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ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> such are the blessings of closed society : that art may flourish. democracy and social mobility allows for no such thing. //// or a *small* society --- but maybe i'm splitting hairs
moiety: chetty: i'm a disgrace i know XD i find it so hard when they are such idiots
kakobrekla: ;;later tell vexual log would be better off without your jewtube links.
chetty: moiety: don't you know women are not allowed to curse
punkman: let there be blog http://extemporized.com/
moiety: i upset the doge people last night
moiety: ;; later tell BingoBoingo I simply said "fuck you" to someone and the whole place started convulsing with butthurt.. and then made it worse by demonstrating remorse lvl : -40
mircea_popescu: so... they've modified themselves, to take more cock with less fretting.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user casascius: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=casascius | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=casascius | Rated since: Fri May 13 00:14:25 2011
mircea_popescu: decimation and so they have modified themselves. no man living with carlyle would regard the average existence of today's westerner as anything but the most abject imprisonment
decimation: lol Carlyle has the same "non-persons" theory: "If the unfathomable Universe has decided to reject Human Beavers pretending to be Men; and will abolish, pretty rapidly perhaps, in hideous mud-deluges, their 'markets' and them, unless they think of it??In that case it were better to think of it: and the Democracies and Universal Suffrages, I can observe, will require to modify themselves a good deal!"
mircea_popescu: well yes, but this was before a time people expected the king pick up their apothecary bill.
decimation: so to be clear, it used to be the case that in order for someone to seize "your" money, they had to show up at your house and take your physical coins
mircea_popescu: but that's exactly the concept. my slavegirl might not want to visit you in a room you can lock at your option.
decimation: Don't use Bitcoin because we can't take it away from you, at our option
decimation: mircea_popescu: Indeed, which is why this "alert" is so amusing. "Seizing or freezing bitcoins. Law enforcement officials may have difficulty seizing or freezing illicit proceeds held in bitcoins. Bitcoin wallets are encrypted and unlike money held in a bank or brokerage account, bitcoins may not be held by a third-party custodian."
thestringpuller: (cause it's true)
mircea_popescu: and so in this sense, it's not that bitcoin isn't insured in that way. it's moreover that bank deposits etc aren't, and the continuance of the fraudulent pretense to the contrary promulgated by various usg agencies among which the sec above strictly depends on it not being needed.
thestringpuller: what about the sense of car insurance?
mircea_popescu: that type of insurance is typical manufacturer insurance, "that the product be free of defects or replaced"
mircea_popescu: nobody can insure bitcoin in the sipc/fdic sense, because nobody can print them.
thestringpuller: only MP has the capital to actually insure anyone...
thestringpuller: how would you even insure bitcoins and who would insure them?
decimation: honestly that "alert" is a pretty good pitch for Bitcoin
decimation: why would you want to live outside the benevolent "protection" of USG?
decimation: "Not insured. While securities accounts at U.S. brokerage firms are often insured by the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC) and bank accounts at U.S. banks are often insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), bitcoins held in a digital wallet or Bitcoin exchange currently do not have similar protections."
decimation: here's how the SEC put it: http://investor.gov/news-alerts/investor-alerts/investor-alert-bitcoin-other-virtual-currency-related-investments
decimation: yeah you are right ascii, but you do realize that nearly all public and private entities in the US fall into that category
asciilifeform: is ipmi one of those 'may as well hang for a sheep' affairs, where folks use intel cpu, etc and know they're already owned anyway
decimation: interestingly, old dell RAC cards had a feature where you could actually "view" the monitor over ssh
decimation: but that can be had for even less money honestly
decimation: well, to me the major attraction beside the ip-kvm is the power cycle feature
asciilifeform: i never understood the popularity of the crud. an ip-kvm is what, a few hundy? why attach proprietary strange to your front bus?
decimation: I considered buying a server with that feature so I could remotely access it without a monitor
asciilifeform: who the hell has impi on a 'human' box ?
decimation: well, impi, remote access, all the same kind of thing
mircea_popescu: no such thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is one of those weirdos who actually turns his computer on and off ?!
mircea_popescu: let it not be said that irresponsible laziness has not made nice things
mircea_popescu: to be a modest chap, the logs kinda exist because i had this irresponsible attitude where i'd only log while awake, and so things got lost.
mircea_popescu: while the other in the right
mircea_popescu: yes. one of the mice was oi the cat's left side
decimation: after all, it's better to have no humans at all than to have kulaks etc
decimation: actually, at least one of the mice was probably on the cat's side
mircea_popescu: in other words, two mice disagreed once on how to split a chunk of cheese they had found. so the cat ate the cheese, and the mice.
mircea_popescu: only THAT is the correct way to solve all the world's p[roblems
mircea_popescu: decimation no no, "we should tax everything and put the money into '''research'''"
mircea_popescu: mthreat seems reasonable. were yopu able to find my 2012 bits or did i accidentally only send you one file of two ?
decimation: one can simultaneously believe global warming is a scam and also consider the coal plant down the street to be ruinous
mircea_popescu: benkay problem is that approach contradicts the "world peace" approach. not burn anytihng at hand but clothe and feed anyone at hand ?
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ok once I get Azelphur's, i'll turn them all into a mysql dump and send it to kakobrekla. Then once kako gets them on log.b-a, i'll just crawl-backfill.
benkay: i've always thought it a rather bad idea to be burning everything at hand, just on the principle that i don't want to be breathing crap all the time.
mircea_popescu: "lo and behold, we should be affraid that democracy is now in peril of falling out of the box and revoting cape horn"
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many of the inept scientists of today realise just how amusing their global warming pretenses are
decimation: Thomas Carlyle on the wisdom of crowds: "Your ship cannot double Cape Horn by its excellent plans of voting. The ship may vote this and that, above decks and below, in the most harmonious exquisitely constitutional manner: the ship, to get round Cape Horn, will find a set of conditions already voted for, and fixed with adamantine rigour by the ancient Elemental Powers, who are entirely careless how you vote." http://books.google.com/
mircea_popescu: such are the blessings of closed society : that art may flourish. democracy and social mobility allows for no such thing.
mircea_popescu: and the audience knew the craft better than any debutante.
mircea_popescu: consequently the producers were forced to iterate a lot and fail fast
mircea_popescu: turns out, it's that they were all produced for a small audience of the same people.
mircea_popescu: (and the same holds for opera)
mircea_popescu: here's an interesting if unrelated point : what characteristic of classical english theatre, cca 1600s, was shared by both classical french and italian, but not ever since ? so that 99.x% of all good plays, all good actors and all good performances have this one thing in common, that's not been seen again ?
mthreat: kakobrekla: also you'll have to figure out how to number entries before your current entry #1 (April 26, 2013)
kakobrekla: my logs are more work than worth
kakobrekla: but if theres a coherent version out there i can parse it
mthreat: yours only had march/april 2013 I think
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ship them to him ?
mircea_popescu: ideally this should be done once and cover the whole shjebang
kakobrekla: my logs are all fucked up i dun wanna parse that.
mircea_popescu: up to the point where he rebuffs roper you may entertain the notion more is a whole man. but after he admits he will grant the other's safety for his own safety's sake you know he's not.
mthreat: kakobrekla: I'll be parsing the log file asciilifeform provided, so I can put it in whatever format, or you can just take the irc log file and parse it on your end.
mircea_popescu: decimation nah, the climax was when he shows himself an eunuch
decimation: that very point was the climax of the movie (man for all seasons)
mircea_popescu: no such thing is clear.
benkay: that's when he discloses it. it's clear he's had the opinion for a long time.
decimation: indeed, giving those loyal subjects universal sufferage solves nothing
mircea_popescu: ie, once they get that schmuck to lie under oath and convict him of treason
mircea_popescu: benkay you will note that more only forms a moral judgement once he is no longer subject to his king
mircea_popescu: loyal subjects can not distinguish the situation where the sovereign is a dumbass from the situation where evil people are prevailing with their treason and schemes.
benkay: it boils down to he who may destroy is the sovereign?
mircea_popescu: lemme try for proper english over here.
mircea_popescu: this is yet again the degenerate form of the sybill attack for a degenerate wot
mircea_popescu: the situation where the sovereign is a dumbass can not be distinguished from the situation where evil people are prevailing with their treason and schemes upon the monarch by loyal subjects
asciilifeform: bus driver can demonstrably suck (machine careens of a cliff.) it does not follow that bus should be rebuilt with a steering wheel for each passenger - etc
benkay: decimation: my tortured imagination.
decimation: benkay: is that quote from the play?
benkay: my loyalty is first to god - and then the king.
mircea_popescu: a sovereign can not be demonstrably immoral tho is the problem
benkay: but if the sovereign is demonstrably immoral and god sayeth otherwise?
mircea_popescu: what is this revolutionary scandalous licentiousness where a subject may be allowed to pass himself as moral agent equal to his sovereign ?
mircea_popescu: yes well. more is a loyal subject of the king.
benkay: i'm referring to the character in the play/movie.
benkay: i've only seen the movie.
mircea_popescu: benkay you read what, the book ? saw the movie ?
benkay: unequivocal: the 98% are almost perfectly good, while the 2% are almost perfectly evil. After all, the 98% are nice to almost everyone, while the 2% are mean to those who are nice to almost everyone, and nice only to a tiny minority who are mean to almost everyone. Of course, for much of human history, this is precisely how morality worked, in many people’s minds. But I dare say it’s a result that would make moderns uncomfortable."
benkay: "Imagine, for instance, that 98% of the players are unfailingly nice to each other, but unfailingly cruel to the remaining 2% (who they can recognize, let’s say, by their long noses or darker skin—some trivial feature like that). Meanwhile, the put-upon 2% return the favor by being nice to each other and mean to the 98%. Who, in this scenario, is moral, and who’s immoral? The mathematical verdict of both eigenmoses and eigenjesus is
mircea_popescu: you are not humble and therefore can not be given a ton of power.
benkay: well i'm probably wrong, but STM doesn't actively work against KR - just refuses to help him in his immoral quest
mthreat: if he does that, i'll just have to recrawl to make the links work
mthreat: kako may choose to renumber the ids (used for the <a href> anchors) since he'll be backfilling prior to his current "epoch" day
benkay: this eigenmoses and eigenjesus stuff is interesting in that sir thomas moore follows the eigenjesus strategy