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TheNewDeal: yes the network is quite variable over short term
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I'm telling you with the diff bets you have to consider the externalities.
mike_c: imagine if they had three cans
BingoBoingo: I really lacks all of the useful system tools. I'm afraid it might tell me I need to install cat if I try to use it now
assbot: Bitstamp Wins Best Virtual Currency Startup Award at The Europas
mircea_popescu: does it keep a journal for the hdd or dispensed with that too ?
mircea_popescu: so go back to 10.04
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: 12.04 did indeed ship without rsyslog or syslogd, it can produce dmesg but the terminal is of course too short to display the whole thing.
mike_c: started trading in may. it started operating a bit before that.
davout: pankkake: "can you even restrict CAs to tlds?" <<< wat?
fluffypony: ;;later tell BingoBoingo if you haven't seen it, this is by far the best flopping attempt in recent history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbmnhusvWTc
chetty: <mircea_popescu> anyone interested in my salmon teriyaki recipe ?// do tell
pankkake: can you even restrict CAs to tlds?
pankkake: corporate CA is the usual trick
mircea_popescu: which increases the vulnerability of their "security" tremendously
dignork: mircea_popescu: well, they are actually lying, for this to work, they either have to ssl-strip, or plant corporate CA in all their system
mircea_popescu: "Now you can have visibility into all the encrypted SSL traffic on your network—at extremely high performance—so you can inspect it, identify potentially nefarious activities, and feed the intelligence to an ecosystem of security application vendors—all through Blue Coat."
[]bot: Bet created: "FIFA World Cup 2014 total goals over 158" http://bitbet.us/bet/898/
assbot: Blue Coat – Whats Your SSL Traffic Trying to Hide?
dignork: benkay: http://www.bluecoat.com/company-blog/2013-05-09/what%E2%80%99s-your-ssl-traffic-trying-hide // i've seen similar hardware deployed by companies to monitor their employees traffic. Single point of failure. Awesome point to hack.
mircea_popescu: anyone interested in my salmon teriyaki recipe ?
kakobrekla: you can take one side, wait for approval, bet the other side and then hand out the pass
TheNewDeal: but back to this private bet. You're saying I couldnt bet both sides at the beginning, then hand out the password to close group of people?
TheNewDeal: I have accidentally been requesting new addresses when betting the same side at a later time. Didn't realize you could just resend to same
assbot: Blue Coat – Whats Your SSL Traffic Trying to Hide?
benkay: http://www.bluecoat.com/company-blog/2013-05-09/what%E2%80%99s-your-ssl-traffic-trying-hide // waaaaaaaaaaaaat is this
mircea_popescu: no they're not
kakobrekla: you know they are finite, right.
kakobrekla: im trying to save on the btc addresses!
TheNewDeal: could I bet both sides at the beginning as well?
kakobrekla: correct TheNewDeal
TheNewDeal: not concerned as much with the why
mike_c: have their been any?
kakobrekla: cause transparency.
TheNewDeal: you can see it, but need a password to bet?
kakobrekla: actually they are public.
mircea_popescu: well they're private.
TheNewDeal: or are they quite rare?
TheNewDeal: would be interested to see what % of bitbet is made into private bets
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> and it's not mp being wrong, it's mp admits being wrong << no its not. i always admit it when i'm wrong, it's just im not wrong that often
TheNewDeal: top one MP to admit being wrong in #b-a
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: what was the bet?
TheNewDeal: ancientaliensbtc is it ok to assume no more bets will be made on the opposing side (more conservative) ?
TheNewDeal: it's easy enough to calculate
kakobrekla: AncientAliensBTC someone made an app to simulate that i think
AncientAliensBTC: How does betting later affect my odds? Say I bet 1 BTC (as the site shows) with a 3.5 BTC payout. How much will I cash in on my early betting vs lose out to my position becoming more popular/dilute other side?
mircea_popescu: whoever made the mp being wrong bitbet : i was all for it but the mods shot it down.
dexX7: i think i can up myself
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mike_c: AncientAliensBTC: i see betting both sides of a bitbet as a bet on action. if the bet receives a lot of action, you should do well.
mircea_popescu: on thetopic*
mircea_popescu: all the goodstuff i read on the paper were romanian cb white papers in the 80s and 90s
mike_c: Apocalyptic: i am trying to :)
mike_c: anyone have any good book recommendations on the topic?
mircea_popescu: m3 is only relevant if you wish to pierce through that veil
mircea_popescu: the fed is engaged in a doomed fight to maintain the financial relevancy of a dead industrial base.
Apocalyptic: "the fed says m3 is meaningless" // is anything the fed says meaningfull ?
mike_c: i thought you might have some insight to measures worth understanding vs. ones that are just noise.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: well, i am trying to internalize money supply. like it seems m2 floats around 4x m1. the fed says m3 is meaningless, but others say it isn't. and i don't entirely understand m4 yet.
AncientAliensBTC: poured through trilema and btc alpha already :)
gribble: Betting BitBet Both Ways - Btc Alpha: <http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/betting-bitbet-both-ways/>; Btc Alpha - Analysis tools for bitcoin finance.: <http://www.btcalpha.com/>; When Does BitBet Money Come In? - Btc Alpha: <http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/when-does-bitbet-money-come-in/>
TheNewDeal: Someone found the truth Re:I am ... by cshark @slashdot http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4562153&cid=45709487
AncientAliensBTC: More seriously though, anyone want to discuss the betting of both sides on BitBet? I'm curious about discussing the theory behind the results of the data dump.
mircea_popescu: functionally, deductively, somehow there's a way
mircea_popescu: it's always the case you can narrow and pin things down in a macro discussion, tho it's almost always the case people are reluctant to do so
benkay: <AncientAliensBTC> SN was clearly Aliens the tech is too good. // actually the thing is that the tech is so bad that only an agent entirely unfamiliar with cultural standards could have done it
mike_c: mircea_popescu: hard to describe. i am trying to think about how many dollars there are, which is obviously a complicated topic.
benkay: aliens makes sense tho
benkay: its the only sensible option
chetty: time traveler
benkay: yeah totally
TheNewDeal: surpised I haven't heard speculation that satoshi was an alien.
AncientAliensBTC: SN was clearly Aliens the tech is too good.
Apocalyptic: <benkay> oh this will be good <<
benkay: oh this will be good
mgio: in other words, sue him for the btc owed
mgio: only way to get out of it if he was to declare personal bankrupcy
mircea_popescu: <mgio> legal options, of course << that didn't mwean anything.
mgio: he lives in the US, as do I, and the terms of the loan are pretty straightforward
mike_c: wait for the part where he asks you how many bitcoin you have.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: what do you think is the best judge of money supply? m2? m4?
benkay: the whole 'can you assbot' thing as test of technical ability is a neat filter to boot.
benkay: NONE THIS IS BITCOIN
mike_c: what's the other option?
mircea_popescu: well what recourse other than patience do you have anyway.
mgio: I'm probably more patient than I should be
mgio: ukyo.loan, he owes me a lot of money and it supposedily working on some projects to pay it back. wondering what the status is
joesmoe: mgio is NSA, tracking Ukyo down
mgio: thanks for the help
mircea_popescu: well, look at l1, talk to the people there.
joesmoe: i've done a few transactions on otc a while back
mircea_popescu: same goes to you that i said to mgio : unless you're in assbot l2's trust you can't up yourself.
joesmoe: i can't seem to get assbot to like me, its being a real ass
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mircea_popescu: "there's bitbet, we don;'t talk about. the betting sites we talk about is <del>etc"
TheNewDeal: they the results of the proposition spam?
mircea_popescu: the pretense remains unchanged. "there's mpex, we don't talk about. the exchange we talk about is <Del>glbse<del>btct<del>bitcoin whatever<del>etc"
mircea_popescu: you will need ti get in assbot's l2 to voice yourself.
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TheNewDeal: whats the sham betsite?