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fluffypony: mircea_popescu: davout's talking about searching for the total received for each address in a timeframe
davout: mircea_popescu: no, because i checked for totals
davout: ended up with around ~100k addresses to check, none of them received the amounts he mentions in the timeframe he mentions
fluffypony: every thread that's popped up that I've read has him claiming those two Instawallet URLs (plus a third that had 0.825 BTC or something that he disregards), but no further evidence
davout: took a few days for the script to reverse-explore the chain from the CS address
davout: once i had a massive collection of addresses i checked for an address whose received totals matched the balances he claimed, to no avail
mircea_popescu: davout so he does not make a specific claim to either address or transaction, he makes a specific claim as to balance and to url which can't be verified, is the thing ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: sure, BUT if he EVER sent money from Instawallet to someone (say as payment for something) and message'd or email'd them the transaction ID he'd have that, he'd have SOMETHING that could be used
davout: so i went there and used tracked all the addresses linked in any way to the unique IW cold storage address
blackwhite: pretty good talk on ethereum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9dpjN3Mwps
davout: well that's kind of what i figured, and i also figured he'd be too dumb to explore the blockchain by himself
mircea_popescu: ok, so were you on vacation at the time of the hax ?
davout: the idea being that i could have checked against backups of bitcoind wallets as well with such an information
davout: i asked him "o hey, maybe it could help me if you gave me the deposit addresses"
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: he gets asked to prove he deposited 1100+ BTC into Instawallet, providing a transaction ID or a signed BTC addy that sent it or ANYTHING, and he just ignores those requests or talks around them
mircea_popescu: so did you say this to him ? did you get any sort of response ?
davout: that's what the backups convey
davout: hence me asking for the deposit addresses and/or the funding transactions
mircea_popescu: so as best you can determine, there's a month+ interval where according to phinn he had 1k+ btc, but according to your db he had not ?
davout: a month or two i think
davout: i tried to search by balances
mircea_popescu: well were they a week older than the live db ?a month ? more ?
davout: i tried to find partial url matches too
davout: i don't really recall from the top of my head
pankkake: Karpeles, those Dealco guys out of HK, now these scammers
davout: one of the first things i thought of
mircea_popescu: what date was the oldest you checked roughly ?
davout: i checked for that against a few backups
mircea_popescu: davout so is it possible whoever broke in deleted some records too ?
davout: except we didn't have a tor hidden service
mircea_popescu: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--wOjCTy9_--/strfxwexmbgnjk7b4nus.jpg now vs then : http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--utwlJ8_1--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ihl9qhl9yy47q1axnuiv.jpg
Apocalyptic: "BTW, I would not rule out the possiblity that Boussac himself is a victim of davout to some extent" who's Boussac again ?
davout: some people fell for the "oh hey, here is our tor hidden service for instawallet, deposit bitches"
davout: i dunno, and tbh i would like to know too
mircea_popescu: davout uh. so then how is it possible he thought he had something there ?
davout: for two of the urls
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Following massive rainfalls in Misiones, Argentina, and Santa Catarina and Paraná, Brazil, the famous Iguazú Falls are now overflowing, carrying 46,300 cubic meters per second—33 times the usual water flow rate."
mircea_popescu: did he lose two of his three urls ?
davout: two of his URLs matched to nothing, pretty simple
mircea_popescu: his generative grammar is quite bizarre, i can't follow statements like "all three didn't" worth a crap.
mircea_popescu: well let's see. instawallet had a system whereby ownership is proven by url. the guy had 3 urls. what was not associated with what ?
davout: mircea_popescu: what specific part of the story are you curious about ?
mircea_popescu: blackwhite right. so meanwhile the channel is +m, to get voice you have to pm assbot !up which only works if you're trusted to any degree by someone assbot trusts.
blackwhite: but getting back to getting more involved again.
mircea_popescu: itor(s) because there wasn't one (or more, according to Boussac), in spite of them saying they couldn't because of some fuckin' idiotic NDA clause." ?
mircea_popescu: davout what's the backstory on "At the onset of the InstaWallet fiasco, all three URLs didn't have a bitcoin wallet associated with the generated pages. It wasn't till after I brought it to Boussac's attention that the lesser bitcoin-containing wallet was well-document that it mysterious had the associated wallet address visible on the URL generated site. This is why they refuse to release the name of the forensics aud
mircea_popescu: blackwhite the reason you can't say anything is that you';re not in assbot's l2 wot. have you been reading the logs or just idling idly ?
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mircea_popescu: decimation: waiting around and doing nothing while you hope a magic "process" or "committee" or "standarization" will do your job constitutes at least 50% of western officeworker employment << the best part is that this used to actually work, a century or so ago.
Apocalyptic: davout, did he post that on the forum ?
davout: he's a french guy that i've met a couple of times, also forumite
assbot: Sandokan Tribute - YouTube
mircea_popescu: i feel so left out. who's sandokan ? other than some bollywood action star from the 80s
dub: ah, I was teetering that way but I err on the side of retard
mircea_popescu: benkay: state media academia << ty
mircea_popescu: hai there persons.
kakobrekla: no takers ? boring.
dub: HIRE SOME SERBS TO GET IT
davout: kinda fun going into the office and have everyone be like "o hai, you have a 400 btc contract on your head" :D
starsoccer: you send him 50k USD then we split 400btc so you get 200btc and i get 200btc
davout: starsoccer: i already have someone willing to do it for only 100 BTC, sorry!
starsoccer: then me and you split the 400btc
davout: which boils down even further ti "donate 400 BTC to me"
davout: "davout stole 1132 BTC from me, so let's do something really smart here, if someone manages to make him cough up that amount, he can send me 732 BTC and keep 400 BTC for himself"
dub: the dude has <70 IQ, the end?
davout: kakobrekla: boiled down version goes something like this
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davout: i'm waiting for phinneaus to show up on -assets again, so i can pierce him a second butthole in front of everyone
davout: dub: yeah, that too
fluffypony: princessnell favourited my tweet, I'm well on my way to Internet fame :-P
fluffypony: throw the jew down the well
dub: and one of them posting 400btc for your head
assbot: Let's Bring Back the Fax Machine | Motherboard
assbot: Dear conference organizers: my wife says I have enough t-shirts and you should start giving out trousers. Thank you for understanding.
ThickAsThieves: thank you for the present
kakobrekla: bringing you past from the future.
ThickAsThieves: <+kakobrekla> http://www.newsweek.com/2014/06/20/tunnel-vision-254202.html /// do you come from the future?
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> someone translate this ? /// looks Antifragile-inspired (i started reading it yesterday)
Mats_cd03: ;;later tell vexual no is that something i should care about
Namworld: Dafuq youtube... giving me before my video a 1 hour ad video about Bitcoin, "Ride the Great Coming Wave"... Such a scammy ad.
diana_coman: are the logs of this channel available as a dump (I know about http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ but it seems to give them only day by day, while I wanted to play around with a bigger sample)
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diana_coman: thanks BingoBoingo, I think I actually should be voiced if I get auth
decimation: well, anyone with a basic understanding of human nature will realize that humans attempt to shirk responsibility if they think they can get away with it
decimation: nearly every gov't department wants to find ways of removing actual human accountability for problems while finding a way to produce government ex machina
decimation: "Trying to supplant our nature with technology is a losing prospect that gets it completely backwards." << what's amusing is that much of the ruling ideology of the USG is exactly this
assbot: Bitcoin Is Great, But It Won’t Fix Our Monkey Brains | The mlaut
decimation: here's the link for the google-poor http://theumlaut.com/2014/06/10/bitcoin-is-great-but-it-wont-fix-our-monkey-brains/
Vexual: is THAT the shit triangle?
Vexual: I left a shit triangle next to a dumpster last night
benkay: shit triangle
mircea_popescu: someone translate this ?
assbot: the shit triangle - Mystery of the Mundane
assbot: Introducing: The Coinion, Bitcoin's Finest News Source! Onion-clone for Bitcoin
BingoBoingo: You'd think the incentive your PR dropped for them on the forum would have got them reaching for 300 in a year
mircea_popescu: hard work, easily tired kids, whats to expect.
BingoBoingo: Coinion seems to have stalled out http://www.coinion.com/
BingoBoingo: Defintely on the ball in ways Ms boring isn't. Forbes picked the loser.
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