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trinque: btw my work for the day shall be getting phf's vtools into the cuntoo build, after which first cut should be done.
asciilifeform: billymg: pretty much errybody here is at the stage where '1e6 hours worth of meaningful work, but only so many in life' -- but i gotta say i prefer this 'problem' to the alternative
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wake up and there's like... cool shit made! seemingly overnight!
billymg: i must say it feels nice waking up and having meaningful work to do
asciilifeform loox forward to reading
billymg: mircea_popescu: that's the plan, hoping to publish a few "guide" posts
asciilifeform: billymg: diana_coman is the current bleeding edge pilot user, she may be able to answer specific q's re practicals
billymg: asciilifeform: would love to try that out
asciilifeform: billymg: you may want to try trinque's beta cuntoo, on local box, it ships with godly gcc.
billymg: will need to rebuild again on that box using http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295
asciilifeform: billymg: gcc >=5 is broken, this is clearly spelled out in the l0gz
mircea_popescu: so keep notes, and then there's your first article for free -- "how i pressed mp-wp to give self proper www".
billymg: logs seemed to indicate that trb on gcc > 5 simply won't work
billymg: i tried pressing trb on a gcc >5 gentoo box and iirc that went fine but make failed
BingoBoingo: How is rockchip life treating you billymg?
asciilifeform: * billymg (~billymg@161.0.121.194) has joined #trilema << oh hey welcome to rk, billymg
mircea_popescu is too lazy to make trilema article out of it, but imo some valid points of policy in there.
mircea_popescu: but read the paste, would you, it's actually interesting for once.
mircea_popescu: see, i pump out k's/day, i get back about 60-70% or so (imagine that!) the 90% of which directly to bin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're scatterback from my own bots.
asciilifeform: iirc they all have a perlistic 'gurl generator' going 24/7
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sounds , to my untrained eye at least, like spam from the site itself
mircea_popescu: i suppose people'd fall over if they discovered i own the most messaged-to acct on fetlife.
mircea_popescu: fwiw i simply discard lots and lots and lots of "705babygirl 23F sub 1m What?" ; they come in at the rate of a few / minute, and who the fuck cares anyway. "think of it as an intelligence test -- that you failed", right.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's hard out there for a fat would-be whore that gets one message a year.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i gotta wonder, do they answer erry nigerian 419 also ?
mircea_popescu: he has a point there.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what boggles my mind is that they dun see the plain fact that if yer response to 'oh noez, spam' is to sit down and write missive, you're ddosable with 1 finger << Pretty good measure of social placement. Do you need to filter all comers, or can you reply to spam without surrendering all the time.
asciilifeform: 'you asked me to serve, who are you to ask this' etc
mircea_popescu: anyway, "inclusive female objectivism" entirely contradiction in terms.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the aggrieved chix, whose spew mircea_popescu posted on several occasions
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whats the spam discussion about ?
mircea_popescu: moreover, the "difference between law and fetish is that law -- universal" immediately breaks down when i don't subscribe. and i can't be excluded, either, because that's the fucking value the whole thing's supposed to be predicated on.
asciilifeform: what boggles my mind is that they dun see the plain fact that if yer response to 'oh noez, spam' is to sit down and write missive, you're ddosable with 1 finger
mircea_popescu: but the points stand : equalitarianism and relativism ARE self-defeating ; there's nothing substantial to distinguish any fetish from any other fetish, and "niggers are people too" or "i am woman hear me roar" just as fetish and identically as fetish to furries or trannies.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is pretty plain that the 'oh noez, you spammed me! i'ma write lengthy whine' chixx didn't grow up in '90s
mircea_popescu: as slavegirl observes, "im sure the entirety of fetlife is offended!"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the fuck-them-with-their-own-overton-window front, my latest contribution on fetlife : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qyG9q/?raw=true
asciilifeform: and hence asciilifeform's interest in re mapping out the net and seeing how much living tissue, where.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 15:27 mircea_popescu: yes a bacillum is high tech arcana when compared to the mouthdribbler. nevertheless, the selector among high tech arcanna is precisely the bulk of undifferentiated biomass.
asciilifeform: ties in nicely with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1861840 thrd, also. inca needs mass of 'african children' to be 'neutron absorber', anyffing, anyffing to keep the functional folx from meeting up. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'I’ve been patient, I’ve been gracious / And this mountain is covered with wolves / Hear them howling, my hungry children / Maybe you should stay and have another drink and think about me and you.'(tm)
mircea_popescu: every mother ever told the independent-minded child precisely this, also.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 15:47 mircea_popescu: but the difference between integrated world and disintegrated world is specifically important, because common view of "postmodernism" is "woe poor man, overwhelmed".
mircea_popescu: the discussion of http://trilema.com/2017/fake-news-are-just-one-tail-of-the-failed-female-state/ dovetails here neatly : the ~illusion~ of "vastness" and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1861905 is deliberately constructed, specifically for the purpose. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the funny bit is that even if errybody turned on ipv6, the result would simply be 9000x moar brekekekex. cuz it'll still work.
asciilifeform: 'force'em into star topology'
asciilifeform: it's exactly this. 'hmm how do we nail warez. iknow, they'll never meet in the vastness of outer 6byte space'
mircea_popescu: exactly same thing as gavin "need more blocks" or buffett "taxes too low" etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i see ipv6 as , at least in part, a deliberate scheme to make p2p ~impossible.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 16:55 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1861970 << exact fig remains to be calculated, but orig point was that ipv4 is a small enuff 'room' that one can 'shout' in it and be heard.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1861989 << which precisely puts the gavinism of ipv6 in its proper context. "oh noes, think of those poor africans! how their exclusion would make republic work!!!" ☝︎
asciilifeform: at that point, your hydra has enuff heads that it aint beheadable.
asciilifeform: all this means is that you gotta do the initial infect , via whatever way, to get coupla 10k nodes.
asciilifeform: if all you got is 2 boxes randomly firing udp, they can sit for years and not meet
mircea_popescu: but yes it's trivial to do the maff to show that cost of acquisition vs timevalue of connection comes out green
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i noted as much ( re 'birthday' ), but did not bother to calculate the actual , aha
mircea_popescu: i'm not saying the mechanism's dysfunctional ; i just said your specific statement of probabilities was wrong
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct, it worx for a spell ( how long, depends on the particular shitrouter )
asciilifeform: when you send a udp packet, it opens 'ephemeral' path through nat, that for a spell can hear a 'reply' ( which on may nat's, does not actually have to come from the same ip you transmitted to )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the sense that conn works either way, yes.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-09 16:24 asciilifeform: ( observe that for hole punching, the 'server' does not need to be a heavy duty box that sits as 'star topology apex', but can be any of one or more boxes among the nodes themselves , at a particular time, with external ip. )
asciilifeform: other interesting bit is that brute-force 'udp on random ports' worx great for http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-09#1723494 pill against nat ☝︎
asciilifeform idly wonders what % of current net traffic actually consists of this brekekekekexkoaxkoax
asciilifeform: so i suspect the actual # of packets ( and time ) req'd , goes down ~geometrically~ with the # of working noades
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also complicating the maffs is that the 'time req'd to be head' depends not only on particular node's 'shout', but those of ~others~
asciilifeform: ( at least by those with ears )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 16:25 mircea_popescu: the probability to observe less than one event in a 85899 assay set is what, 18% or so.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1861970 << exact fig remains to be calculated, but orig point was that ipv4 is a small enuff 'room' that one can 'shout' in it and be heard. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( consider, somebody had to catch'em, alive... )
asciilifeform: not cheap, to ship 1500 megarats
asciilifeform: bought, at some cost, at one time i saw the period docs
BingoBoingo: They bought, or is that cover story for rare goal scored by CIA?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in ru there's a massive hunt going somewhere, they were dumb enuff to buy 1500 beasts from usa in '50s and spread in forest 'for fur industry'
BingoBoingo: "Police say they have shot and killed six raccoons since Sept. 1 in Belleville"
asciilifeform: then you get an 'adult' ipv4 to do as you please.
asciilifeform: this is 1 of the reasons why the 'gold medal' for crapware folx today is usually to infect the nat boxen themselves.
asciilifeform: plus there's the fact that nearly all konsoomer boxes (i.e. potential bots) are behind nat.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 16:14 mircea_popescu: which is why all the "oh noes advertise ip" bla bla machinery is always a sign of idiocy on the part of "designer". trbi needs "ip backflow" like i need power rangers in my living room.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1861967 << tbf, taking a net to the # of nodes where blind shooting is reasonably fast peer finder, takes a '1st stage rocket' of some form ☝︎
mircea_popescu: one of these days ima have to learn math.
mircea_popescu: the probability to observe less than one event in a 85899 assay set is what, 18% or so. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 15:13 asciilifeform: the ~86k packets is a worst-case avg, obviously, per 'birthday theorem' it will succeed almost certainly sooner
mircea_popescu: which is why all the "oh noes advertise ip" bla bla machinery is always a sign of idiocy on the part of "designer". trbi needs "ip backflow" like i need power rangers in my living room. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 15:10 asciilifeform: in the former case, it only needs to send 1 per second, to find a peer within 24 hours.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-13 15:00 diana_coman: possibly, no idea really; but what, they just send random udp stuff on all ports?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1861810 << there's a list of things to send. kids are made douchebag through the process of finding said list, noticing "it works!" and going from there. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the old sages were onto this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but yes, evidently fenrir came for them.
BingoBoingo: Collects all the griefers and cheaters so the WoW incels can continue in piece
mircea_popescu: thing is utterly indistinguishable from typical usgistani office drone "job", of data entry. it is a wonder anyone "misses work" to "play wow". exactly like "breaking law, not ate mcdonalds, ate burger king". wut ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: forestall the small wolf, be eaten by the great wolf...
BingoBoingo: "Fortnight" is what the kids call it
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you're thinking a decade ago. they fixed this. << This. They have this "battle royal" thing now where everybody laffs over how they all die in vain
mircea_popescu: there is literally nothing whatsoever to achieve and no means to achieve it left.
asciilifeform: did they ? i admit, did not follow subj, soured on it thoroughly in early 00s
mircea_popescu: you're thinking a decade ago. they fixed this.
asciilifeform: even there, grows. hence the whines re 'griefers' , 'cheaters'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform will not grow in engineered world. hence the wow example.
mircea_popescu: last september, computer ~= bong. guarantees nothing besides "lots of unearned income". as a result, wow is NOT similar to heroes 2