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asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'sorry this is a tobacconist, not a colo' ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: also i'm open to shipping something other than pl2303, if anyone has suggestions. ftdi is BANNED because 1) it costs 10x moar than pl2303 2) it is american/tw 3) it has rewritable fw that cannot be disabled
asciilifeform: it is pretty basic 'pons asinorum' of sane hardware.
asciilifeform: who does not have -- cannot. ☟︎
asciilifeform: who has a box that understands plain old circa 1960s rs232 -- can use fuckgoats
asciilifeform: so it is and will forever be a serial device, compatible with e.g. data diode.
asciilifeform: and i will NOT make a rng that doesn't work with msdos box
asciilifeform: i will not make rngs that DEMAND 2way protocol and usb micro ( with the rewritable firmware nonsense ACTIVE AT ALL TIMES , and 50MB pdf of liquishit spec with holes )
asciilifeform: afaik there is not a clean solution to this, other than to burn the pc nonsense to the ground
asciilifeform: problem is that ~nobody has an actual serial port
asciilifeform: phf: i fucking hate usbtoserial dongles
asciilifeform: ugh
asciilifeform: nuts.
asciilifeform: ( i'dve installed onetimefused cpld, but IT DOES NOT EXIST on the market )
asciilifeform: bad enough that the cpld fw is rewritable.
asciilifeform: i dun like having rng that is physically capable of putting out nonrandom.
asciilifeform: for enemy, for dust, for workings of ordinary mechanical failure
asciilifeform: phf: on one hand could be useful, on other -- one more piece for enemy to wedge shut or otherwise manipulate in the post
asciilifeform: pretty odd.
asciilifeform: diana_coman did anything appear ?
asciilifeform: i don't see a mention of anything ~appearing~ in diana_coman's screen -- merely that it doesn't barf from nonexistent tty
asciilifeform: i've been thinking for entire year what is to be done about this, but have conceived of no solution other than THROW AWAY BROKEN OS OMFG
asciilifeform: ( will pass through some bits, but at fraction of rated bandwidth and PATTERNED crapola )
asciilifeform: which in the case of FG means worse-than-useless
asciilifeform: phf: i suspect this will do 0, in buggy pl2303 driver i encountered, it's the bandwidth and flowcontrol setttings that didn't take. but other than that adapter behaves normally
asciilifeform: i picked pl2303 because it is the most afaik widely supported, but apparently not even it worx everywhere ☟︎
asciilifeform: do you have a ftdi or other type of ttlserial cable in the house ?
asciilifeform: betcha it's a buggy pl2303 driver.
asciilifeform: hm now that's odd
asciilifeform: it's a fuckknowswhat
asciilifeform: at this point i'd say that ubuntu is not a linux and explicitly unsupported...
asciilifeform: ugh
asciilifeform: the canonical test is dd if=/dev/yourfg | hexdump -C -v
asciilifeform: screen will not necessarily show anything if you feed it 8bit garbage
asciilifeform: 2) then switch back, and switch only the cables.
asciilifeform: 1) switch the entire ensembles places
asciilifeform: ( i expect that most purchasers throw away the usb cables )
asciilifeform: entirely possible that you got a defective cable, i do not test the cables, only the FG
asciilifeform: b/w the working and the sad one
asciilifeform: switch the serial cables from one to the other
asciilifeform: red lamp on FG lit ? flickers ?
asciilifeform: '0 bytes copied' ?
asciilifeform: when you ctrl-c , what's it say ?
asciilifeform: screen won't tell you this
asciilifeform: yes it sees the tty. but FG puts out ~arbitrary~ octets (yes all 8 bits) and the tty gotta work with this without losing what it thinks is 'control chars' (0x13, 0x03, etc)
asciilifeform: what means screen works ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: also double-check your wiring.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: gotta find out how your setup differs from that of mod6 , trinque , ben_vulpes , danielpbarron , et al
asciilifeform: bizeasure
asciilifeform: will be interesting.
asciilifeform: ty shinohai .
asciilifeform: i go tomorrow, but did not want to save this for last hour.
asciilifeform: thaaat was surprisingly painless. kudos to trinque .
asciilifeform: !!down ascii_in_orcland
asciilifeform: !!v 33D562770A1D875C86DEF14AB67A890D9A0DF335D383E3F3F5C0173FE1F36327
asciilifeform: !!rate ascii_in_orcland 1 a voyagekey of asciilifeform, inquire within
asciilifeform: !!up ascii_in_orcland
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: see my measurements patch, and output, on the ml.
asciilifeform: still i/o-bound
asciilifeform: it's ~entirely i/o-bound
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and so was dulap, a recent intel with 256G ram and 32core
asciilifeform: it's approx same as 'zoolag'
asciilifeform: lol it's a small opteron
asciilifeform: certainly not since cyrix 486 at any rate
asciilifeform: ( ever wonder why even cheapest shit cpu for pc never used heatsink held with epoxy ? )
asciilifeform: you gotta mechanically decouple the thing from the board somehow
asciilifeform: heavy heatsink held with conductive epoxy is in asciilifeform's experience more often than not a recipe for ripping the chip from the board, balls, tracks, and all
asciilifeform: potentially.
asciilifeform: it has to be pressed by whole board bolted to sumthing, on that one.
asciilifeform: no mounting holes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fans do jack w/out heatspreader
asciilifeform: when you bolt'em to an iron sheet, it gets pressed, so can still use it, but need the iron sheet
asciilifeform: the other problem with those is that they have no heat sink from vendor other than a little aluminum shim that depends on the stock iron case being there
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you don't ~want~ them in too high density
asciilifeform: was riotously fun
asciilifeform: i have perelman's 'Живая математика', ended up making the cardano grille , making & breaking the usual caesar cipher, etc
asciilifeform: this is how asciilifeform's brother taught him, with various household detritus
asciilifeform not pro pedagogue
asciilifeform: ' if these pair are opposite -- this is a 1 ' etc
asciilifeform: can show with pennies on a table
asciilifeform: diana_coman: imho otp is actually simple enough to teach a kid
asciilifeform remembers the copybook : 'a wolf sits under a tree and sings a long song' etc
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-19#1727094 << 5 is when they started asciilifeform on englishism ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-19#1727076 << 'throws imaginary coin very, very quickly' ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-19#1727091 << this is useful ! can be filled with, e.g., N pcengines boards ( they by default sell without the iron case ) ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1533 << subj
asciilifeform: waaaaitasec phf , whaddayamean no genesis ?!
asciilifeform: ( or see generic 'xenopatriot' pg on dramatica or was it the ru one )
asciilifeform: roaboo
asciilifeform: rotaku
asciilifeform: nuts
asciilifeform: so he's the... ro version of 'otaku' ?!
asciilifeform: that'd explain buncha things
asciilifeform: wait d00d is american?!
asciilifeform: theories generally oughta pass laugh test imho
asciilifeform: and everybody ate, and it is not mega-mystery what they ate and how...
asciilifeform: and on both sides many moar horses than truck
asciilifeform: most of ww2 red army moved also on foot
asciilifeform: so what's the mystery here