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asciilifeform: kakobrekla: faster, yes. but it is a misconception that the purpose of smbx boxes was to 'run lisp fast'
mike_c: a guy i knew who had bad symptoms swore by the sunken kinesis
asciilifeform: the amount which the latter sucked helped to destroy the market for lisp systems in general
mike_c: Mats_cd03: two groups of good ergonomic keyboards. 1) raised & split (http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/natural-ergonomic-keyboard-4000), or 2) sunken and split (http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage-for-pc-mac/)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: by the time symbolics co. figured out how to manufacture such a machine at reasonable cost, it was too late. lisp systems on cheap crapboxes, despite being nothing comparable to the 'turtles all the way down' stack from smbx, were firmly entrenched.
ThickAsThieves: i do much less intensive computer usage now though
ThickAsThieves: i used to have pains and worry that i'd get it too
Mats_cd03: mike_c: any keyboard recommendations? I'm trying to teach dragon so i can use it for everything but its fucking useless for coding
kakobrekla: asciilifeform and the airplane thingy was a part of the problem, no?
mike_c: given that i have big hands, a sizable mouse is a must for me
pankkake: same as mike_c. I think just changing radically can help, though of course getting things that are more ergonomic is also good
asciilifeform: designed for 'cost is no object' people. sold for roughly the price of a small airplane.
mike_c: Mats_cd03: the ergonomics of my keyboard & mouse make a huge difference for me. also the angles from my elbows to wrists to hands while working.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the 3620 is actually very atypical for the tech of those days. not a 'microcomputer' in any real sense. for instance, there's a motorola '68k' in there - just to direct the boot process and for nothing else!
kakobrekla: yes im familiar with the tech from those days
ThickAsThieves: i think that was an improvement
Mats_cd03: yeah: i sleep on my back with my arms extended, I wear a brace at night, and i take breaks regularly. its gotten worse
ThickAsThieves: she's still techincally disabled though
ThickAsThieves: but it was several surgeries and years of trying different things
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: when the 3620 came out, howard cannon (symbolics co.), a strong fellow, famously danced with it on a stage, claiming 'first man-portable lisp machine!'
ThickAsThieves: my mom went thru all that carpal tunnel surgery shit
Mats_cd03: DotA is entirely to blame for the state of my nerves, I've probably played 8000 games in my life
pankkake: have you tried simply changing/fixing your usages?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: it weighs about 60kg. and same for the console. (you need both to use it.) and can't even be guaranteed to survive shipping.
Namworld: I recommend cutting them off and having new hands and wrists grown.
Mats_cd03: I've been informed that 50 percent of people don't experience any change after surgery, and of the remaining 50%, only half report mild reduction in pain
pankkake: is there a treatment? besides waiting it out
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the older one (that is, the actual symbolics 3620, not the dec alpha box running emu)
kakobrekla: you will be selling those two machines?
Mats_cd03: Anyone dealing with carpal tunnel that has recommendations on treatment?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: no secret. i no longer need the machine for anything (satisfied with emulator)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i keep meaning to sell the entire collection
asciilifeform: posted the results, then some (german?) folks published a converter box.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: at one point i reverse engineered the older keyboard; then found that the newer one uses same electrical protocol
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: don't bring logic to the illogical
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: a lot of the hospital data systems are ancient and require < IE 8 to work
asciilifeform: there were, i think, two dozen people who solved
asciilifeform: Mats_cd03: fellow named Curt Yarvin wrote an elaborate programming language / runtime env. / replacement for dns and http. and sold namespace for substantial money. but earlier he handed out parcels of address space to folks who participated in a contest - which is where i got mine.
asciilifeform: Mats_cd03: long story. might want to read 'urbit' documentation. but they are not called 'dukedoms' any more - now they are called 'aircraft carriers.'
asciilifeform: i don't know much else about the fellow, except that he famously burned his u.s. passport in public.
asciilifeform: fluffypony: afaik, no. but, interestingly, i first heard of him when he came to buy my urbit 'dukedom' - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352
assbot: Mike Gogulski Might Be the First Case of Successful Voluntary Statelessness | VICE United States
Mats_cd03: I wonder if the bum without a country is in the Web of Trust
pankkake: I like to watch things cleaning
asciilifeform: watching sewer pipe cleaning was more interesting than the linked reddit turd.
mike_c: the sky is blue. water is blue. you die if submerged in water. therefore, the sky is deadly.
punkman: I wanted to make a bitbet about mp getting banned on twitter, but twitter does not indicate bans afaik
punkman: "A mentally ill narcissist is making death threats and you say there's no danger? Just a few days ago a mentally ill narcissist was making death threats on YouTube and ended up going on a killing spree."
kakobrekla: lol that thread
Apocalyptic: "Andreas Antonopolous the bitcoin high priest participated in Neo&Bee, vouched for Mark Karpeles, vouched for Charlie Shrem, promoted a few altcoin scams and works for shady scumbag Roger Ver"
pankkake: and who the fuck doesn't know openbsd exists
assbot: cryptonaut420 comments on Please report this person to twitter. They are threatening Andreas saying they will kill him.
pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26o47f/please_report_this_person_to_twitter_they_are/cht3cay god they can't even check that this was pre-heartblead
diametric: that thread is glorious
diametric: mircea_popescu: have the twitter police come for you yet
Apocalyptic: wow 220 comments for that reddit thread
ThickAsThieves: thank you princessnell, when the bug bites me to continue the work, I'll surley be in touch
ThickAsThieves: what important things are andreas and followers getting back to? evangelism?
ThickAsThieves: princessnell i did get your message the other day, been sick and out of focus
assbot: Goldman Sachs Predicts the World Cup Winner - MoneyBeat - WSJ
mircea_popescu: so am i banned off twitter yet ?
davout: haha totally
mircea_popescu: mine works too omg hateur
princessnell: good bc those are some tuff dudes
mircea_popescu: and so since i'm paying for security detail anyway, might as well put this to use : let them do the same if they want to talk to me on equal terms.
mircea_popescu: because you see, irrespective of what the crowd of nobody thinks, rich people sitll can't simply leave the door open relying on some sort of universal humanity.
mircea_popescu: princessnell, no because if i went to such a thing i'd get a set of bodyguards anyway
princessnell: so MP are u sad that u can't attend any awesome btc conferences now that andreas' army is flexing their harrassment policy against yr triggering statements??
pankkake: "How can you trust a homophobe?"
pankkake: davout: I was just going to point out that one, it still cracks me up
kakobrekla: ::rate davout -2 said faggot twice
peterl: thanks guys, that helped
mircea_popescu: davout, apparently someone is trying to. i was kinda shocked myself
davout: do people even use forum trust?
mircea_popescu: saltyspitoon may also have a usable forum chain trust
ThickAsThieves: i check the forum maybe once every few weeks just in case there is random customer support needed for old stocks
peterl: I don't expect to trust the ratings, but it would be nice to see scammers come up red as I look through their threads
fluffypony: they're not here tho
fluffypony: peterl: try tomatocage or KWH - they both actively use it
ThickAsThieves: you are already in the place to find trustworthy people
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves, you still working on the forum ?
mircea_popescu: i think he's the only one left still putting actual plain effort into derptalk.
ThickAsThieves: i negrated some folks others didnt have balls to, but meh
pankkake: I still have it in my list, but this gives + to tradefortress
mircea_popescu: ah. that may be out of bounds, but maybe davout ?
pankkake: unfortunately mpoe-pr's trust list isn't very up to date
peterl: I dont just want somebody who has positive trust, but somebody who actively looks for other people to trust/distrust
mircea_popescu: so you can prolly use that
ThickAsThieves: the face is a total equation
mircea_popescu: peterl, mpoe-pr actually used to use it
fluffypony: peterl: I have positive trust there, not much but enough to get a green number
ThickAsThieves: but i have some good trust to start from
kakobrekla: do you trust this beard: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Billy_Mays_Portrait_Cropped.jpg/874px-Billy_Mays_Portrait_Cropped.jpg
ThickAsThieves: peterl, defaulttrust trusts me i think
mircea_popescu: a woman with an uncomfortably compressed pair of doube ds' on a small frame can take a shit on your welcome mat and you'll offer her tp
peterl: anybody use the bitcointalk.org trust system alot? I don't want default trust, but I want to add somebody from here to seed my trust list?
fluffypony: chetty: they're trustless and P2P
mircea_popescu: tits have tolerance built into them
chetty: this may be the only real case of discrimination ...unless of course tits have trust built in too
ThickAsThieves: i shave and i'm like who is this scammer?!