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mircea_popescu: Naphex: no point in delusioning yourself forever with outsourcing, and clouds, and virtual stuff << exactly. and at
this point i can't
tell if xml is
trolling or serious.
pankkake: I use giteub -
teub is verlan for bite
pankkake: indeed, cars used
to be cool and got you
the girls
fluffypony: "Q: Sometimes I get redirected
to another site called “organicmoneyfarm”, what
the?" LOL!!
mircea_popescu: xe4l: can always get a cage at EQ and swap
the locks out << actually most midrange dcs don't let you swap locks out
fluffypony: jurov: ponies have never been cool, I'm
the eternal hipster
pankkake: reverse seems
to be
the only non standard
thing in cars
fluffypony: I find automatics very jarring and disconcerting
to drive, lol
jurov: had
to read
the manual for 10mins
jurov: could not figure out how
to put it in reverse
jurov: lol when i got for first
time a (rented) car with automatic gear
mircea_popescu: i wonder what % of github
traffic can actually boot a physical machine in any arbitrary os provided
they get
the distro.
fluffypony: so I link
them
to mintcoin files in
the X11coin github repository
mircea_popescu: fluffypony, give
them a link
to
that
team of muppets, lemme find it
mircea_popescu: jurov, i can't imagine
there aren't piles of strange in
there.
jurov: mircea_popescu: it's kinda reverse of
the schema of mpex proxies you have posted
mircea_popescu: i don't
tend
to spy on allies (unlike
the us, let it be pointed out) and so i guess
that's one
thing
to look forward
to once he's extradited
mircea_popescu: jurov: so i had
to hide
them behind some layers... and using physical machines for all of
them whould prohibitively expensive << actually
the one secret in all of btc i;m most curious about is
the complete schematics of
the rat's nest jurov no doubt built.
fluffypony: because when you want a cryptographically sound solution
to anonymity
mircea_popescu: fluffypony, what i like is how "a core dev" is dropping
the use of his actual name.
mircea_popescu: and even if you do make it huge,
the ops will just start charging you for
THEIR carry capacity, which you've now made a scarce resource
through your managerial incompetence)
mircea_popescu: (you must offer equal capacity, which has a carrying cost on
the books
mircea_popescu: pankkake, economics are economics. i get
that
the large peering networks mostly peer for free, but
that "free" is a hidden cost
pankkake: ovh really did have infinite bandwidth but
they were apparently looking for it
jurov: trouble parsing
that statement
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: I'll be writing
them in Swift << and in a little while you can be known as rapedpony
mircea_popescu: *: Naphex recommends using dedicated servers instead of virtual anything. << im with him jurov. i would guess all
the romanianz on
the internet are with us. which means YOU ARE IN
THE MINORITY. all of youse.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony, basically "the cloud" is just
the new marketing gimmick, used
to be "unmetered access shared servers" in 2004
fluffypony: xe4l: last year I had
to reindex a large database
table (a necessary evil occasionally). I
thought
to offload it
to a VPS provider, Linode or DigitalOcean or someone, so as
to avoid needing
to choke my db server. Needless
to say, 12 hours in
they shitcanned
the VPS slice because of "excessive resource usage".
xe4l: I doubt
theres a single site in
the alexa
top 250
that runs purely off of cloud without basically purchasing
the equiv of a physical box, eg: AWS provisioned vps
mircea_popescu: dub: im struggling with how
this person is profiting from all
this manip^HHHrket making << i don't see how it could be a single person, it makes no sense
xe4l: things I wanted
to rapidly scale based upon demand
xe4l: agreed, but
that's not
the use case of virtual servers really
mircea_popescu: am i
the only one
that most enjoys writing dismissal letters of all
the letter
types
there are ?
Naphex: i mean whats
this
thing about costs nowadays
fluffypony: is
that a VPS of any measurably decent performance
Naphex: and run
them up and down
pankkake: do romanians pronounce cloud in funny ways
too?
Naphex: most of
their customers are banks, and all kinds of srsfolk
Naphex: but i still doubt
they sell any cloud
Naphex: i
told him
to shove it
Naphex: my AM
tried
to sell me some cloud :)
Naphex: i am very happy with my dc,
they have everything <3
xe4l: Naphex: maybe if your dealing with bottom rate providers, why not build your own edge instead of using whatever blended
they have
Naphex: and recover after
that
xe4l: I've never heard of
that
Naphex: a dc should have proper ddos mitigations, and solutions for ddos/dos. and
the worst case scenario
they should cut your upstream
Naphex: jurov: i've never heard of
threat of explusion from dc, and if you get
that just move. louzy dc
jurov: upo
thread of expulsion from
the dc
jurov: Naphex you do everything properly and
they you get forced
to surrender ssl cert
to cloudflare anyway
xe4l: there's a large disparity in
the skillset of people with a devops
Naphex: yes
the webdevel generation
pankkake: my
time at devops events = oh my god what am i doing here
pankkake: the fact is
that devops don't understand
the first
thing about unix
Naphex: who just want
to run
their shit without every
thinking about anything
Naphex: well
thats just washy washy
xmj: if you're interested in building infrastructure,
that's different
xe4l: The
trick is
to have your dynamic capacity all on
the cloud and use
the hardware for
things requring a high degree of
trust
xmj: Naphex: yep, but definitely more so
than when you outsource
that whole
thing
to someone.
Naphex: xmj: if you pick good hardware and balance rightly
there is not
that much maintainance
xe4l: can always get a cage at EQ and swap
the locks out
xmj: Naphex: I like owned hardware. Co-location and self-owning is factually less expensive. but you'll have
to maintain
the hardware, which can suck.
Naphex: but having datacenters with qualified professinals and an actuall account manger. + guarded access
to
the datacenter
xe4l: I dont't understand
the need for special datacenters
jurov: xmj i'm still pretty much in
the beginning, so far it seems saltstack has more fitting primitives
xmj: jurov: as long as
they have python installed, no problem
jurov: so i had
to hide
them behind some layers... and using physical machines for all of
them whould prohibitively expensive
jurov: and
they must be online
jurov: coinbr needs gpg keys
to
trade on mpex, obv
jurov: well, since
the part(s) running mpexagent is/are at physically hardly accessible place
Naphex: well, it shouldn't be down in
the first place
jurov: but it has some sweet upsides, part of coinbr infrastructure is down all
the
time, i can fix it later when I have
the
time
jurov: because
they don't offer
the one i want?
Apocalyptic: and
they chose on
the most used crypto algorithm
today... behold RC4
jurov: xmj when on every machine is potentially different distro, and even roles of
the machines are different?
Naphex: "Objective-C without
the baggage of C."
fluffypony: although I hear mongoDB is
the best database because even CoinBase uses it