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punkman: poutine, what's
the cost? seems like you only have
to come up with something
that identifies rewritable
transactions and broadcasts
them with his own address
mircea_popescu: because
they load it in
the mempool and chainmine for all its permutations
mircea_popescu: see
the
thing is, your system may actually SAVe
the miners
thousands of dollars.
poutine: I should say it'd be cost prohibitive at
this point
poutine: Ok I should not make
the claim
that an unsigned
transaction cannot be forged
poutine: we're
talking probably
thousands of dollars
poutine: yes, a miner could cheat, but a miner would have a significant cost
to cheat
poutine: also it would prevent double
turns, forgeries, etc by virtue of
the protocol
punkman: poutine, your puzzle redeeming
transaction could be rewritten by a miner right?
mircea_popescu: yeah i see.
thing is... why'd you want
to play it
this way rather
than
the normal way ?
poutine: (it's going
to result in unspendable outputs because...
tic
tac
toe
though)
poutine: Ok well I can do
tic
tac
toe on
the blockchain, let me write it up
poutine: mircea_popescu, Hmm I'm not sure I understand,
the way I'd see it is if it were chess, all possible moves would be an acceptable redemption for
the
tx, like pawn
to e4 would be a redemption, Qxe5, etc.
That way
the game could be followed just by following
the blockchain for
the
tx
poutine: I can make a
tx where
there's 24 potential scriptSigs
that will redeem it
mircea_popescu: punkman: MP goes away,
the logs dry up, for shame << i dunno dood, I've been working
to catch up for
three days. in between picking up hawt brazilian chicks in
the street and shoveling steaks
poutine: thestringpuller, Well you have a 201 opcode limit, 1000 stack size limit, and a 10000 byte
tx limit, I need 8 opcodes per comparison, so as long as
there's 24 possible moves or less it can be played on
the blockchain
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 20 hours, 20 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <mike_c> more like "humans" freak out when
they don't understand something. when people ask me about why
the market moved I give
them
the
time-tested answer: God.
mircea_popescu: "viscous personal attacks" dub ?! quick, call
the interwebs poleese.
poutine: It is possible
to play a game on
the blockchain where
there's a limited amount of moves. Chess would be
too complicated, checkers might not be
mircea_popescu: kinda funny how self important
those fuckwits are jeez.
mircea_popescu: omfg check out
the complex excel sheeting for 5btc or w.e it is
gribble: mrwdunne was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 3 days, 1 hour, 38 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <mrwdunne> US doesn't have a very good
track record when it comes
to human rights and
terrorism.
Their judgement was probably
the correct one
mircea_popescu: benkay: didn't mpif have a float of n at
t=0 and
then shortly
thereafter had a float of n + m? << 1mn,
then as
that sold out 2mn
mircea_popescu: jurov: UKs first exchange with access
to
the banking system... but..we're actually doing casino first? << is
this
that dunne guy
that was here recently ?
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete
that's in like, palenque in mexico, arenal in cr etc.
tourist
traps with shitty pipes. otherwise not a concern.
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in
the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered
to receive ratings.
poutine: I followed
the instructions for a regular
transaction, but instead of
the normal pay
to pubkey/scripthash, I just put in my own script
punkman: mircea_popescu: maybe you should put some cryptograms in
the blockchain
punkman: thestringpuller: well now you can ask poutine
to write it :P
poutine: There were 3 valid scripts
that would have redeemed
that
tx
assbot: Bitcoin
Transaction 95de640457b7bcfc4608d84f84542efc40cc7ee7761dd6c7102bc0b36f0d9d51
punkman: poutine, how do you answer
the puzzle?
poutine: was seeing if
there were any loose
transactions on
the blockchain I could claim with a little bit of brainpower
assbot: Bitcoin
Transaction 15c2b9bc3b93e0c0a037c5fa8402d0e34e13d3bb0ce7fca65888e5d24e597dcc
poutine: pankkake, I make custom
txes, and was going
through some strange
transactions and saw it
punkman: poutine, what else have you seen in your
travels
pankkake: lol indeed. how did you find
that one?
poutine: you get: "!SHOUTOUT
TO #BITCOIN-ASSETS "
poutine: if you click "advanced" at
the bottom, and
then
take
the script output: echo "2153484f55544f555420544f2023424954434f494e2d415353455453202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020" |xxd -p -r
poutine: nah it's a bitcoin nonstandard
tx
that someone put an ascii message in
poutine: with a shout out
to
this channel
assbot: Bitcoin
Transaction 2bb7e8720356f79a9005488a529ab12d6f516879b2357224204cb5f2b780fd02
punkman: the guy
that lost 50btc on jd: <pippin> At least I have a reason
to
try at school now lol, any delusions of being rich just went out
the window.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu>
turns out, an aligator was
trying
to
traverse
the sewage got himself stuck. << woah!
fluffypony: the way I read his post was: "if you feel like pissing your money into
the
toilet, please use my
toilet. Personally, I don't
think pissing money into a
toilet is a good idea. I don't piss money into
the
toilet much."
pankkake: " You may have cost yourself a lot of respect from
the community."
fluffypony: he should've promised "guaranteed rewards" like most of
the IPOs
pankkake: but you gotta be upset at someone else
than yourself
pankkake: eh "For me,
the pain of losing is so much stronger
than
the joy of winning
that I mostly don't play."
pankkake: I haven't seen any casino owner
try
to dissuade gamblers as much as dooglus
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assbot: Distraught Redditor debates whether
to gamble
their life savings. Owner of Just-Dice shows up and chimes in: "If you
think a 49.5% chance of having 100 BTC is better
than a 100% chance of having 50 BTC,
then betting it all on a double-or-nothing at Just-Dice is
the way
to go." Decides
to bet; loses. : Bitcoin
fluffypony: dooglus: for what it's worth, I
think
they're utterly moronic,
they're reacting as if
they didn't read
the second part of your comment
thestringpuller: jurov: wow reddit is angry at dooglus "Dooglus, as
the owner of Just Dice, you should not have said anything
to
them whatsoever, due
to conflict of interest. You may have cost yourself a lot of respect from
the community."
assbot: dooglus comments on I'm finally out of
the red
jurov: mp wrote "mpex will not let you pay fewer shares
than
there are"
benkay: didn't mpif have a float of n at
t=0 and
then shortly
thereafter had a float of n + m?
benkay: <mircea_popescu> so you get mpex-audited float every
time yoyu pay a dividend. << wait but as in
the case of mpif, a malicious broker could issue more shares and not pay
to
that float, as mpex doesn't enforce
that divs be paid
to
the whole float which you say is a feature but my
tiny brain still percieves as a bug
benkay: <mircea_popescu> benkay:HeySteve: nonsense. << it's not nonsense in any way. naked shorts are
the instrument of evil. women should be always naked, shorts always covered.
the us is doing it exaclty backwards. << you'll note i came around eventually.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> benkay: afaik
there's no way
to evaluate
the float on mpex. you just gotta
trust mircea_popescu. << no,
this is why
the dividend payments work
the way
they do. mpex will a) not let you pay fewer shares
than
there are and b) issue you a signed receipt which includes
that number. << contract also spells it out.
benkay: HeySteve2: you're connected
to channels before your hostmask gets applied fyi
benkay: oh for an arch
that did s-exps in hardware
benkay: but how did
they protect against piracy?
benkay: hey wait, weren't
the legendary symbolics environments of yore closed source as well?
benkay: <BingoBoingo> mircea_popescu: I'm not sure if
they are
the worst... Databases suck pretty bad. // let me
tell you about
this magical closed source database i own...
benkay: <mircea_popescu> obtw, speaking of steak. i had some fucking INCREDIBLE steaks
these past
two days. i am fucking humbled, you can not begin
to imagine
the steaks in
this fucking
town. omfg. <<
told you.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.14396835 BTC
to 8`915 shares, 24049 satoshi per share
decimation: After
the last of
the mob wondered past, one of
the nearby bums shook his head and mumbled "only in America" and shuffled back
to his campsite
decimation: several of
them climing over various obstacles, attempting
to scale
traffic lights, overturn
trash cans, etc..
decimation: I stopped
to watch at Farragut Square park, which is full of bums.
The bums all gathered on
the street
to watch
the procession. First, came 50 or so so policemen riding on Harleys. Next, a sad mob of a few hundred youths protesting
the "prision state"
decimation: apparently in
the US
they can only clog
traffic in
the capital city
decimation: at least Putin is able
to put motorcycle
thugs
to useful work in Ukraine
assbot: Putin's rockin' & rollin' on a Harley
Trike - YouTube
decimation: asciilifeform: If you are in PG county,
that's pretty much
the most corrupt county in
the most corrupt state of
the US