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BingoBoingo: So, just called out
the complaintant on my Disorderly charge on
twittter.
Their choices are forgive or fade into irrelevance.
benkay: ;;later
tell mdev logping
benkay: <mdev> well as you said it
took you awhile, and you maybe quite
the clever fellow, so it could
take others even longer. I just don't see
the point, versus letting all participate // "all" sucks.
mike_c: ;;later
tell davout if you want
to see my warface you have
to
try and flip
the switch on my computer's power strip after i've
told you FIFTY
TIMES
to stay away from it.
dub: wich would be easier if
the client worked
dub: that reminds me, still need
to get nxt out of vircurex
assbot: NBA writer /JeffZillgitt for
the win with his quote sheet as if California Chrome was playing in
the NBA Finals
http://t.co/PpJsvFG4pP mdev: well as you said it
took you awhile, and you maybe quite
the clever fellow, so it could
take others even longer. I just don't see
the point, versus letting all participate
Namworld: Well WOT ain't all
that
tricky.
Took me a little while. Once done I was set.
mircea_popescu: methinks you'll have
to spend some
time reading
the previous discussion on
this
topic first.
mdev: lettintg users
talk, without jumping
through hoops, and if
they get out of line
then can devoice or what have you
mdev: versus just
talking...where's
that web of
trust?
mdev: because if
they want
to speak
they have
to voice
themselves, which
to even do
that have
to join some
tricky WOT
thing, and if
they haven't done
that
they have
to burden another user for voice
mircea_popescu: teaching ignorant snots
that out of
the [their ideas,
their shit] set,
the shit element is
the more valuable however is central.
mdev: seems inconvient when majority of
the channel can't
talk
Namworld: Not
that I disagree with what came just before
the little story.
Namworld: The little story just seems
to point
the obvious, aka a good/bad event could end up being a curse/good outcome, respectively.
mdev: besides nothing stopping a spammer from joining, asking for voice, and do
their
thing
mdev: nothing
to be afraid of, big channels don't have anywhere near as locked system like in here, and
they don't get spammed much/ever and if
they do it doesn't last long
mircea_popescu: odds are
taleb wouldn't
think much of your understanding of odds
tho
Namworld: Well
that's a nice little story and all. Although it's
true, odds weren't in favor of
those outcomes.
mircea_popescu: mdev you're not in
thething even already you're improvingit ?
mdev: majority of
the channel has no voice currently
mdev: thanks, is
the auto-devoice necessary? seems like it'd make more sense
that if you
temp voiced another user could devoice you if needbe
mircea_popescu: uoi pensez-vous que cela soit un accident malheureux ? » L’année suivante, la commission des Grands Flandrins arriva dans la montagne. Elle recrutait des hommes forts pour devenir valets de pied de l’empereur et porter la chaise de celui-ci. Le fils du vieil homme,
toujours blessé à la jambe, ne fut pas choisi.
mircea_popescu: au les voisins apparurent, pour le féliciter cette fois-ci de cette aubaine. Mais le vieil homme leur rétorqua : « Pourquoi pensez-vous que cela soit un aubaine ? » Les chevaux étant devenus
très nombreux, le fils du vieil homme se prit de passion pour l’équitation, mais un beau jour il se cassa la jambe. Alors, encore une fois, les voisins vinrent présenter leurs condoléances et à nouveau le vieil homme leur rétorqua :
mircea_popescu: Un vieil homme du nom de Chunglang, qui signifie « Maître des rochers », possédait un petit lopin de
terre dans les montagnes. Un jour, il perdit l’un de ses chevaux. Des voisins vinrent alors lui exprimer leurs condoléances pour ce malheur. Mais le vieil homme leur demanda : « Pourquoi pensez-vous que cela soit un malheur ? » Et voilà que quelques jours plus
tard l’animal revint, suivi d’une horde de chevaux sauvages. À
mircea_popescu: "So I hold
that giving someone a bad risk measure was just as CRIMINAL as giving someone
the wrong medicine. For a long
time nobody sanctioned doctors who poisoned
their patients. Why don’t we
take on
the proponents of quantitative risk management, put
them in jail so
they stop harming us?"
mircea_popescu: ately, but lead people
to
TAKE MORE RISK foolishly
thinking
they know something. [This is
the reason I singled out Fannie Mae in
The Black Swan as a firm sitting on dynamite &
the International Association of Financial Engineers as a society of snake oil vendors harmful
to society]. After > 1
trillion in losses I can safely say
that my statement
that
the banking system has been
taking more risks
than
they
thought SHOULD
mircea_popescu: "Having a risk number is not
trivial. It does lead you
to do foolish
things, even if you knew
that
the measure was wrong. If I can show
that, many people [who offered quantitative risk measures in finance] will have
to be held accountable –& I can show
that! One of Fannie Mae director’s, a quack & proponent of “Modern Finance” charlatanism, kept promoting “scientific” risk measurement methodologies
that do not measure ri
mircea_popescu: "So, by
tinkering, I figured out
that I fare best under
the following conditions: no breakfast, working out randomly (but in a lumpy way: long walks & intense weight lifting without a scheduled
time limit), "working" randomly, fasting when working out, avoiding modern carbs (and modernized fruits), avoiding contact with economists and finance idiots,
taking red eye flights & fasting during episodes of jet lag and similar
mircea_popescu: "We prohibit under anathema
that murderous art of crossbowmen and archers, which is hateful
to God"
mircea_popescu: "Finally, beyond
the current mess, I see no way out of
this ecological problem, except
through
that
tacit, unexplainable, seasoned,
thoughtful, and aged
thing crystalized by
traditions & religions --we can't live without charts and we need
to rely on
the ones we've used for millennia. Le 21e siecle sera religieux, ou ne sera pas!" << someone needs
to shout bitcoin at him in such a way
that he understands wtf we do here.
mircea_popescu: ill eventually be destroyed by
the machinery of arrogant, formal-thinking civil servants, and Ivy-league semi-retards."
mircea_popescu: "So let me
take
this into more interesting
territory, and express my anti-social-planner views. Even more
that in Hayek's days,
the ecology of
the real world is becoming
too complex for Aristotelian logic: very, very little of what we do can be safely formalized, meaning asymmetries matter more
than ever. Which puts
the Western World
today at
the most dangerous point in its history: unless we get
the Bernanke-Summers cro
mircea_popescu: kes "doing science" lose
their
tenures after
the endowments (and charity) run out of funds,
they will be barely fit
to do anything in
the real-life ecology. I wonder what you can do with an unemployed, say, academic orthodox economist. You could do better with non-post-academic cab drivers. Clearly
those
the most fit at dealing with "just evidence" will be idiot savants outside
their evidence domain."
mircea_popescu: "I leave aside
the confusion absence of evidence/evidence of absence--and
the misunderstanding of
the very notion of "empiricism". It is a fact
that in
the real world of our daily decision-making 1) we do not have much evidence of most relevant
things, yet we need
to
take action; 2) in most situations, "true/false" is never symmetric (one side is more harmful
than
the other), so
the burden of evidence is one-sided. Which
sedeki: mircea_popescu i have a hunch you follow interesting blogs. do you want
to share?
mircea_popescu: that's not how you get
to be rich. rich people are hated, because
they are supposed
to be hated. No one has ever gotten elitist rich by following
the rules or being nice.
mircea_popescu: . Just fucks me off when I see super rich fucks chuck
their money around like confetti. Fiat or bitcoin. ( and yes bit of jealousy, but if I was
that rich I would share
the wealth in a more meaningful way)
mircea_popescu: could be
the net worth graph of pretty much any forum investment
Guest20889: mircea_popescu:
The amazing
thing about
the unfuckable is
the variety of ways
they can inhere
that property.
fluffypony: but consistency is critical during
the initial load
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I'm not against
the approach, but I
think
this needs a more unified approach
to prevent a more unified view
assbot: A complete
theory of economics pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: well i'm sure
that multiple passionate, disparate, interested curators will work
too :)
fluffypony: darlidada: yes - clever
tags will provide a map
mircea_popescu: ;;later
tell mike_c let me know once you approve my comment so i know it hasn't just been swallowed up by
the machine and can erase
the pasted version i've saved just in case.
darlidada: interesting, so you want me
to map every person and every event within
the bitcoin world
fluffypony: on
the contrary, I want you
to become a cartographer ;)
darlidada: fluffypony wants me
to become a philosopher like
the one from
the french enlightment whereas i wanna become a free spirit like rousseau,
though now
that i am into bitcoin, im not sure about his love for
the demos anymore ;<
fluffypony: darlidada: I hope your book-writing skills are up
to scratch :-P
fluffypony: for
this I'd hope some entries are extraordinarily long
fluffypony: and it will grow as he gets
through
the logs
mircea_popescu: and if you're notwilling
to compromise some words will be book length
fluffypony: so
the entry for "Mircea Popescu" won't be repeated per-day
mircea_popescu: so i bet you if you do all
the fluff your summaries will exceed
the space of
the log, prolly 3x
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> random fluff is
the best << except
the mp
theorem is
that "bitcoin-assets is
the shortest packing possible of all
the information it contains".
darlidada: even on #bitcoin-assets,
there is a chat hierarchy,
there are chat logs
that are important
to sum up and chat logs
that are just fluff
darlidada: how should we sort
the stuff
that happens ? should we sum up everything even random fluff?
fluffypony: once darlidada gets
to like June last year he's going
to have
to dip into personal logs
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yep - a blog post for every day
that #bitcoin-assets has existed
darlidada: its
true
that knowledge is disseminated everywhere, but
to be fair
trilema bitcoin section already does a very nice job
mircea_popescu: yeah. platform
threw me, but srsly, yu just want
to make a blog.
fluffypony: and it's not
to give noobs a lurk-free path
fluffypony: yes - but
the key here is analysis and synopsis
mircea_popescu: thinking about it, you basically want him
to run a blog
fluffypony: I want darlidada
to maintain a "guardian of knowledge" role
fluffypony: pankkake: either or - I still don't
think
that letting all-and-sundry edit is good
fluffypony: pankkake: wiki links
to other articles are not automatic
tho
mircea_popescu: iirc i said something
then but i don't recall what or how itwent
fluffypony: my
thinking was WordPress with a "dictionary" plugin
that picks up words in posts and links
them
to "definitions"
mircea_popescu: cause you know, everyone's gonna make one, cause
there's nothing easier in
the world, exactly
the sort of busywork unemplyed webcoders love, and
then
they'll compete and
then before you know it you won't be able
to be friends anymore.
mircea_popescu: definitely, but
then making a myriad platforms is anti convenience
davout: or on
tor, or whatever, we're digressing here, my point is
that monetizing convenience is something i
think can make sense
mircea_popescu: fluffypony well, original content is generally one
thing, derivative content is generally iffy.
davout: i mean burying someone in legal papers would be costly
to you, and it would be easy
to work around
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: so analysis of
Trilema articles would be open, right? it doesn't preclude credits
to
the source
davout: mircea_popescu:
that sounds like it'd be much more costly
to
the
target
than
to
the attacker