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mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo has this a+++ chix
mircea_popescu: the obvious and necessary (though unfortunate -- but fuck them for not speaking up at the right time) result of #metoo is daily beatings and gang rape for all campus and highschool dwellers. rotherham / durban style
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: She's still trying to unwind father's estate and extract mother from caracas
asciilifeform: hey BingoBoingo whatever happened to that chix
mircea_popescu: let them fucking starve, and lick each other's bungholes in lieu of crocheting their own toilet paper, im 100% for it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, moar venezuela just what the doctor ordered for the miami cunts.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, presenting quiet threat of military coup is exactly why Uruguay has army answering http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-12#1850048 ☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc he mentioned 'orc exam' for gurl ~prior~ to marrying it
asciilifeform: ( anyway if anybody turns up the thread, plox to link, i'm coming up empty )
mircea_popescu: doing noting over time == someone will put a collar on you and you'll dance for pennies.
mircea_popescu: lotta this "i've been sitting here doing nothing for a long time, therefore i matter" nation of africa bs.
BingoBoingo: But yes, lots of butthurt about what the fellow in question was doing making money and yet... He's their best chance to avoid a coup
BingoBoingo: Partido Nacional, historically the Partido Blanco, is the rural party
asciilifeform: pretty sure there was thread, even
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 15:35 BingoBoingo: On the other hand Frente Amplio is trying to pass Tranny Reparations while paying for it out of military pensions.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860880 << bwahaha. amplio what, amplio culo << Amplio is the Italian "Samba, sí" party ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i oddly have no recollection of this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you maybe confusing ben_vulpes and mthreat ? who did actually live there yes, but ended up importing gf, jet etc. mostly used local infrastructure for cheap pilot lessons.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform is not exactly primo disco tester.
asciilifeform: at any rate i dun doubt that the item wouldv'e broken spectacularly if mircea_popescu had torture-tested it
asciilifeform: iirc he investigated ar for terraforming
mircea_popescu: ave1 please return my memory that you stole. you can have yours back kthx.
asciilifeform: i havent been there since, no
mircea_popescu: wait, when was this ?!
asciilifeform: i bet he does, d00d hung around for months there iirc
asciilifeform: dunno, ben_vulpes walked me into one in buenosaires that was bigger than my house, and ~empty
mircea_popescu: yoiu know ? bar-disco-club the size of your bathroom. "wtf is wrong with you ?!" "we've been serving customers since 1972!" "yeah well when you finally add up the slices to one whole served customer let me know"
mircea_popescu: all the shitty shops in argentina were doing the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0 bullshit, "we've been here for 5690845 years." "yes, but you suck" "that is less important"
mircea_popescu: “A un partido de 182 años no le interesan señores oportunistas que vengan a instalarse." << this "anos" thing is such a big thing in southamerica, too.
asciilifeform: lol i suppose nao i gotta actually read what they were sayin'..
mircea_popescu: what they're saying is, "just because he's rich doesn't mean we're dirt". which -- it does mean, yes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is notably not what they're saying.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun even know that the traditional orc intuition of 'rich ~= receives payola from miami' is such terrible heuristic
mircea_popescu: what, because while he was getting rich and htey weren't "they were doing something equallty important" ? like what, let me guess, http://trilema.com/the-goodbye-girl "redecorating" the apartment ?
mircea_popescu: "Molesto, Abdala sostuvo que prefiere que no se presente. “No puede caer un millonario en paracaídas a decir que va a ser precandidato”, dijo. " <<< ahjahaha AND WHY THE FUCK NOT ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 15:35 BingoBoingo: On the other hand Frente Amplio is trying to pass Tranny Reparations while paying for it out of military pensions.
BingoBoingo: mats: No, thank you
mats: BingoBoingo: thx
asciilifeform: it's a 2edged blade, as it would be a great temptation to 'light client' idjits to parasitize on trb. but would make for easy litmus.
asciilifeform: in-block tx, that is, rather than mempool
asciilifeform: btw trb could in principle be made entirely distinguishable, if we were to permit asking for a ~tx~ in 'inv' command ( currently prohibited , because prb nuked indexing , but could be brought into trb with no ill effect aside from some cpu cost )
asciilifeform: i strongly suspect that a very large % of the current set of 'nodes' won't pass.
asciilifeform: the 1 'litmus test' i was able to think of , is the 'i pick a block hash and you gimme the block in <1s' algo. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( granted such a survey won't distinguish 'pseudos' or outright shams, the only item that can do it is an actual noad )
asciilifeform: re upstack -- as it happens, 'trb-compat' is pretty easy to distinguish mechanically -- anybody who has 'services' field != 1, aint trb-compat.
diana_coman: so I guess I'll wait then on ave1's updated .vpatch then
trinque: just didn't need preventing, as the bad form is screamingly apparent
diana_coman: well yes, I can't quite see the point of blanking the manifest without regenesis since that's basically what it means
asciilifeform: if yer nuking the manifest, good form would be to regenesis then imho. but yes
mircea_popescu: sorta how physics perfectly permits the destruction of statues, even though people tend to not indulge.
mircea_popescu: note that it's not even illegal to blank the manifest or w/e. impolite, yes, but the spec allows.
diana_coman: and it fits perfectly the original idea of alternative, proper ☟︎
diana_coman: ah, alternative line in manifest too, I see it
mircea_popescu: press == taking the tree of patches and building a line among them
mircea_popescu: diana_coman a single line ~in the press~. but a tree ~in existence~.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 16:32 mircea_popescu: ave1 you can literally make it alternate patch to the table crc32, so one can press either, according to need/want.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860960 -> hm, doesn't the manifest impose a single line rather than a tree? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this then would allow one to maintain presence without ever connecting to the internet.
mircea_popescu: (one perfectly legitimate way to build-towards-gossipd is to make the following item standard : every bot, upon receiving some registration order from anyone in owner's wot, will then respond to "any messages for me ?" with a "since yo ulast asked, here's all the loglines i have seen which highlighted your name".
asciilifeform: further in pipeline, will be a thing that actually asks'em for a randomly-picked block, and sees if it keccaks to what i've got.
asciilifeform: individual display only of trb-compat folx.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: btw i think you'll like this, by default thing does opposite of the heathen one, doesn't display prb nodes individually, but simply as a collective 'sad people' stat # .
asciilifeform: definitely calls for a text bot
mircea_popescu: which is exactly what they are.
asciilifeform: initial draft is a plain phuctor-like www display tho
asciilifeform: ah yes i'ma use same skeleton for the nodes thing
asciilifeform: i have 1 presently ( switched off, will move it to pizarro in near fyootoor ) , talks to ffa
asciilifeform: idea being a republican (and non-idiotic) replacement for the https://bitnodes.earn.com/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/ item
asciilifeform: speaking of trb, i dusted off an old conveyor item, phuctor-like www proggy that maps out noadez ( you give it ips, and it connects to'em, then issues 'version' and 'getaddr', and builds a graph )
asciilifeform: lol, could even describe e.g. trb this way
mircea_popescu: "surfer girl toy set. batteries and ocean included"
mircea_popescu: (correspondingly -- alf's boat design will come with the necessary body of water.)
asciilifeform: i'd rather have addressable sram , and explicit movement to/from a slower/cheaper brick
asciilifeform: personally i fucking hate branch prediction and other hacks around the slow main memory that for some reason there's no buyable alternative to ( cray is dead )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 14:40 ave1: also at same time pasted
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860859 <<< ahaha this was a hystorical histerical moment! ☝︎
asciilifeform: it has a legit, sorta, use -- long loops ( where branch 'likely', given as it is taken for all but final shot ) but still ugh
mircea_popescu: kinda how the whole thing even came to my attention. "really ?"
asciilifeform: spawned by this sorta thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: x86 actually has terrifying hacks, in instruction sets, 'likely branch'/'unlikely branch'
mircea_popescu: trying to figure out the future misses of the obvious by the branch predictor is the best way to drive intelligent people insane i know of.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unrollable, too.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 13:52 asciilifeform: ( bonus is that the closed form is not only constant time, but substantially faster on pc, nomoar branch prediction misses )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 13:52 ave1: ouch, but I hate thinking
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860843 << o yeah, that's so evident from the extant record, too... ☝︎
asciilifeform: btw ave1 , if you're gonna keep the 'minimum 4 bytes of input', it oughta be a precondition to the func.
asciilifeform: ( walkthrough of how to take 'programmatic' form and turn into closed-algebraic )
asciilifeform: imho pretty good didactic thread, btw, i'ma start linking to it
mircea_popescu: meanwhile visiting duckling got into my shoes, is individually gumming each of however many dozens laces, then forgetting its count and starting over.
mircea_popescu: lol kk, going through.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was done ( twice ! ) , lol, see further downthread.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 12:49 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860789 << imho a ~constant time~ crc32 would be useful, and can be made from ave1's with very small effort, but i'ma leave it as exercise for him ( simply dispose of the if's )
asciilifeform: grab how many bits you want, then let go of the toilet lock for the next process.
asciilifeform: currently i suspect that 'slicing' (per ave1 thread) isn't even wanted; but simply locking.
asciilifeform: if kernel gotta be involved at all, it really ought to be simply to prevent multiple processes from seeing same FG bits.
mircea_popescu: the only problem, to my eye, is that good abstraction is being hijacked by the female minded to implement bad abstraction, ie, instead of an insulation from detail abstraction becomes an insulation from responsibility.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it behaves moar like a (very slowly moving) tape, tho, rather than memory
mircea_popescu: if you want to keep slaves -- then YOU administer the keeping of the slaves. you don't ask sheriff of wherver county to implement the fugitive slave act. and so on. who wants prng makes prng, does not get to pretend "oh, kernel has this knob for me, '''im not entirely sure what it does lol'''" tongue in cheek bs, '''i just dress like this, it doesn't mean anyhthing''' etc.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 12:41 asciilifeform: but yes if you're picking the next piece to fall in 'tetris', just use own prng