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mircea_popescu: how slender would she have
to be
to pour me drinks from under scotland's green pine
tree
mike_c: i
think
there's a
t-shirt with
the answer
mircea_popescu: bitcoin does not practice safe sex and how
to fix
this pressing problem
mike_c: but how do we fix bitcoin when
the aliens come?
mircea_popescu: moiety:
this stupid slenderman crap is going
to be made into some crap film at some point, wont it << if
the us weren't out of money, it would habve been.
mircea_popescu: great way
to become functionally identical
to any woman.
punkman: ECDSA is what btc uses, ECDH is another
thing
Naphex: must've missed
th epoint
Naphex: thats why you do ECDH
to factorize instead of just EC
diametric: or can i bruteforce
this with a python script.
diametric: i wonder if
they implement captcha or ip banning on multiple failed attempts
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic, "in
the general case" versus "in any practical case"
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mircea_popescu: none of
these considerations are wide berth issues such as bach's.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic,
the question is more subtle
than
that. perhaps a better rendering would be "which of rsa, ec is more likely
to have
tiny pores we don't kjnow about"
Apocalyptic: Bach proves: 1) If you can compute log. modulo $N$, you can factor $N$ 2) If you can factor $N$ and compute logs modulo each factor,
then you can compute logs. modulo $N$
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, Eric Bach wrote a paper about
this
Apocalyptic: mike_c, indeed, i'm
talking in curves over GF(p), with p prime
mircea_popescu: in general
the fewer customers you have
the better your product can be
mike_c: Apocalyptic:
there are also considerations around which curve you use. i believe certain curves are known
to be weak.
Naphex: picking out
the good from
the bad should be a skill everyone has, but
that ain't gonna happen
mircea_popescu: the problem with commodization is
that it destroys quality.
Naphex: maybe as an experiment, who knows
the benefit
Naphex: same
thing only condensed
Apocalyptic: is
this
the question "is
the discrete logarithm problem as hard as
the factorization problem" ?
Apocalyptic: "nobody fucking knpows if
this is
true,
this is
the mn dollar question in practical cryptography." wait
Naphex: so why not
turn
that depratment and review into a service
BingoBoingo: Then in about 10 years
the "community" notices
this is a
thing
BingoBoingo: I imagine a cycle stabilizing where MP shames securities scammer, SEC scoops
them up months later.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, im not one
to give last night's calves black eyes, but.... as you say, loing backlog.
mike_c: c'mon, you know ascii knows and just won't
tell
mircea_popescu: mike_c: asciilifeform: do you know if
this is
true? "EC-based keys are just as secure as RSA keypairs" << nobody fucking knpows if
this is
true,
this is
the mn dollar question in practical cryptography.
BingoBoingo: I
thought settling with Erik over GLBSE shennanigans was helping,
they have quite
the backlog of stuff
to catch up on... Gigavps,
Thermos, et al..
mircea_popescu: ;;later
tell Phinnaeus: I'm curious as
to when Micrea had
that pic
taken where he's in front of
the pyramid on a horse. << 2003 iirc.
mircea_popescu: nao if only
the sec would be making more definite steps
towards halping
mircea_popescu: usagi hotwallet method:to a hot array of failing hard disks is added a bitcoin wallet, and all backups. Hotter coffee is added splashwise until
the hot wallet becomes cold. << ahahaha SPLASHWISE!
mircea_popescu: i also wonder how long before i'll be
the oldest guy in bitcoin, between people pulling
the satoshi melt-in-mists
trick on one hand and
the 5years up
to your room erik
trick
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You also have
to understand. Of
the relatively early Bitcoiners MP is practically a saint. << i
thought i had a bad reputation.
Naphex: so what language are you speaking over
there
though?
mircea_popescu: anyway,
there's a mega band
thing with drums and butt shakings marching down
the street
mircea_popescu: fluffypony, i guess you just explained xapo's vp for asciilifeform
too.
fluffypony: More near computer illiterate people like be are going
to be buying BTC, and Coinbase seems like
the safer and simpler option."
fluffypony: 6. A hacker who is %1000
times smarter
than you is watching your every move and will steal all your bitcoin if you slip up.
fluffypony: 5. Use a submarine
to bury
the vault in
the ocean.
fluffypony: 4. print private key and public key, but not semi-private key. Laminate printed copies and store in a vault along with 3 of
the 4 USB drives. But be sure not
to run EFkjlwef foeropwerk.
fluffypony: "I know most of you scoff at
the idea of storing BTC on Coinbase, but I am not nearly as
technologically inclined as most of you. Each storage suggestion I read looks
to me like
this:
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: mp
tells
the sec
to get stuffed,
they shrug and
then do exactly
that << what did you expect'd happen ? a bureaucrat is perhaps
the finest detector of who has
the bigger stick in existence.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: BingoBoingo: i actually had wondered why $15k plus damages -- didn't realize until you pointed out
that
they didn't
touch s.dice << yeah, funny how
that worked huh.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Also
to
the CoinDesks, it is
the only one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo:
the buggers'
traditional defense is
to pretend
that
the event was a non-event - or, if
this is impractical,
to continue living in an imaginary world where
they 'scooped'
the story first, and all of
the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened. << pretty much. a dangerous gambit, of course, as
the world also goes about its business scarcely
taking notice of
their efforts.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It isn't
that
there is benefit derived from it. It is
that when we can beat
the Coindesks
to
the aggregators, it injures
them in ways only
they can rationalize. << wow
that's an unexpected point.
BingoBoingo: Large underground workspace with elevator apparatus capable of lifing vehicles,
the industrial uses are endless
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Still, would be a nice "workshop" setup if
the location was better
BingoBoingo: "The 14-acre site includes 3 underground concrete bunkers, each approximately 68’ x 76’ and 18’ deep with 10’10”+- ceiling clearance.
The 3 bunkers have 9’6” x 53'8” elevator pads which are operational."
fluffypony: ah, got excited about Nike's diversification program
there for a moment
mircea_popescu: Daniel_Krawisz, also,
the entire length of endless discussion
to date is
to be found in
mircea_popescu: gotta make one of
those,
then you can auto voice yourself.
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in
the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered
to receive ratings.
mircea_popescu: most clients can be configured
to also ding when
that happens
Daniel_Krawisz: If I see
text in red, does
that mean only I can see it?
fluffypony: Daniel_Krawisz: I'm not a MLP fan at all, I just got given
this nick years and years ago and it stuck
Daniel_Krawisz: Thanks, I loved your
thingy about
the critical
theory doctorates who had
to clean
the bus with
their
tits. It reminded me of Rabelais.
Daniel_Krawisz: I was
the person quoted in
the Forbes.com article on MaidSafeCoin if
that's
the quote you meant.
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Naphex: to
try
to get him
to approve withdrawal
Naphex: omg,
this scammer even contacted acount owner
mircea_popescu: infinite hitpoints, as a property of
the environment not of
the idiots.
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