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chetty: hmm I think most of todays xtians are new testament not old
danielpbarron: a true christian would advocate the stoning to death of a rebellious son, even to this day
mircea_popescu: and so the new religion spread.
mircea_popescu: because that man made a firm promise prenup to never kill her children in this manner.
asciilifeform: i thought even the archaeologically-challenged are at least familiar with the babypit of sparta, say
mircea_popescu: a woman had a positive incentive to mary a christian (this is much pre jesus, btw)
mircea_popescu: and from the stupidity of the illusion of control, as los_pantalones aptly put it, the control theatre
mircea_popescu: and out of this effort to cover screams of children and take their mother's mind off it
mircea_popescu: to cover the screams of the eviscerate dbabes and their badly hurt mothers,
mircea_popescu: and the place's name was... gehenna.
mircea_popescu: to prevent pestilence, they started lkeeping fires going all the time
asciilifeform: thought gehenna was the babypit outside old jerusalem
mircea_popescu: where they did all the killing.
mircea_popescu: \and to improve the ocntrol of this, they found a place, a natural canyon,
mike_c: craziness. good to know people have always been as dumb as they are today.
mircea_popescu: the religion moved to forbid women weeping,
danielpbarron: The Bible says, a rebellious son should be brought to the town elders and stoned to death by the community
los_pantalones: what was the goal of it? illusion of control ?
mircea_popescu: which their raised and dressed the same.
mircea_popescu: the fathers BOUGHT poor kids to kill instead of their own kids.
mircea_popescu: the mothers had serious problems with this. the fathers did to. and yet... cold equations of power.
mircea_popescu: because if you can't prevent it, the only other way to gain some control over it is to do it yourself.
mircea_popescu: so the babylonians started KILLING their children.
mircea_popescu: parents loathe this. and more so in 4000bc than today, for today it's only imagined, whereas then it was a fact.
danielpbarron: mine too
mircea_popescu: a key part of this risk management was the following weird as shit aspect :
mircea_popescu: turns out, among the many things the ancient babylonians invented, such as the seals, and commerce,
danielpbarron: of the brain
danielpbarron: DXM is very trippy and is alleged to cause lesions
mircea_popescu: wish you to hear an ancient story ?
danielpbarron: they replaced the codeine with DXM
mircea_popescu: mike_c, btw, the "mom did spanking" part is extremely important for the WOMAN's mental health.
ThickAsThieves: it's a little known trick
ThickAsThieves: ever have someone cup their hand over yours and press inward on your fingernails while the hand is closed?
ThickAsThieves: my dad did this neck pinching and hand-squeezing thing
mike_c: no. my father never hit me (mom did spanking), but i was more scared of him than her.
mircea_popescu: ancestral tho.
danielpbarron: doesn't that warface have to come with the memory that i usually is followed by a beating?
mike_c: point being if they are single digits you should be able to silence them with your warface.
mircea_popescu: (actually what i said iirc was that if it's needed you suck a sa parent, which ... well... yeah)
danielpbarron: exactly; they give kids these pills which does damage to their brain; andd that's supposed to be more humane than a beating of the ass??
mircea_popescu: is that what they market codeine as ?
mircea_popescu: well i can see that :)
danielpbarron: beating a child is much more human then giving them a chemical lobotomy
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> what do i care if he wants to roll on the ground at the mall and scream? go for it. << you care because if you didn't you'ds have married a chimp instead of his mother.
mircea_popescu: which is what they're wired to avoid
danielpbarron: all are born wicked; that needs to be beaten out
mike_c: help what? beating is attention, which is what they want.
mircea_popescu: mike_c, no, you just beat it until it's too scared to scream.
danielpbarron: i agree; spare the rod, spoil the child
asciilifeform thonk. flap, flap. thonk.
kakobrekla: hm ok although you dont seem terminally sad.
mike_c: what do i care if he wants to roll on the ground at the mall and scream? go for it.
mike_c: idk that beatings help. i think i will just go with ignoring in that situation.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: 'webtv' was this '90s gizmo for the terminally sad
mircea_popescu: re that link : i had this nutty discussion with a guy at the mall in timisoara, his 4 yo kid was throwing an absolute tantrum on the ground
mike_c: "“Let’s put aside for the moment that by far, the most dangerous thing you did to your child that day was put him in a car and drive someplace with him. About 300 children are injured in traffic accidents every day — and about two die. That’s a real risk"
mike_c: she made national news for letting her 9 yr old ride the subway alone
mike_c: from punkman's link on leaving your child in the car
mircea_popescu: did the angels name her ?
mike_c: ooh, i like this lenore skenazy woman
mircea_popescu: learn to internets!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think you will find that quite a few folks here will join you to party in Ar, as soon as we figure out what to eat there.
asciilifeform: (u.s. fuckwits, as a general rule, don't have the courage to blow up heretics)
mircea_popescu: argentina, meanwhile, wants you to wait *maybe* two years. that's useful.
mircea_popescu: davout, meanwhile one has emerged in conversation. you folks coming to live with me in romania'd have had to wait > 10 years plus for citizenship, making it useless. any attempt to get the foreign minister to commit to making ongoing exceptions predictably failed, not for lack of him wanting to help, but for pure wtf... it's a eu country, it'd have ended up on all the newspapers.
asciilifeform: i gotta say, the fuckwits don't bother me (except on the rare occasions they show up to my door, spamming)
davout: mircea_popescu "moving to norway would make no difference anyway." <<< we're back at criteria to choosing a place to move to :D
mircea_popescu: hopefully the islamists come riding horses, and so the entire population of "France and Belgium were broadly supported by the other countries - Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Britain, the Netherlands, Ireland and Spain " can be sexually satisfied.
mircea_popescu: let's make sure our boys can't compete with their boys, and if push comes to shove our entire country is made of girls.
mircea_popescu: "Officials from the group will hold meetings with "the leading Internet operators" this month to look into the possibilities for immediately shutting down web sites and barring messages that spread hatred or encourage violent militancy or terrorism, the statement said."
mircea_popescu: in other words, religion managed to never bother me anywhere - egypt included - as much as it bothers in the us.
mircea_popescu: that'd be the problem, this "i can do it" atttiude applied to religion. which isn't religion in any sense, unless you count ustardianism as a religion.
mike_c: well, joseph smith did get those golden plates or whatever..
mircea_popescu: and he clearly believed that a bunch of new world fuctards have truely and really discovered something imp0ortant about jesus.
diametric: asciilifeform: well, i think i was more going along the lines of secularism, a lot of the population of JP doesn't identify with any single religion but rather pieces of several
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, that's more a factor of us specific idiocy. there was a fuckwit in the street hre, clearly american, derping about jesus to people. he clearly had a mortgage back home,
mike_c: heh, you mean like religion? the church keep pushing that nuttery everywhere.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa, various brands of nuttery are pushed by the church
diametric: mircea_popescu: i don't like them.
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mircea_popescu: what's so bad about religious people tho ?
asciilifeform: i thought jp holds the record for the latter
diametric: at the time I mostly chose it due to the climate which I'd enjoy, as well as having the least amount of religious people.
mircea_popescu: moving to norway would make no difference anyway.
asciilifeform: doesn't No have the world's currently highest tax...
diametric: I've toyed with the idea of moving to Norway a few times.. but I have far too many things anchoring me here.
danielpbarron: 09:26:55 <+los_pantalones> had a buddy at cryptsy that kept getting negative BTC balances << happened to me too
mircea_popescu: i will further point out that argentine citizenship, unlike romanian citizenship, is a two year affair.
mircea_popescu: do me a personal favour and don't wait for the exit taxes payable in bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: the 2nd best time is today.
mircea_popescu: much like getting into the wot, the best time to have done that is a few years agp
mircea_popescu: diametric, all that stuff aside, asciilifeform, as well as you and everyone else that can form this question or similar questions are well advised to get out of the soviet union.
mircea_popescu: or whatever was the guy'[s name
mircea_popescu: maybe they hired the meanwhile unemployed miranda
mircea_popescu: the endless lines, the mighty scotch pine...
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