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mats: perhaps. do you see meaningful expansions ?
<< how about the production of communications to include voice, where there is a written record of it? e.g. transcript of wiretap log
mats: mats is like the oracle on the topic now!
<< not sure if you're criticizing what i said there
mircea_popescu:
<mats> mircea_popescu: are you interested in loosening the requirements?
<< perhaps. do you see meaningful expansions ?
mircea_popescu: buttonwood_> There has to be a better way to do otc trades tho.
<< nope. isn't, for provable reason. isn't happening in practice, either.
mircea_popescu:
<mats> multi sig and escrow are essentially bad patches to a broken trust model
<< mats is like the oracle on the topic now!
mircea_popescu:
<buttonwood_> I've been really interested in applying the smart contract technology to bitcoin-otc. Are there currently any active smart contracts or oracles doing escrow trading on bitcoin irc ?
<< no. people do thje trust calculation by hand.
Pierre_Rochard: buttonwood_ Mainly because of the trust involved if you were to sell me an option.
< I’d say it’s mainly because the volatility and discount rate are going to be completely out of whack until fiat is destroyed
mats: 21:15:50
<+mats> multi sig and escrow are essentially bad patches to a broken trust model
<< in the way you mean to use it, that is
ben_vulpes:
<mats> use the ratings and talk to the raters
<< this. again and again, this.
mircea_popescu:
<jurov> now you do withdrawal, you need to gather and sign all of them despite it's the same 1Fx address
<< it's whjat i took this to introduce.
mircea_popescu:
<mircea_popescu> once you sign out of an output, it's out.
< o.O
mircea_popescu:
<mircea_popescu> jurov i thought we were discussing bitcoin as a spec, rather than bitcoin as a hack.
<< kakobrekla: seems txn are logically created on 1.
< afaik you can do it on 3 and just sign on 1
mircea_popescu:
<kakobrekla> first runs on airgap, second on my server in dc and third on my desktop
<< seems txn are logically created on 1.
mircea_popescu:
<mircea_popescu> bitcoind should broadcast verifiable txn submitted to it.
<< ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> txn are verifiable aren't they.
<< not really. transaction only includes txid of previous transaction which itself has the pubkey required for validation.
ben_vulpes:
<kakobrekla> ... something wrong
<< what is best practice? feedback from industry leaders would be useful here.
kakobrekla: every time address is added to wallet?
< if this is your common practice i think you are doing something wrong
mircea_popescu: Cubs in the Islamic State, the generation that will conquer Rome in shā Allah
<< boys are wearing the stupid face veil thing too now ?!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't know that the thing needs to cough up *any* transaction on demand.
<< one can make his own emacs scripts do whatever one wants. notthe job of emacs to provide a preloaded button for arbitrary tasks.
mircea_popescu: davout: "you want to do some btc related accounting? well, fuck you, the decimals after the second are a $1.99 in-app purchase"
<< seriously ? like a power chord that's not six inches long ?
Naphex:
<+mats> a man sees what he wants to see
ben_vulpes: "a single machine acting as a full node"
<< conformal has yet to answer any questions re: what the specs of this "machine" were.
ben_vulpes:
<jurov> [] hanbot rather a pickup line, maybe. "wanna write my eulogy?"
<< i have actually used this one
hanbot:
<jurov> mircea's looking forward to hanbot's obituary
<< lol what are you on about?
ben_vulpes:
<asciilifeform> [] this is the thing that always blew my mind about serious apple aficionados - they will pay, 20-100 usd, for a proggy that ought to be a 3-line perl script
<< funny, this
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> [] "the people" are simply stupider than they were even twenty years ago.
<< stupider? or more?
mircea_popescu: Despite their references to the successes of King Louis XIV, both of these books are still yoked by the exact same horse-blindering Churchillian reverence for all that is broad-franchise democracy, and in particular it’s always-in-tow little brothers, socialism and inflation.
<< this guy.
ben_vulpes:
<mats> [] ive been here a while and i still can't get over the high class white pussy strolling the streets
<< take any home yet?
thestringpuller: "fu guise i'm going home"
<< weird how south park is allusion is everywhere.
decimation: re: clocks in computers
<< yes, the "RTC" chip with its shitty lithium battery and low-quality quartz is pointless
mircea_popescu:
<decimation> asciilifeform: also I suspect the 'productive' who didn't like living next to ru have already left.
<< quite.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard: ^ definitive proof b-a is not a cult
<< butt...butt... we promote hate ?
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: live in seoul for a year, count the number of snot rags you turn black, and tell me we can keep doing this forever
<< entirely different matter eh ?
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: mp you know the logical conclusion to come of this is that i am somehow you, yes?
<< it is actually quite logical if you think about it. you're clearly part of this bizarro cult that consists of not being fucking niggers. and there's AT MOST one person that may conceivably even be interested in not being a fucking nigger at all.
danielpbarron: gribble> Rating change | Old rating 3 | New rating: Kelticfox > 4 > Anduck | Artisan coffee for Bitcoin and a Linux guru to boot!
<< handcrafted coffee now?
danielpbarron: "You cannot prove that man-made climate change is real because it's cold where I am right now"
<< nubbins` you think man-made climate change is real?
gribble: duffer1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 weeks, 0 days, 13 hours, 56 minutes, and 30 seconds ago:
<Duffer1> lies
mircea_popescu: mats: id imagine a feminist would approve of such female empowering tech
<< i approve, at least prima facie. and im pretty sure im the last feminist alive.
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes wait, this was a little girl ?
<< yeah
davout: undata: "is underwhelmed by the notion that a "wallet" should involve a websocket"
<<< how do you mean?
ben_vulpes: “If two rats are not adjusted to each other, one will chew the head of the other until it is destroyed,”
<< yesssss
mircea_popescu: jurov: and isn't winklevii?
<< yeah it is, bingoboingo
TomServo: mircea_popescu: what would have the contrary effect?
<< samples of many of the insightful conversation I've witnessed here over the years. Would do it for me at least.
mircea_popescu: jurov: why? once per second, in half hour you're done
<< you can throw six at a time, be done in five minutes
mircea_popescu: TomServo: I'd probably take steps to avoid this place if my first taste was the sexyginger video.
<< would you ? what wouldhave the contrary effect ?
mircea_popescu: davout: if it keeps taleb out and lets taaki
<< doesn't seem to be doing that tho.
mircea_popescu: davout: pete_dushenski: some interesting people we'd like to have around could very well not be so technically proficient
<< sluts belong in the bedroom not in the public forum.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: this is north america after all. not having a car is like not having a temperature controlled home
<< i didn;t know fish liked to drive up north.
mircea_popescu: davout: it's actually pretty lame that people *must* be cloaked to come here, even for the first time
<< why ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: the fastest, thickest, most luxurious car is --- not having to go places.
<< i still go places, even tho i dun have to.
mircea_popescu: mats: shipping container on wheels
<< he has a point you know. armored cars are meh. better off just go shoot whoever is going to be shooting you and be done wit hit.
mircea_popescu: Update 2 – Mike from CoinFire has posted a response in which he denies that his source has been identified
<< that derp is so un-credible by now...
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: Another sock puppet possible purchased account of Nubbins / Paul Revere.
<< i lolled
jurov:
<davout> it occurs to me it would be really nice to have a way to easily dice-generate an rsa keypair
<< needs just some 1585 dice throws to get two 2048bit seeds (from them prime search is sequential)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform net-connected electric chair for
<< haha!