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mircea_popescu: the one thing that may make a datacenter feasible is having someone trustworthy to oversee it
mthreat: ok. I figured folks were already all over that.
mthreat: BingoBoingo: that's why I haven't pursued mining
BingoBoingo: mthreat: The biggest mining cost has always been the opportunity cost.
mircea_popescu: not the biggest cost, but a relevant factor ; yes.
mthreat: dumb mining question: is electricity the biggest cost these days? If so, has anyone set up an operation in a locale with cheap (possibly subsidized) electricity?
asciilifeform: (yes they're still extant)
mircea_popescu: "hijack the fab toolchain"
asciilifeform: even more fun than the traditional compiler infector.
mircea_popescu: actually this could be a pretty decent haxxor project
asciilifeform: betcha all the current btc asic houses use, e.g. 'synopsys'
BingoBoingo: All of a sudden any user makes their own wildly incompatible bedrocks.
BingoBoingo: afaik asciilifeform HN and the aggregators banned you for a reasons...
asciilifeform: afaik this has been discussed - nowhere.
asciilifeform: the monoculture in engineering software puts microshit to shame
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: In that case you aren't playing chess, but instead a more interesting game.
asciilifeform: likewise: if the toolchain is diddled on the manufacturer's (golden master copy) end, you can own multiple (all?) ic producers.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo by open i mean, a situation that doesn't have a fixed border at the 8th column, ora fixed nuymber of pieces and no generators etcv
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If you wipe out the other pieces two bishops and a king can mate a king. actually works better with less clutter on the boardd.
mircea_popescu: nobody has a clue what's in their toolchain anyway
asciilifeform: think: variation on the ken thompson theme.
asciilifeform: nobody's gone over tape-out mask with a magnifying glass since when, '85 ?
asciilifeform: ... diddled toolchains.
asciilifeform: i'd even dare to guess that the much-hyped ic fab diddling does indeed take place - but through...
BingoBoingo: Happens, but you need at least two bishops for checkmate.
mircea_popescu: rarely will someone kill the queen to die to the bishop as it were
mircea_popescu: obviously if they do that, they have a bullet for you, too.
mircea_popescu: the "value" of the sabotage is high. to expect an agent to do a high value thing just so YOU can capture its benefits...
nubbins`: right on! so this local arts newspaper wants to do a spread on pink eye for their july issue
asciilifeform: old hardware - suddenly worth something. at least temporarily.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for miners ? who gives a shit, they're bricks in a year anyway << not necessarily. let's gedankenexperiment. picture scenario where the two or three remaining producers ship... sabotaged ic. (take your pick - timed self-destruct, perverted algo with collusion of 'dev' folks, etc.)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Into the freshman class or the subfreshman class.
mircea_popescu: what matriculation is that ?
BingoBoingo: By the time a person takes it they are too late to reconsider another institution so after a year of shoveling shit they either get their act together or die.
BingoBoingo: Still, I think the matriculation test is a valuable idea.
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03: shits weak << he has you there bb.
mircea_popescu: jurov you willing to open your fiverr to the chan ? or who was it that had one, mike ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: I also can't be arsed to make a Fiverr account. << yeah i kinda need fiver type of things but can'r be arsed either.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: http://28ri4j3anx8g2wfod51alicjuaw.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/top-8-people-having-a-bad-day-.1.jpg << ok that was a lol.
mircea_popescu: "snort recycled chalk. it's great for your lungs and interesting for speologists, too!"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: When I had access to chalkboards I used a caco3/caso4 mix, whiter lasted longer.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: common chalk minerals << your chalk isn't CaCO3?! do we even want to know?
moiety: mircea_popescu: :D they were based on minis and the other little coupes of the time
mircea_popescu: pankkake: and the all bitcoin wallets… is an outright lie. << consider the source. the guy doesn't readily know which hole his piss comes out of .
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: to my knowledge common chalk minerals are readily digested by the lungs... Electronics and chalk are another matter.
benkay: ;;later tell buanzo nice to meetcha
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform chalk dust or toluene, pick your embalming technique
BingoBoingo: Whiteboards just don't work, and having been drinking since about... 1PM mircea_popescu time... I supposed aspects of bingo University.
mircea_popescu: moiety thaty looks like a mini
mircea_popescu: ya what was that al; about
BingoBoingo says this a someone who tried to start a blackboard vs. whiteboard flamewar.
BingoBoingo: They whore successfully on their own of whore for a master. Classes can be taken around that.
BingoBoingo: They can prolly stay in school, they just can't date.
mircea_popescu: seems the one thing a woman can do to make sure she won't be remarkable, or remembered, is stay in school as a teenager.
BingoBoingo: Indeed, and both rose to astounding success in their whore specialties
mircea_popescu: this should be informative tho : both of them spent their teenage years whoring.
mircea_popescu: personally i think i'd prefer the yankee.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if given a choice to drink marylin or eva who'd people pick
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ah ok. when i google "argentina national drink" it says mate. I think the national drink is peronism
mircea_popescu: mthreat but you know, national drink in the sense of how romanians have tzuica and scotts scotch.
BingoBoingo: King Cobra, probably the best fermented beverage in the US.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Prolly the most valuable part of my college education was learning which 40 oz bottle of Malt liquor were palatable.
buanz0: ok everyone, off to cook. it's 9.17pm in .ar - my nick will be buanzo, mircea knows how to get in touch with me. cya.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you can just drink the medicinal alcohol here. i know, cause i tried it. cue "ok, that is by FAR the most ghetto thing I ever saw you do" from floored assistence
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> mircea_popescu: You know the restaurants ther would serve it... << ya prolly
moiety: i have a 5 gallon brown demi john and a 1 gallon clear one. i want to start making my own things.
BingoBoingo: I might just switch to grain alcohol and distilled water. Purity of essence for the win.
buanz0: it all comes down to the different recipes out there, check out www.absenta.cl
buanz0: i've done my fair bit of distilling and brewing to know how i like to drink :P
BingoBoingo: moiety: Too much sugar in the booze leads to booze sweats in the morning.
moiety: i thought they dripped laudenum onto the cube and dropped it in the absinthe
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You know the restaurants ther would serve it...
buanz0: BingoBoingo: I like my absinth with good iced water, depending on the kind of absinth I might add a bit of sugar. the cube thing is just for show.
moiety: that was originally because of laudenum though, the sugar cube, wasn't it?
moiety: BingoBoingo: never had it on ice. i need the sugar or it's so harsh to me
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: As long as the beef accompanies it.
moiety: lol benkay! what have i done to you all in here?! manuls ingrained :D
mircea_popescu: gotta offer guests the best!
BingoBoingo: moiety: I like absinthe, but on ice. None of that sugar cube stuff. Don't want to become another Diabeetus 'Murican.
mircea_popescu: her "fuck i spent an hour trying to figure out how this happened"
mircea_popescu: me "ow shit, that's why it tasted like shit. i thought you kept tea in the cupboard"
mircea_popescu: (also, funny story : i visit friend, she's not there, i decide to make tea. i make tea, i taste it, ittastes like shit. eventually i get bored and leave.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ever notice people walking around with a big thermos and a small silver cup with a silver "straw"?
benkay: CAN YOU TELL I LIKED IT?
benkay: i have a bag of mate in the cupboard
benkay: it comes in big gulps at the big clubs
benkay: <mircea_popescu> so til argentina has no national drink // fernet!
BingoBoingo: Usually there's only a little vomitting. I've only had the experience thrice before surrendering to it being unpleasant in spite of the right genetics.
mircea_popescu: is this some pseudoephedrin cocktail ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Strega's nice. mthreat buanz0 If you want to robotrip just drink the tussin. Unless you have unfortunate genetics at CYP2D6 you'll survive a bottle.
mircea_popescu: then i told him he'll have to talk the wife into going naked, he visibly softened.
mircea_popescu: i was telling buanz0 about their bdsm party and he was all like... omg when's the next one.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: actually, a place you might like is one of the "secret" speakeasys
mircea_popescu: <mthreat> so i guess it's the equivalent of drinking robitussin << ok, i can see that.
mircea_popescu: i betcha you've never seen a wot this cool before :D
mthreat: so i guess it's the equivalent of drinking robitussin
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mircea_popescu: haven't tried galliano and other herbal shit, but anyway
mthreat: BingoBoingo: an italian told me that in italy they drink it like a medicine
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ill give them ths much tho , you can order strega in most cafes and they'll have it.