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mircea_popescu: sure. but nobody cares what they say, the only attraction is their nudity.
decimation: but they parrot and derp about equality, femenism, etc
mircea_popescu: for all you know they're the tools of mp's world domination plans.
mircea_popescu: decimation not what i meant. what i means was, the proposition that somehow girls naked in the street are tools of the us bezzle. it's ludicrous.
decimation: somehow this was okay in Christianity 100 years ago but not today
decimation: I agree that the notions of puritanical modesty are hilarious. I was born in an old school Lutheran hospital (now closed) - my birth certificate's seal shows a doctor pulling a baby out of a vagina
mircea_popescu: purest historical accident. i can understand why us-ians would believe it, because they love to believe themselves relevant
mircea_popescu: at any rate, the notion that sensuality and the puritan caging thereof as displayed by the us (and uk before that) are in any way related...
mircea_popescu: they're too stupid to be the tools of anything.
decimation: mircea: re pussy riot: but ultimately they are tools of the western bezzle machine
mircea_popescu: it... still hasn't happened. the oppressed minority is still an oppressed minority.
mircea_popescu: you know these liniar projections never work.
decimation: I guess they are pretty close to the Turkic Tajiks
decimation: what about tartarstan
asciilifeform: decimation: because last i checked, the entire place converts to tajikistan in <100yrs.
mircea_popescu: the best thing for moscow today is if the rich kids started taking the girls nude on leashes on novskiwhateveritscalled
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is why im such a fan of things like pussy riot
asciilifeform wonders how applies to china, ought to ask the folks in the know
assbot: 'Dying' Russia's Birth Rate Is Now Higher Than The United States' - Forbes
asciilifeform doesn't live there now, but definitely gets it. if you grow up in ussr, '45 never really ends
mircea_popescu: dude do you see what sort of abused child grown up mentality is this ?
asciilifeform: pentium is great. but 'bk-0010' would've still been there.
asciilifeform: from russian perspective - silicone that won't be there if the border closes
mircea_popescu: are getting thrown away
mircea_popescu: and so the ak-47 shaped spatulas, 18lbs of solid pig iron
asciilifeform: good to occasionally hug things that aren't the rifle, also
mircea_popescu: however, that's not gonna make an omlet
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with owning a rifle, in good condition, and being ready and able to use it
asciilifeform: sorta like the kind of fellow everyone must know, that got back from afghan and sleeps hugging his rifle, does nothing as hobby but clean and oil it, cycles the bolt at the slightest noise in the house
mircea_popescu: putin gets this, incidentally.
mircea_popescu: i do understand it, but i am pointing out iot's not all that it's cracked up to be.
asciilifeform: gotta understand the mentality.
asciilifeform: 4kw fridge. that the germans, swedes, whoever, can't blackmail you with by withholding
mircea_popescu: fucking saratov fridges doing 4kw to slightly cool three galons
asciilifeform: a surprising fraction of soviet economy reduced to - obscenely inefficient method of producing sovereignty-enforcement hardware
mircea_popescu: every single piece of automotive machinery, from cars to trains, airplanes and anything else, that uses too much fuel to be economically usable is either russian make or russian design
decimation: I blame this guy http://jeffsachs.org/2012/03/what-i-did-in-russia/
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not the whole things, but lands were the scarce lives
asciilifeform: lenin suggested that the west 'will sell you the rope to hang it with.' not sure if this can be meant literally - could russia buy working nukes from the targets?
mircea_popescu: im a sovereign that doesn't even suck its own cock, how about that!
mircea_popescu: not true.
asciilifeform: was crap << complicated. if you want sovereignty - gotta crank out the hardware, best as you can.
decimation: yeah when you have a traubant factory that employs 50,000 people things are not going to work out well in the long run
mircea_popescu: now, its owners had the unmitigated idiocy of not keeping proper capital on hand.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the russian industry, such as it was, was crap. it was going to get sold for scrap anyway.
asciilifeform: the objective - entirely non-monetary - ensure that russian industry gets sawn apart for metals - was achieved.
mircea_popescu: decimation the country is the elite.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is rather like supposing that russia (default of late 90s) raped us banks
mircea_popescu: seems they assraped the us banks to me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't quite see it. so far, they got 50 bn or so, not paying it back
asciilifeform: (western hardware was difficult to get - trade embargoed, had to go through shill companies)
asciilifeform: in order to run warez
asciilifeform: decimation: start with the soviet mistake (circa mid-70s) of scrapping their own (interesting! e.g. trinary!) comp. research and deciding to copy western archs - e.g. pdp
decimation: ascii why don't the russians get into electronics/computer manufacturing? have they managed to chase away the talent?
asciilifeform: my (no means) expert understanding - they let themselves get arseraped by us banks
mircea_popescu: im really not that advanced just yet
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you ever have time, consider writing a piece about Ar circa '98-'02
mircea_popescu: (to add to the humour, in romanian "being pepsi" pretty much means being fucked up)
mircea_popescu: what, argentines are pepsi too.
decimation: I wonder if this has to do with the sudden uptick in acquisitions by the bezzle masters
asciilifeform is forced to reluctantly love chinese - they're the only 'pepsi' we've got left.
assbot: U.S. consumer prices show inflation ticking up| Reuters
mircea_popescu: how did they end up run by the mongols ?
mircea_popescu: everything's an immovable object for something or the other.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't rightfully say china is 'immovable object.' if you care to try 'irresistible force' there, we'll watch, cheer.
decimation: http://don-colacho.blogspot.com/2010/01/30.html When people stop fighting for the possession of private property, they will fight for the usufruct in collective property.
mircea_popescu: or maybe they do.
mircea_popescu: whoredom is heavily tilted in the direction of blondes, yet any girl i train can top any brothel she wants.
asciilifeform: they'll do buisiness, yes. and at some point, your operation takes off, you find your factory nationalized.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform everytrhing has its exceptions. what do i care what the statistics are ?
decimation: the original text isn't. click on a link and see the original: http://don-colacho.blogspot.com/2011/02/2862.html
asciilifeform: chinese 'WoT' (like in other asian nations) is very heavily tilted in direction of blood relation ☟︎
decimation: mircea, I suspect the sayings of don colacho would be an excellent way to brush up on spanish: http://don-colacho.blogspot.com/
mircea_popescu: then again, im the sort that learns the language and fucks local.
mircea_popescu: i've yet to have a problem with getting in the wot.
gribble: Guanxi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanxi>; What is Guanxi? | World Learner Chinese: <http://www.worldlearnerchinese.com/content/what-guanxi>; Want To Capitalize On China? You Better Have Good Guanxi - Forbes: <http://www.forbes.com/sites/languatica/2012/03/15/want-to-capitalize-on-china-you-better-have-good-guanxi/>
mircea_popescu: i can attest that when you can have their head, they're reasonable, fwtw.
mircea_popescu: not on their turf, anyway.
mircea_popescu: so then because of your dependency on azn manufacturers you conceivably want your business run there
decimation: there is a point to that. If you could become legally "untouchable" for a few $100k in bribes to the right people, that's of significant value
mircea_popescu: dead ends are eminently defensible. centers are centers of trade for that reason
decimation: well, it certianly isn't down the street from hong kong
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In any worthwhile endeavor the highest cost belongs to becoming initiated
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Not at all. I guess Imma have to blog.
mircea_popescu: i keep trying to get this out for awhile nao
mircea_popescu: so what does argentina contain that you need for your production line ?
asciilifeform: because not one of these actually contains everything you need for the production line
mircea_popescu: but if you want that, why the fuck would you not be in malaysia or russia.
asciilifeform: until you move in and try to get, e.g. smt resistors shipped in from malaysia
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it is not the place of start-ups to sponsor anyway
asciilifeform: Ar, india, etc. look cheap to the uninitiated.
BingoBoingo: I like how Bitpay couldn't even sponsor a game in a stadium actually suited to the sport.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what was looking cheap in the first place, or what were we saying ?
asciilifeform: doesn't look quite so cheap then, no?
BingoBoingo: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-ncaa-college-football-bowl-sponsorship-bitpay/ is closest I've found to Bitpay Pr so far.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: consider benkay's point. if i have to wrap sample pcbs in benjamins to get them through customs, this ought to be considered a cost of doing business in Ar
mircea_popescu: how people can be this stupid still amazes me. i mean sure, forum derps, okay, they're all by themselves.
mircea_popescu: today in the news, pretend you're a corp, pretend you've got 30mn investment, fail to have any pr whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: for something like importing machinery, definitely the former.
asciilifeform: don't know how to ask << makes a difference if this is a fixable condition (know who to pay off, etc) or more difficult (have the correct uncle)