescu: how about the right accomplishes firing your wife, dear economist, from her "womens studies" uni position ?
mircea_popescu: dude im so fucking sick of the left spin
mircea_popescu: "The Economist @TheEconomist · 2h The far-right may triumph in the EU parliament elections but they won't achieve much there"
moiety: I'm turning in, night everyone :]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'любишь кататься люби и саночки возить' (proverb. 'like sledding? like pulling sled then, too.'
mircea_popescu: it is insanely difficult to interface with the world, mostly because the world is principally made out of people smarter than you will ever be.
mircea_popescu: it is very easy to interface with a computer : it's pinned down in place, mechanical and stupider than you.
mircea_popescu: and so they end up with the stupidest contributor doing the most important parts : interfacing with the world.
mircea_popescu: because nobody ever has to put effort where they already suck, because they don't suck, it's just the problem that's unworthy of attention.
mircea_popescu: clearly thus therefore cooking and cleanning is stupid, and definitely not something one should learn or study or do well
mircea_popescu: there's these things people like doing, like say rubbing their scrotum. and then there's these other things people don't like doing, like cooking and cleanning.
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you :
asciilifeform: where do they even get them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the bob beck thing is epic
mircea_popescu: o look at that asciilifeform... not a whole lot of confidence.
mircea_popescu: (granted, my interest in this sort of minutia is faint)
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asciilifeform: this is a fairly well-known fact (i thought)
mircea_popescu: so THIS is the actual root of the emacs wars ?
mircea_popescu: "And while I’m setting the record straight, the original (TECO-based) Emacs was created and designed by Guy L. Steele Jr. and David Moon. After they had it working, and it had become established as the standard text editor at the AI lab, Stallman took over its maintenance."
asciilifeform: viable in the butugychag sense. you can live there for a bit...
mircea_popescu: "or example, remember that the first viable Windows O/S, release 3.1, came out in in 1990"
mircea_popescu: "Symbolics signed long-term leases on big new offices and a new factory, anticipating growth that did not come, and were unable to sublease the properties due to office-space gluts, which drained a great deal of money."
mircea_popescu: "Meanwhile, back at Symbolics, there were huge internal management conflicts, leading to the resignation of much of top management, who were replaced by the board of directors with new CEO’s who did not do a good job" i dunno..
assbot: Rebuttal to Stallmans Story About The Formation of Symbolics and LMI | Software and Innovation
mircea_popescu: course... i seem to also remember some massive rms drama
asciilifeform: titanically great product (to the point that, imho, it has never been equalled) but they rode a very particular wave of bezzola, ended up going down with it.
mircea_popescu: Also, a lot of Symbolics sales were based on the promise of rule-based expert systems, of which the early examples were written in Lisp. Rule-based expert systems are a fine thing, and are widely used today (but often not in Lisp). But they were tremendously over-hyped by certain academics and by their industry, resulting in a huge backlash around 1988. “Artificial Intelligence” fell out of favor; the “AI Winter
asciilifeform dusts off his copy of the Chinanual
assbot: The public burning of Bob Beck pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: " We at Symbolics were slow to acknowledge this. We believed our own “dogma” even as it became less true. It was embedded in our corporate culture. If you disputed it, your co-workers felt that you “just didn’t get it” and weren’t a member of the clan, so to speak. This stifled objective analysis. (This is a very easy problem to fall into — don’t let it happen to you!)"
asciilifeform: bob the goatfucker ?
mircea_popescu: work into those, but they were never publicized or advertised."
mircea_popescu: "We had great success amongst primary customers. I think we could have found a lot more of them if our marketing had been better. For example, did you know that Symbolics had a world-class software development environment for Fortran, C, Ada, and other popular languages, with amazing semantics-understanding in the editor, a powerful debugger, the ability for the languages to call each other, and so on? We put a lot of
mircea_popescu: gotta love the guy's style.
mircea_popescu: "At the MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab, fifteen researchers shared a computer with a .001 GHz CPU and .002 GB of main memory."
asciilifeform: ted nelson (for all his faults) predicted this very same thing, in the 1960s