682200+ entries in 0.464s
decimation: re: elyisum (from steve sailor's review): "Elysium originated in a disastrous visit
to Mexico in 2005. While shooting a Nike commercial in lovely San Diego,
the Boer crossed
the border one evening
to see
Tijuana, where he was abducted by corrupt Mexican cops who shook him down for $900 in return for not killing him."
BingoBoingo: Right, even
though ideally
the same instruction sets are implemented.
decimation: some of intel's performance libraries will refuse
to work on AMD hardware, unsurprisingly
BingoBoingo: I remember when AMD fucked
their compilers by cribbing Intel
decimation: the motive, means, and opportunity are
there
decimation: asciilifeform: re: engineering
toolchain - I wonder if Intel's
toolchain suppliers have ever experimented with "enhancements"
BingoBoingo: decimation: You have
to realize what I say about methodism is purely as an outside observer.
decimation: "the nature" being
the natural and
the supernatural
decimation: if you discount Christianity's assertations about
the nature, I would agree with you
BingoBoingo: decimation: I went
to a Methodist college, but... Methodism isn't a real religion anyways.
decimation: so it's not suprising
that
they only select
the non-heretics
decimation: well, basically going
to ivy league is religious indoctrination
assbot: Matt Adams now
tied for
the /hashtag/stlcards?src=hash
team lead with
three
triples.
BingoBoingo: decimation: My Eagle scoutness did not adversly affect my admissionness
to undergrad.
decimation: mats: yeah
that's
the other point - if
the "logic" of your computerized government system is reprogrammable, you've fucked up
decimation: lol re: college admissions - it's also well known
that putting something like "future farmer of america" or "boy scout" or "rotc" (high school junior military "club") greatly reduces
the probability of admission
Mats_cd03: yeah and for fucks sake audit your code so
the peasants dont ruin elysium
mircea_popescu: "Then he got
to her essay. As he remembers it, she mentioned a French
teacher she greatly admired. She described
their one-on-one conversation at
the end of a school day. And
then,
this detail: During
their
talk, when an urge
to go
to
the bathroom could no longer be denied, she decided not
to interrupt
the
teacher or exit
the room. She simply urinated on herself."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I kind of
though
that was part of
the MP attitude
towards building certain ideas. If you lack
the captital
to not roast your leg and can't ask for money, you eat yourself.
decimation: mats: heh yeah you are right. I
think he was
trying
to convey several points: 1.) half measures don't work - shoot down
the
third world shuttles when
they invade 2.) democracy
turns
to decadence -
too weak
to hold
the allodial rights
to a domain
mircea_popescu: so apparently bitcoind has a serious problem with moving
timezones
BingoBoingo: peterl: No, you are
trying
to add context absent from my proposition.
peterl: So you are saying
they would raise capital and
then use it
to buy D shares?
Mats_cd03: decimation: elysium's production value was incredible. props from peter jackson's failed halo movie made it into elysium, like
the flying machine
peterl: I don't
think I meant
to?
BingoBoingo: peterl: You didn't quite hit
the contrapositive of my position.
decimation: I
think bingo means why would
they buy D series from mircea
peterl: BingoBoingo: if
they had capital, why would
they be selling shares?
kakobrekla: i guess we shall see about
the practice part.
mircea_popescu: no but
there's no difference between avoiding a debt and making a gain. inasmuch as
the offer is
there, it's indifferent who you buy from. if you buy from me you prevent someone else from doing so, who will in
turn have
to buy from
the "Founders"
BingoBoingo: decimation: If
they need capital why would
they buy shares?
decimation: presumably
the 'founders' who believed in
their company would buy shares
too
mircea_popescu: anyway, it exposes
the hostile agents
to a hard case of
the "either stupid or evil" dilemma.
peterl: but buying from you does not get capital
to
the people who would make it work
mircea_popescu: i expect anyone who actually
thinks one of
the
things is worth money
to buy from me first, yes.
peterl: do you expect people
to actually buy shares from you, or will it just be a way
to expose
the sham
they are running?
mircea_popescu: no.
this is a way
to expose
the usg agents
trying
to push bitcoin a certain way.
mircea_popescu: if you can't sell more, and even if you have good reason
to suspect you won't be able
to sell more, you have no furhter reasopn
to even
try
peterl: ah, so
this is a way
to make money off
the endless stream of derps?
mircea_popescu: that's
the whole selling point of a series a : "buy before
the masses"
mircea_popescu: problem with
these deals is
that
they're not for derps.
mircea_popescu: because now
they are actually going against sanity, much like
the "havelock users"
that somehow "bought"
the re-ipo, briefly at 200% averages
mircea_popescu: kinda makes it difficult for
the shills pretending
to be buying from
the guy.
mircea_popescu: now suppose 7/11 down
thestreet from him sees
this and puts up an ad : "same
thing. 75c"
mircea_popescu: peterl perhaps. suppose some guy comes
to your
town and starts seelling bottled water as "magical healing elixir"
peterl: What happens if
they sell out
to a big company instead of listing?
peterl: And if
they never list
their company publicly, you just get
to keep
the money?
BingoBoingo: ;;later
tell BingoBoingo you should do some pharacology posts
BingoBoingo: Complicated in
the same way
that earned Amphoteracin
the nickname Amphoterrible.
peterl: I figured. is
there a simple way
to understand it?
peterl: and how does
that squash
them?
peterl: so I was reading
the
trilema about
the D series
assbot: Elysium: Neill Blomkamp Fools
the Critics Again -
Taki's Magazine
kakobrekla: chill
the fuck down assbot, you are not.
BingoBoingo: I
think at my lowest points I made a couple
tanks of gas off of
them. Stopped because
their editorial policies made anything useful impossible.
mircea_popescu: While Demand Media went public for a blistering $2 billion in 2011, its articles were largely useless, with
titles ranging from "How
to Boil Water"
to "How
to
Turn on a Mac Computer." Google, in an effort
to serve up quality content
to its users, dropped Demand's articles down in
the search results.
The company's
traffic plummeted and its shareholders were left researching "How
to Write Off a Worthless Stock."
BingoBoingo: And no one does anything because
they can painlessly numb away
their failure.
BingoBoingo: If getting fucked up has no consequences no one appreciates
the danger of it.
BingoBoingo: That would eplain your dissatisfactions with
Timisoara's direction
BingoBoingo: Honestly I doubt anything could end civilization faster
than booze without
the hangover, but
then... You see
those opiates collapsing US civilization.
assbot: Hall of Famer
Tony Gwynn dies at 54 after cancer battle | MLB.com: News
moiety: i have given up
trying
mircea_popescu: you can
tlel people anything you want,
they're still gonna imagine drugs are cool mkay
BingoBoingo: On
the plus side
though people would do anything for a bitcent.
moiety: This hasn't changed. You can explain until you are blue in
the face. People do not want
to listen/learn.
BingoBoingo: Also so many people fell for other idiots pitches where
they were making asics in
their garage. It was a nightmare.
BingoBoingo: They could not understand Cex.io was a PMB with greater risk
to
themselves.
BingoBoingo: The Coinchat
tard were largely forum
tards for whom
the forum could not burn
their money fast enough. And without and option
to remotely fry
their retinas I had no stick with which
to educate
them.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Wanted
to purchase exactly what
the bet could underwrite.
TheNewDeal wanted something better. Even if mike_c's payment would have been lower it was infinitely more attractive because
the bet could underwrite itself.
BingoBoingo: This goes into
the distinction between mike_c and
TheNewDeal
trying
to buy into my no bet against
the same hard boundaries and only one of
them speaking a language I could agree
to.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, people kept buying cex inspite of
the PMB article.
BingoBoingo: It doesn't work. I
tried
throwing around
trilema cookies when
TF's coinchat was a
thing.
mircea_popescu: if all it
took weresome
tcredits
to make someone smart...
BingoBoingo: Well, people still need
to buy participation in
the form of
Trilema credits
to keep up with
the cool kids.
The bottom of
the class will never understand
the distinct difference in value returned.
mircea_popescu: and you know, collect 20 bux a week in exchange for equipment
these idiots "use"
to make
the sun keep rising
mircea_popescu: someone should make
the club of "responsible people
that keep
the sun rising"
mircea_popescu: which in
turn creates a class of guys selling
them participation.
mircea_popescu: the death of critical
thinking in school curricula has inter alia resulted in
this mass of idiots who will
think
they're important and meaningful no matter what.
BingoBoingo: Where
the consistent loses are merely club dues.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla so clearly it's bvetter
than all other investments. stop
trolling :D
kakobrekla: i dunno.
the asset
they
trade only goes down.
BingoBoingo: At its birth Cex has derps by
the ISIS
truckload.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: I'm
talking on
the low end. Last summer.
mircea_popescu: well, it was promoted also by a set of
tards
that promote everything
BingoBoingo: Cex.io is going
to cause much more butthurt
than Gox ever could and it was promoted by
the same
tards.