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mircea_popescu: i once broke into a network with the root-leaf combo
Mats_cd03: i take credit for good links in this channel
davout: kakobrekla: hahaha, actually the password is root too
mircea_popescu: decimation: the burea-tard who signed Obama's birth certificate died in a plane crash (survived the crash but "had irregular heart beat" after 60 minutes in the water) <<< that took a while.
mircea_popescu: [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth1 OUT= SRC=208.94.26.148 DST=192.168.0.100 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=242 ID=65083 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=443 DPT=46252
benkay: give everyone a touchscreen
mircea_popescu: or do you mean that ancient "rsyslogd was HUPed, type lightweight" bug they've had for ages ? did it eventually prevail upon them and so they just took logging right out of 12.04 ? :D
mircea_popescu: they even had a special doohickey made so they could add it in the menus
mircea_popescu: or you mean, "not turned on"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Also, did anyone else here have reason to learn Ubuntu 12.04 ships without syslogd or rsyslog << is that even possible ?!
mircea_popescu: so this is the day of the longlog huh
benkay: one of the subnets.
mircea_popescu: not going through the spine
mike_c: well there is that.
benkay: * asciilifeform doesn't own airplane, will probably have to settle for slipping in his bath with a cocked nailgun // are the 'suicides' humorously staged yet?
benkay: i almost took a job making fixtures for them before i knew how little i enjoyed shop support at big shops.
benkay: <decimation> yeah no doubt, but those people probably could be identified and treated with various medical devices // my favorite of these is made my a local shop (designed in germany, though). it sits on your nervous system and listens to your heartbeat, supplying it's own 'carrier wave' when necessary to entrain the signal that nominally keeps things beating in time.
mike_c: it's amazing how many great links come through this channel without any need for up/down voting systems.
assbot: Intraday Momentum: The First Half-Hour Return Predicts the Last Half-Hour Return by Lei Gao, Yufeng Han, Guofu Zhou :: SSRN
mircea_popescu: "The earliest types of EDA routers were "manual routers" -- the drafter clicked a mouse on the endpoint of each line segment of each net. Modern PCB design software typically provides "interactive routers" -- the drafter selects a pad and clicks a few places to give the EDA tool an idea of where to go, and the EDA tool tries to place wires as close to that path as possible without violating DRC." << my naive bias thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok im cured. this and the oxide gate problems, i can see it now.
mircea_popescu: "Particular difficulties ensue if the rules are not simple multiples of each other, and when vias must traverse between layers with different rules."
mircea_popescu: but they weren't.
mircea_popescu: surely if they both were online both'd have done 500 btc, keeping their parity
mircea_popescu: suppose one day there's a panic, which takes one offline but not the other, which now dows 500 btc
pankkake: no but I mean you have to care only if they are reasonably close, which isn't the case at all now
mircea_popescu: one of those subjects being thought about.
mircea_popescu: (ie, someone who's not won loses nothing by making a spurious claim he has. this then taxes mod time, and the more complex the claim the better for the claimant)
pankkake: then quickly archive.is the page
mircea_popescu: the problem with this, of course, is that it gives a monetary incentive to make comments, at which point the result will be a flood of nonsense
pankkake: yeah, for the CNY volume bet I actually wrote a script to watch the result
mircea_popescu: im thinking a solution going forward would be "claim bets", ie, bets that resolve one way unless proof to the contrary is presented in the comments.
mircea_popescu: pankkake this sort of bet is problematic, because what the fuck's the submitter to do.
davout: prolly sthg i'll work on during the summer
kakobrekla: btw when are you going to connect to rtbtc again
davout: kakobrekla: dun worry, i'll tell you a couple in advance which day i'll push dogecoin volume to bitcoin charts
pankkake: unfortunately there isn't, as neither exchanges publish a 30d volume
kakobrekla: reason: Not going to check two pages every day to make sure; come up with a better resolution source if possible.
kakobrekla: this one : This bet resolves has Yes if Bitcoin-Central has a 30d BTC/EUR trading volume higher than Kraken's, at any point before 2015, as computed by http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/
kakobrekla: pankkake if you are looking for the reason i can look it up
pankkake: why not remove the "fsdfdf" bets? they make up 80% of the page
mircea_popescu: pankkake prolly rss is the best solution
mircea_popescu: jesus republic of the soviets they got going over there. go ask lenin whydontcha
mircea_popescu: since when the motherfucking hells does the administration have a say in this!
mircea_popescu: chetty "Or, the Court might ask the Obama administration for its views on pari passu"
pankkake: well, alternatively I can submit it for the third time :D
pankkake: there was just too much bets (and spam) in a short timeframe
mircea_popescu: now that may be a good idea
mike_c: isn't there an rss?
mircea_popescu: or add a rule "whenever the last bet on page is not in my list of read bets, halve the checking interval"
pankkake: or you should remove the pure spam
pankkake: http://bitbet.us/propositions/ is too small, I can't see older rejects
davout: it also has implications wrt to the bet resolution time
chetty: If someone gives me a goat I will never tell
davout: BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO REPORT IT TOO
chetty: you know it is fascinating how much this convo sounds like this 'issue':http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/06/the-argentine-bond-saga-made-simple/#more-212867
davout: so the bet resolution could be rewritten as "yes if s.mg receives at least one satoshi in 2014"
davout: even if there are 500 BTC expenses to cover leading to a loss
davout: making the bet resolve to yes
mircea_popescu: such as for instance i dunno, blizzard gets scared and pays us 50 bux to not run wow out of business
mircea_popescu: well then it also has to report it.
davout: because that would count as revenue
davout: the way the resolution is worded can be reduced to : "bet resolves to yes if at some point during 2014, it is possible to send money to an address owned by s.mg"
mircea_popescu: what was the second part lessee
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people reading the logs just got a legal & philosophical education.
davout: let's move on to the second part
davout: yes, i got all that :-)
mircea_popescu: the shorter stick IS ACTUALLY as long as the longer one.
mircea_popescu: but that whatever you may think your measurement shows,
mircea_popescu: that's the meaning of the japanese sticks story : not that you can throw out one stick
mircea_popescu: as far as bitbet is concerned, the string of english words that is the title NOW MEANS the string of english words that is the body.
mircea_popescu: these are not the same, really. for instance, the title is indexed.
mircea_popescu: yeah but you're trying to equivocate between "in any dispute between the two, the body carries" and "by changing the title you're not really changing the bet itself, much like you could change the css around it or whatever"
davout: i'm not saying there's an ambiguity in the bet resolution, it's perfectly clear if the body supersedes the title
mircea_popescu: the way it was said was that in any dispute between the two, the body carries.
mircea_popescu: "germany understands this peace treaty as a carte blanche to fuck all your womenz"
mircea_popescu: this isn't some sort of diplomatic negotiation where you can make oral notes on your signing of the treaty
mircea_popescu: davout sure, but the way you understand things has little bearing
davout: the way i understand what you say is that the bet title is merely a convenience, it has no value with regards to resolution, so by changing the title you're not really changing the bet itself, much like you could change the css around it or whatever
mircea_popescu: mike_c fud #2 for you today, suggesting the choice of venue is upon the plaintiff! WHO EVER HEARD OF THIS
mike_c: davout: you can easily fix this by asking the question in the comments.
mircea_popescu: now if only the us congress spent their morning today reading this log instead of absolutely anything they've been doing,
mircea_popescu: only because you abusively equate distinct things.
davout: granted, but following your logic, if the title doesn't matter wrt the bet resolution there's no problem changing it :-)
mircea_popescu: mike_c yeah but i prefer to make it buried in here.
mircea_popescu: imo bs shakespeare tony awards bets don't make any sense
mike_c: bibet has stooped to making clarifying comments before. this may be appropriate in this case.
mircea_popescu: and as to how much sense a bet makes... who the fuck cares outside of the people betting on it.
mircea_popescu: it can't really hurt to make them consistent, before they're made. but the entire model (not just of bitbet, for that matter) rests on absolutes, and the proposal of improving this bet runs into the absolute that it's already published,
mircea_popescu: davout well let's do these one at a time huh ?
kakobrekla: he likes to use that word.
davout: and also that the bet doesn't make that much sense if to resolve to yes s.mg only has to report an incoming money transfer > 0
mircea_popescu: where not only they sleep with their horses in the bed, but also all house numbers are even
mircea_popescu: obviously mike_c runs the rival FUD japanese restaurant across the street
davout: well, i get how that can be clarified, all i'm saying is that it can't really hurt to make them consistent, especially when no one else has bet yet
mike_c: what? that's ridiculous. the shorter stick should be the pair's equal length.
mircea_popescu: and so for any case, the backstop is that the larger stick's length is defined as the pair's equal length
mircea_popescu: when pointed out to the manager, he explains that while they mostly try to make it the same length, being two different items obviously they can never in fact be equal length, for quantum reasons
kakobrekla: how do you sort them?
mircea_popescu: consider perhaps a better example : we go into a japanese restaurant together, where we're given sticks to eat with.