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mdev: since that's relied on with HTTPS all day ever day
mdev: if that alg is weak or they're not sure about its reliability why didn't they use a more trustworthy one like RSA
mdev: don't get why they're so concerned
mdev: sure, but once your public key is out there
asciilifeform moved to different town recently, there are lottery machines everywhere
Naphex: no* transactions
Naphex: mdev: if there are not transaction your pubkey is unavailable
mdev: don't get why that's being used
mdev: the public key argument thing, about it being exposed after the first transaction, not sure why that's an issue, RSA is based off handing out public keys, I know bitcoin uses ECDMA or whatever, but still if the public key can't be trusted
benkay: hah that's a good one asciilifeform
asciilifeform: benkay: hypothesis: the devs have an 'address telescope' (box that continuously generates random addrs/keys) and are the kind of folks who like to play lotto.
benkay: this is why bitcoin-qt wallets go bad after some tens of transactions
benkay: bitcoin "devs" are idiotically and self-destructively committed to this "no reuse" idea, ever since implementing the braindead wallet schema that creates new addrs for your change
pankkake: you can easily see that with coin control features of bitcoin-qt
pankkake: and if you send say 0.1, only one of the two will be used
Naphex: and i want to send 0.5
Naphex: the only option is to use multiple addresses
Naphex: so if you don't want to double spend / or do more then 1 transaction per confirmation
pankkake: but to distinguish transactions the process is : "I want to send 1 BTC" "ok, send me 1.00000832 BTC"
Naphex: you can only move the full amount every time
Naphex: i ment that if you use a single bitcoin address
pankkake: Naphex: you could also do it like MP, with a unique transaction amount
Naphex: also if you do a lot of transactions and don't want to double spend you're going to have to use multiple addresses
Naphex: i'm guessing they just want to stay with the privacy line
pankkake: addresses that never had outgoing transactions are sligthly more secure, as the private key is hidden
mdev: #bitcoin ops quieted me, probably indefinitely because he says bitcoin address reuse is dangerous, even though link after link that i've found, while most discourage it, non i've seen actually say it's dangerous
mdev: privacy and all that is fine
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Naphex: so, mike_c is #bitcoin-assets suposed to kinda work like P2P vc firm?:)
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benkay: we also don't really talk about the stack to non-devs. it's just not relevant about 100% of the time.
cgcardona: teenage mutant ninja turtles no less
Mats_cd03: its turtles all the way down
cgcardona: i remember the site being visually quite nice
benkay: we have a sweet stack, pay pretty well, and don't expect to see people that often.
cgcardona: i worked at Truila for a while and was on the hiring team for the mobile engineering dept. They offered really good salaries, stock, medical, etc and it was still hard to find people in SF
cgcardona: yea finding devs is the most challening thing. when in SF I witnessed many people raise money and then struggle to even find people to build their idea out.
benkay: promoted another lead myself, and had a second fall into my lap via a friend, so the pipeline is not empty either
cgcardona: yes that's one of the best types of feelings
benkay: well, a deal closed and the wire cleared this week so i'm feeling particularly good about that
cgcardona: we were in a small apartment at first but just got into something much nicer and cleaner this week w/ my own office. so this morning i'm particularly stoked :)
cgcardona: pretty good. My family moved from SF back to kauai about 2 months ago and we're finally in the groove. Working remotely w/ a team from the mainland. I'm very happy. thanks for asking. You?
davout: i'm off, ttyal
KRS1: had to laugh at that ..LOVE IT. <+mircea_popescu> you do a shit job and will die hungry at this rate.
mircea_popescu: you do a shit job and will die hungry at this rate.
mircea_popescu: im like fuck you you idiot, what disrespect, we aren't friends, this isnt a fucking social call at your gentlemen's club
mircea_popescu: then i leave and he's like trying to apologize and explaoin he meant no disrespect
mircea_popescu: takes them two hours to pick their nose they're so busy being social.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where he needs it (bathroom) and whjat for (to have light) << the inescapable conclusion is that he needs it: in his arse, and as to what for: to expand his annulus diameter.
mircea_popescu: apparently the guy's phone rang, which ius sufficient cause to interrupr business.
mircea_popescu: then his SHOP ASSISTANT, which he apparently HAD but couldn't be bothered to bother, walks in
mircea_popescu: \then stops completely to derp with this guy, who finally leaves.
mircea_popescu: goes into endless explanation as to where he needs it (bathroom) and whjat for (to have light)
asciilifeform: anyone who wants to know more re: dl or rsa, is advised to... read books.
mircea_popescu: older derp wanders into shop, to buy... a lightbulb.
mircea_popescu: point in case : i go into a tiny shop to have a pile of keys copied. guy starts working.
mircea_popescu: which is not nearly as hard to believe. argentines are fucking lazy.
mircea_popescu: benkay, no, implying that they don't print faster than the yus
benkay: also i would like to borrow some dogecoin. will collateralize etc.
benkay: implying that kirchner et al have stopped printing? kinda hard to b'leev.
asciilifeform: ok since 'everyone' keeps asking, there is no (public) proof that discrete logarithm problem is np-complete. more interestingly, also no rigorous proof that rsa difficulty is equal to that of factoring problem.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, been 11.5ish for two weeks.
mircea_popescu: benkay, you realise the black marketr dollar is more of a future than a spot. i should already see this future collapse in the price today.
mircea_popescu: ;;google vreau sa-mi spui, frumoasa zaraza, cine te-a iubit ; citi au plins, nebuni, dupa tine, si citi au murit.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in ro it's a girl's name, disused since the 1930s.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ><< you familiar with how romanian twists russian words. it's like a sort of trolling.
pankkake: did you guys see kickstarter opened the scamgates?
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mircea_popescu: gotta get some kicks ot the head first.
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> one would think you either grandfather previous listings in, or have a delisting process for them << you think too far ahead to be part of the kickstarter revolution
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> (not that flamingos are mammals...) << one of those moments :D
pankkake: davout: I am not seeing anyone really. I am usually too tired :(
mircea_popescu: <davout> too soft? << lmao
pankkake: Shakespeare: I don't have the knowledge of windows compiles
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benkay: <mircea_popescu> on the other hand, the black market in dollars is stable. // as in price is holding? over what timeframe?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: crappy rc4 encryption and the backend was silly php, forced mistake when you're stuck working with random cheapo hosters << even the most pathetic public ftp can still host an rsa-signed blob for trojan payload. number of crap artists who do 'the right thing'? not 1 in 100.
asciilifeform: zeus trojan << very educational case. zeus is a very poorly designed turd, but it is smashingly popular on account of a thousand spamz0r idiots buying 'custom' builds and paying to have them spammed out to chumps. see also one of mp's old articles on spam being a 'cargo cult.'
benkay: <mircea_popescu> davout: drinking aero-pressed espresso in a mongodb mug << let me ruin your day for you. coffee in argentina ? comes PRE SWEET$ENED. and i don't even mean the bags. i mean the MOTHERFUCKING BEANS;. they sugar-cook them. << i only ever found 1 acceptable cup in bsas
xmj: as i'm most often in company of cashflow-negative startups, i usually add something that lets them save face.
xmj: as that one is most often a no too, i ask how long their company is still funded.
xmj: benkay: it always yields a "no", so my script is to ask if they have paying customers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mastercard told xapo to go fuck itself << if i recall, you're friends with the fellow who runs it, ask him wtf
benkay: <xmj> i'll subtly neg them by asking about their company's economics. "so... are you cashflow positive?" is king. // the subtlety's always lost and generally pointless. their feelings aren't worth protecting. go for the jugular.
fluffypony: source of teh lulz
fluffypony: then again, this is BitcoinBourse
ThickAsThieves: some things were left no fee for a while
fluffypony: one would think you either grandfather previous listings in, or have a delisting process for them
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I don't have a problem with the fees, I have a problem with them suddenly deciding to charge the fees
ThickAsThieves: it's still not enough to make money anyway
davout: meanwhile, btc quietly took 12 eur today
ThickAsThieves: (not that flamingos are mammals...)
ThickAsThieves: like all the smart flamingos are standing around on two legs complaining about the one-leggers all day
davout: we should send them to btctalk
ThickAsThieves: some rhinos and such being at risk for inbreeding, they ship animals around the world, to and fro, to keep a healthy mix
davout: he's the one with the semen
ThickAsThieves: davout, while she has no involvement, organizing inseminations happens to be a large part of her employer's mission
davout: my first thought for "development" of a wildlife development job was organizing inseminations
ThickAsThieves: no, she loves work too much