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mircea_popescu: why. because shit doesn't work.
gabriel_laddel: it won't work.. why?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel that's the plan. it won't work, but anyway.
gabriel_laddel: they don't have the same sensibilities, being a different people (*gasp*).
asciilifeform: (and attempt plenty of things that can't)
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i don't specialize in that shit.
mircea_popescu: no, it wouldn't. africa, as unfortunately and politically unpleasant that sounds, probably sucks because genetics.
asciilifeform: thing is, assembling, e.g., pc mobos, isn't mining U at butugychag. you can't get quality performance at bayonet point
asciilifeform: china isn't in a deathcage match against rest of the planet trying for 200 yrs. to render its population for fat and to more easily get at the minerals
mircea_popescu: chinese politburo isn't going around publicly and internationally humiliating us president with a monthly frequency.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: this is simply what usg... is << i actually have a more psychotropic theory. basically, on some subconscious level, us knows it's become uss. and what it wants is, the validation of "well i didn't do anything useful, but at least the stupid thing i did i did WELL". this to be obtained, in the way such nonsense works, by confronting the symbolic representative thereof and "winning".
jurov: so that i don't need to mess with eu vat
asciilifeform: jurov: coinbr doesn't collect fingerprints iirc
danielpbarron: i think my comment was something like "It's possible to achieve 'Perfect forward secrecy' with GPG; you're just retarded. And if it isn't brain damage, I can only assume you have been enlisted on to lizard hitler's payroll"
asciilifeform: 'I simply asked him -- in a private email -- if there was a signature for Convergence someplace because I didn't see any online. He accused me of being "inflammatory" and stated it was necessary to "take a leap of faith" (i.e. download and run it without verification). This was back in 2012, mind you. He appeared to be oddly anti-PGP back then, too. Frankly, after that I had no appetite for any more of his, erm, style and forg
thestringpuller: dat balmer syndrome...one day you're just "Developer developer developers" sweating profusely on a stage and you don't know why.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: cement << the relevant line is from ru poet vysotsky, 'Я тебя не трону, а душе зарою. И прикажу в залить цементом, чтобы не разрыть.' -- 'i won't touch you, but in my soul i'll bury you, and order cement poured so as not to ever dig up'
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: but now can finally pour flondor cement << brutal. you sure you don't want to be a mobster? :D
assbot: I used to dream of a world where everyone would install GPG. Now I dream of a world where I can uninstall it: http://t.co/eRZ0hdlmgx
lobbes: reminds me of the 'bitcoins for all the people in Africa' mantra, and if it can't support that it is somehow 'broken'
mats: hearn and moxie start from the same premise, where tech and crypto are somehow going to paper over deficiencies in human relations and bring useful encryption to everyone everywhere, and somehow gpg is inadequate because it doesn't solve all problems they've imagined but don't actually present as problems to technically capable people
lobbes: "Looking forward, however, I think of GPG as a glorious experiment that has run its course. The journalists who depend on it struggle with it and often mess up (“I send you the private key to communicate privately, right?”)" << lol, this doesn't sound like a problem with gpg. I'll never understand this 'hard-to-use' argument. Just take an afternoon and learn the fundamentals! ☟︎
mats: like XXXmn people on e.g. linux don't rely on it daily
mats: as if Text Secure is usable, has a spec or docs like opengpg, as if mailpile doesn't shell out to a gpg binary
mats: then goes on hn to say he doesn't know what the solution is but shills Open Whisper Systems, Mailpile, LEAP
BingoBoingo: punkman: gpg2 isn't really shipped with anything though because the interface on gpg2 actually sucks
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Still people insert GA in places it doesn't belong
fluffypony: I like GA for the interwebs, it's easy to block if you don't want to be spotted by it
BingoBoingo: cazalla: The porn isn't to his aesthetics.
gmaxwell: cazalla: not my taste doesn't necessarily imply an active dislike. ☟︎
gmaxwell: This channel isn't usually to my taste, but I knew some here would appricate this latest BCF lolspectacular.
gmaxwell: BingoBoingo: nah, it seperately tracks 'counterparty' value, like a colored coin, the bitcoin is irrelevant, and just gets around the fact that bitcoin core won't relay 0 value txouts and miners are lazy and don't change defaults.
gmaxwell: (well the UI doesn't prevent it, but the user appears to have the private key for it.)
gmaxwell: fluffypony: looks like it, hard to tell this system is opaque doesn't seem to be publically documented.
gmaxwell: sadly they didn't use this in round 1 where a real statement could be made by buying all the votes and assigning them to a joke candidate.
gmaxwell: yea, I actually thought there work there more or less made sense; it had some liability (since they couldn't seem to resist letting people think they 'spoke for bitcoin') but it generally seemed to be going okay. Mostly burning pointless peoples pointless time, sure; but it was nice having _someone_ in combatting all the really agressive fud that some 'bitcoin alternatives' are slinging.
punkman: well at least they didn't do another fork to implement colored voting coins or whatever
asciilifeform: at least, not if you don't want.
mats: SS didn't get stomped multiple times and asked to enjoy it.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller part of the reason it doesn't matter is that nasdaq would like it to.
cazalla: you won't sleep with me? ya fucking slut!
thestringpuller: microsoft can't get a break (ms owns skype now rite?)
mike_c: turbogears2 looks good too.. i have some vague memory of not liking sql alchemy for some reason, but that was awhile ago and i can't remember why.
mike_c: or for webdevs that don't want to rebuild every wheel
thestringpuller: django is good for marketing teams who need to deploy content fast and don't have IT
mike_c: i don't get it. you're saying a novice can use cojure ring and not hurt himself?
jurov: pity more people don't use turbogears2. i have found it quite usable, with documentation uptodate and keeps improving
ascii_field: last i checked, php wasn't mandatory
mike_c: didn't you write bitbet in PHP?
cazalla: shame you can't todd gack someone on reddit with a few thousand satoshi
mircea_popescu: the gays got their way with marriage prior to the freeze, but that's it. pedos aren't getting theirs. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i didn't say that eh.
ascii_field: (expect mircea_popescu to retort 'throw the damn thing out' but i'll note that they aren't exactly in limitless supply - nor do we yet know of an alternate box that is)
nubbins`: pret-t-t-t-t-y sure i've got an FTDI adapter here somewhere
nubbins`: so i don't need it unless i do, in other words
mircea_popescu: they aren't thinking per se anymore than an ashtray is a party.
ascii_field: folks who mention 'alexandria' aren't usually objecting to burning books per se
gabriel_laddel: "You don't need to take my proposal seriously because it is so ridiculous that I am obviously completely out of touch with the real world. But that kite won't fly, for I know the real world only too well: the problems of the real world are primarily those you are left with when you refuse to apply their effective solutions. So, let us try again."
gabriel_laddel: I now have had my foggy crystal ball for quite a long time. Its predictions are invariably gloomy and usually correct, but I am quite used to that and they won't keep me from giving you a few suggestions, even if it is merely an exercise in futility whose only effect is to make you feel guilty."
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2015 19:20:08; thestringpuller: https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4/status/570067969130110977/photo/1 << d00d can't decipher sarcasm?
mircea_popescu: it mixes two things that can't be in the same sentence.
mircea_popescu: this can't ever be a point.
ascii_field: but electromobile's energy doesn't come from the gods
ascii_field: it is deceptively easy to avoid the problems of usg academia if you aren't trying to deal with the question of how folks are to eat. just like it is very easy for an electromobile to 'not pollute' - superficially - because it lacks a tailpipe
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mircea_popescu: why we don't want to all apply the same scoring criteria for people ?
mircea_popescu: scammers can't control a wot specifically because it's a wot.
ascii_field: and who doesn't
ascii_field: doesn't vote
ascii_field: and couldn't possibly enter
ascii_field: al schwartz, for example,. wasn't in it
mircea_popescu: not merely the "don't run code not in your wot".
danielpbarron: i don't even know what that means
ascii_field: whaddayamean you don't have a dedicated monitor for /var/log/messages
mats: i don't recognize any names on their about page
ascii_field: esp. how al's problem isn't fixable with money
mircea_popescu: mats it doesn't even load on my system, so there is that.
mircea_popescu: "o look, we're stupid therefore carnot cycle doesn't exist"
gabriel_laddel: (allow me to retract "flip out" - they don't address any of the arguments, say that it pattern matches for 'crank'. I point out that this isn't an argument and that every sentence is clearly falsifiable. Conversation terminates.)
ascii_field: got enough of a squeak out of him to learn that he's alive, but he doesn't sit on the net much these days
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: folks aren't signing up for uni because of employment, but as a temporary reprieve from... what comes next
mircea_popescu: those aren't people.
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mircea_popescu: thestringpuller guy's just trying to matter, i wouldn't read too much into it.
thestringpuller: https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4/status/570067969130110977/photo/1 << d00d can't decipher sarcasm? ☟︎
punkman: mircea_popescu: it was great when they weren't all "no kid left behind"
mircea_popescu: punkman thats exactl;y how it works everywhere, romania, france. "bacalaureat" is the proper term, tho prolly greeks don't use it ?
punkman: I didn't explain well before, here's how it works: 1. last year of high school you, national exams. 2. you make ordered list of unis you'd like to study at 3. exam grades and minimum grade for each uni are published. 4. congratulations, you got your 27th choice.
mircea_popescu: imo this is the mark of a good exam. if you don't get 1 female suicide out of 1k, you'e not really doing an exam.
gabriel_laddel: t about this young man. His net worth of 607MM should say a lot to."
mircea_popescu: anyway, thank god dijkstra died and i don't have to read 2014 abominations from him like i have to read 2014 "manifest destiny" abominations from buffett.
gabriel_laddel: It seems to me that again, the basic mechanism is the same. But then again, I wasn't there, and surely cannot comprehend the suit fetish in its full absurdity.
mircea_popescu: "so they why aren't you ? why is it still the same three kiddie pools you're threading all over ? they're muddy and green ffs!" "sshh!"
mircea_popescu: wasn't dijkstra dead tho ?
pete_dushenski: and what child doesn't think that they're the centre of the known universe ?
pete_dushenski: and yet, they don't leave
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski "it wasn't a diary kibbutz, it was a bombs and explosives kibbutz. DIE GREAT SATAN!!!"
mircea_popescu: i don't think it ever reached the level. i mean it's been trying, ever since the 80s winter games etc. but...
mircea_popescu: http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-bans-explicit-adult-content-from-blogger-blogs/ << heh. aren't you glad you followed trilema biases and never touched that shit.
pete_dushenski: ok so 'the place' isn't uni ? what is it ?