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Naphex: they may do
that,
they may
thing its correct
Naphex: xmj: and
that is in no way a good
thing
Naphex: so
thats
that with
that argument
Naphex: and
thinking about your hardware always counts
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xmj: he
thinks i'm describing a should-state
Naphex: xmj: man no matter what startup or
the funding, knowing your shit is always good
pankkake: it looks like a misunderstanding like only
the internet can create
mircea_popescu: by
the
time
there's laws directing
the proper behaviour in bakeries
the discussion as
to whether
the state failed or succeedded is moot
xmj: pankkake: i
think mircea_popescu is stupid for
thinking i'm stupid for describing reality as it is.
xmj: oh i do agree with
that.
mircea_popescu: not
that far. i;m merely pointing at a certain bit of nonsense you seem
to have accidentally swallowed
mike_c: hehe. i
think we are
talking about limits on freedom. you
think people should be free
to be racist/homophobic. i'm not sure i agree.
mircea_popescu: mike_c, i
told
them
they suck while
there,
too. you don;t know about it because i
told
THEM
mircea_popescu: this is why
there shouldn't be a greater power
than a baker in
the first placre.
mircea_popescu: god help us if i happen
to
think xmj is stupid and xmj happens
to
think i shouldn't happen
to
think
that. what's
that gonna yield, a law against
thinking xmjs are stupi ? enacted by ycombinator ?
mike_c: sure, like you left some space for romanians by leaving. you also wrote a blog post
telling
them
they suck on
the way out.
mike_c: what's
the other option? you don't get
to assign meaning
to anything?
mircea_popescu: anbd you get
to decide which objects carry meanin and which don't and what it is ?
mike_c: sure, i can't count it. but fuck
those 20 guys who did it for dumb reasons
too.
mike_c: that doesn't mean
there was no meaning
to any of it.
danielpbarron: "you better at least pretend
to like gays.. OR ELSE."
mike_c: 100 people go lynch a black guy. yes, 20 of
them only did it because of peer pressure, but 80 of
them did do it because
they hate/fear/whatever blacks.
danielpbarron: because
the lgbt movement isn't about rights; it's
the opposite: it's about forcing acceptance on others
chetty: why would it matter
to you what some other person
thinks? (random person, not friend or anything)
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BingoBoingo: I mean she's now
two wins away from
the
trophy or whatever
the fuck
they play over.
mircea_popescu: so she's going
to 4ever be remember as
that nigger
that didn't need em
to have em :D
mike_c: but
there often is meaning. flag burning is dumb. but refusing service based on race/gay/sex does have meaning.
danielpbarron: why is racism always lumped in with hating homosexuals, and why is hating homosexuals lumped in with homophobia? I'm not afraid of
them, lol
BingoBoingo: I
thought she lost
them, because
they were holding her back
mircea_popescu: mike_c, my point is
that you can't pretend like meaning is immanent. it's not.
mircea_popescu: quite obviously everyone did it
to piss off
the people who get pissed off by
these
things
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You just might win
the Halep bet
mircea_popescu: at any raqte,
the notion
that anyone burned
the flag "because
they hated america" was so fucking ridiculojus back
then
mike_c: so what's your point?
that I shouldn't care about other people's idiocy? or is it
that it isn't stupid
to be racist/homophobic.
mircea_popescu: if
this isn't a sad exercise into becoming everything you've hated about
the stupidity of your parents
mircea_popescu: meanwhile
that progressive left has ossified into a "silent majority", and... well...
trolls are burning black men much
to
their display.
mircea_popescu: it goes much deeper
than
that mike_c. some years ago, in
the days of
the johnny cash,
trolls burned
the flag much
to
the dismay of
the right "silent majority", which was mocked by
the progressive left.
danielpbarron: <+mike_c> well, relatively serious. is
there some other reason you would refuse
to use black figurines? <<
there needn't be any other reason; is it my business or not?
Naphex: and i act accordingly when i see people acting accordingly
to hating animals
mike_c: perhaps
this is inconsistent.
mike_c: some people "hate americans" and act accordingly. I
think
this is retarded, but it doesn't upset me. some people "hate homos" and act accordingly, yet
this does upset me.
mircea_popescu: "behaviour" is a cop out.
the
tendency is
to put meaning into objects, which is a
task for
they who've hunted snipes successfully.
mircea_popescu: if i make
two paper figurines, one black, one red-white aqnd burn both
chetty: hey
they can even draw new ones if
they like, dont change
the stars
mircea_popescu: every culture is free
to create its own set of names for
the constellations wtf.
mircea_popescu: it's such nonsenbse
this,
that your particular meaning is somehow part of objects now.
mircea_popescu: mike_c, i dunno dood, maybe you don't like
the ingredients
that have
to be used
to make it be black.
mircea_popescu: <Naphex> funny
they let me in everywhere dressed in anything when
they see my pockets filled with cash ^.^ <<
this guy has a real cash fetish :D
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> because
then you end up with half your country owning slaves. <<
to
the great benefit of all
those involved.
mike_c: well, relatively serious. is
there some other reason you would refuse
to use black figurines?
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> danielpbarron: you are
trying
to be cute with
the rules, but
that is just bullshit. why do you have
the rule against black figurines? because you hate blacks. << how serious are you ?!
benkay: <Naphex> see benkay knows how
to infiltrate // it's a joo
thing
benkay: <Naphex> see benkay knows how
to infiltrate // it's a joo
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TomServo: BingoBoingo: "if-it's-not-money,-it's-close-enough-for-government-work dept." are
those your words?
BingoBoingo: Eh, /, is
the suck.
They
traded my link for abc news
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: You know
the other planes
that have
the same paint job, but are no where near
the president's location in
the world
chetty: davout, but
thats
the point,
they do it
to push agenda, not
to get cake
davout: i mean,
the whole baker
thing sounds pretty retarded anyway, if i went
to a baker
that refuses jews i wouldn't insist on giving him business
Naphex: see benkay knows how
to infiltrate
benkay: go once, conform
to rules, make friends, spend money, return wearing cap. no problems.
davout: asciilifeform: yeah but it's measurable and not based on *who* wears
the clothing
davout: asciilifeform: i guess it's not really comparable (we have
that
too in france, you need
to be dressed up
to get into nightclubs),
thing is,
the "dressed-up" criteria is based on measurable
things
that are laid out beforehand, not on whether oyu like or dislike someone
xmj: Naphex: I've made
the same experiences, fwiw. once
they notice you're about
to spend decent cash.. attire is secondary
danielpbarron: yeah, clubs in NYC
turn you away for having
the "wrong shoes" which some argue is vailed racism (they are basically saying, blacks don't have nice shoes)
xmj: Naphex:
troll someone else
Naphex: funny
they let me in everywhere dressed in anything when
they see my pockets filled with cash ^.^
davout: mircea_popescu: "which is why
there should be no higher power
than a baker" <<< such amen
danielpbarron: mike_c, what does slavery have
to do with hating blacks??
davout: danielpbarron: in france we have
this "refus de vente" offense, you can't just select your customers if you're selling
to
the general public
chetty: well we have lost 'we reserve
the right
to refuse service'
mike_c: because
then you end up with half your country owning slaves.
mike_c: "so what" is
that a lot of people don't find racism/sexism/homophobia something
to simply be ignored.
danielpbarron: nobody is entitled
to
the service of having a wedding cake made for
them