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mircea_popescu: i must be a native asshole the way i phrase these things, i had fully intended it be done yest, but look that it actually supports eventual reality.
mircea_popescu: well it's not done it before the 25th, so there we go :D
ThickAsThieves: "War of Life will offer one block of 500`000 (five hundred thousand) shares for a nominal value of 0.00003 BTC each, for a total equity value of 15 BTC starting on June 25th, 2014."
mircea_popescu: well it listed on the 25th
ThickAsThieves: i meant the ipo
mircea_popescu: there you go tat.
mircea_popescu: what's that, two weeks ?
mike_c: bitcoin side almost done. expect to ship it tmw.
mircea_popescu: pankkake: wait you can buy F.DERP too? << yeah, next month
thestringpuller: ;;later tell nubbins` You got a hook up on printing cardboard cutouts?
mircea_popescu: mike_c hows teh bitcoin side ?
ThickAsThieves: wasnt S.WOL sposed to fire yesterday?
chetty: long live the breakage
mircea_popescu: yeah, tools to break things with.
mircea_popescu: i'm an intellectual, and therefore a critic.
ThickAsThieves: Government warns of 'merciless' retaliation if US doesn't ban the actors' comedy
assbot: North Korea threatens war on USA over 'gangster filmmaker' Seth Rogen and James Francos Kim Jong-un assassination movie - People - News - The Independent
ThickAsThieves: has the topic of this NK comedy movie been brought up here?
ThickAsThieves: and someone needs to come along and fix it after youve gotten your way
ThickAsThieves: maybe your vision for the world has horrible implications
mircea_popescu: the problem with being hitler is that you can actually reach this point where you've read too much to be one.
ThickAsThieves: and you'll inspire someone to dismantle you
ThickAsThieves: maybe it took the bullshit of our current state for someone to inspire to create Bitcoin, in turn, maybe you are the next Hitler
ThickAsThieves: zoomed out, it does to me
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem too related.
ThickAsThieves: observing the ebb and flow of necessity and invention
ThickAsThieves: i kinda think it's all just smelling of roses
ThickAsThieves: some seek comfort, some seek truth
mircea_popescu: fundamentally, it used to be cheaper to surrender, now it's cheaper to not. fundamental change of paradigm
mircea_popescu: where's that hobbes quote about how everyone's life is basically the result of surrender to the state, which may at its option dispose of it ? thus everyone's a slave ?
chetty: ThickAsThieves, truth is cheaper
chetty: The court said Thursday that President Barack Obama exceeded his authority when he invoked the Constitution's provision on recess appointments to fill slots on the National Labor Relations Board in 2012.
mircea_popescu: i dun think so.
ThickAsThieves: opposed to compromise, deception, obfuscation
ThickAsThieves: well you are arguing for transparency, truth, efficiency, "realness"
ThickAsThieves: while i dont disagree, it does kinda feeling we're just bitching that liars and scammers exist
mircea_popescu: a free man is exactly NOT the guy who has to make a deal as to anything with anyone. none of this "to fly on the plane you must turn off your portable perfume dispenser" bs.
mircea_popescu: just like an artisan is exactly NOT the guy who has a three ring binder telling him how to move and what shovel to use when, as per company policy
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's my understanding that it's that apportioning that's the cause of evil.
mircea_popescu: famously plato tried to bribe the jury with 30 minae in socrates' case
mircea_popescu: whereas in english law you had a billion different causes for action. you can sue saying "this is a nice guy that has my cow"
mircea_popescu: either you sue this guy under the title that he's basiclaly human waste,
mircea_popescu: there's this constant negotiation and apportioning of things.
mircea_popescu: now contrast this with the very invasive modern style, as epitomised by the us system : you're allowed out of prison as long as you promise to not x y z
mircea_popescu: if not, the accuser was.
mircea_popescu: well basically, anyone having a problem with someone could sue before the city. the arguments reduced to "the other party sucks". if the suit was successful the other party was banished (killed, originally, but then they softened).
ThickAsThieves: maybe i used to, now i just know what i see in movies
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves to round out this point, do you know how justice worked in classical greece ?
moiety: ThickAsThieves: I've heard some places are taking taxes out automatically without saying so, is the 91 equivalent to some income tax rate or such? << totally can't pinpoint exactly. in one breath they say it's their fee, in the next it's the banks but i've never had fees from my bank for incoming before. lesson learned.
mircea_popescu: and so irrespective of anyone's wish, that's what we'll do.
mircea_popescu: im pointing out that now it just became cheaper to have actual freedom
ThickAsThieves: So to distill your post, are you saying that we give up freedom for i-cant-believe-its-not-freedom because it's easy/comfortable/safe and now you want some real-butter IRC because you tasted real-butter bitcoin? Or are you just pointing out that people typically think they are more free than they really are (or, at least, willing to acknowlege).
mircea_popescu: has nothing to do with cookies or such
mircea_popescu: the collision was, some guy made an order, trilema came back "pay x". he didn't. months later, other guy made order, trilema said "pay x" same x.
mircea_popescu: sounds like the guest. put your cookie back in.
ThickAsThieves: and i need to reinitiate my cookie
pankkake: it's the guest credits
ThickAsThieves: my cookie didnt work for a few days, then it did, but now i only have 4 credits left, or maybe thats' just the guest credits
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if i'm the guy who had the same trilema credits hash or whatever as someone else
assbot: The problem of enforcement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Duffer1: someone duped a zealot in order to sell something
ThickAsThieves: Convicted Heavy Metal ‘Christian’ Singer Admits Being Atheist, Duped Fans to Sell Music
BingoBoingo: chetty: You call the stupid dudes basic bitches
assbot: who the fuck sent 10.8 BTC to the "correct horse battery staple" brainwallet? : Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: need something that doesn't end in a thus tickling my expectation it's a feminine romanian noun.
chetty: hmm so what do we call stupid bastards ...there are more of them ya know
mircea_popescu: works incredibly well you know ? schmuck comes in here to mouth off xmj style crap, "replica, please!"
mircea_popescu: pankkake maybe we should start doing this preemptively.
pankkake: especially since it would be wrong to say replica then!
Azelphur: If you say "set the jumpers on that drive to replica" nobody has a fuckin clue what you are on about
mircea_popescu: Azelphur i beg your pardon ? they have changed the world!
Azelphur: the annoying part is that master and slave have been around since the dawn of time, it's a technical term and you can't just go write random bullshit, this is what people don't seem to get
pankkake: it's how most developers I know write test code
ThickAsThieves: So the manipulators on BTC-e dont even need to schedule pumps anymore
mircea_popescu: "at this company we have a strict insulting variablespace policy. all functions are to be named in reference of parts of female anatomy. all variables are to be named in reference of parts of male anatomy."
Azelphur: oh god not the slave and master thing again
pankkake: maybe they code in Django and are upset
pankkake: but they used Slave and Master
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "how to select a losing strategy out of an array of moves made by people who opveral made money"
pankkake: (despite the majority of immigrants being white people from the EU)
ThickAsThieves: "PAMM technology allows a trader to open a "Slave" Account and follow a trading strategy of another professional and experienced bitcoin trader (Master)." "Using PAMM Account rating, charts and feedback from other traders you can easily tackle the tough task of selecting a successful and professional Master to follow." ~BTC-e
pankkake: protect us from Anglo-Saxon culture, homosexuals and the free market, etc.
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if they regret 1984 isn't a thing. either as depicted in fiction or as enacted by the soviets, they want the dull gray concrete damn it
pankkake: and the French are clearly afraid of everything
pankkake: that's what I tell my fellow Frenchmen. the right is fairly popular, but also fairly socialist
mircea_popescu: is actually also one of the most rabidly conservative.
pankkake: not that it will change in any way how I shop. more money for amazon in the end… lol
mircea_popescu: i find it very amusing that france, one of the most socialist places in the history of the world,
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=traing%20collar | ... Training Day · Training Day'd · Training Day-ed · training film · Training for the Olympics · training heels · Training Issue · Training it ... traing collar isn't defined.
mircea_popescu: ;;ud training collar
pankkake: intern, slave, what's the difference? :)
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> I wonder if community manager is ever a real job. I've only seen interns do it << it's generally what you hire slaves under training collars to do as their first thing.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, you can have a whole language out of applying romanian grammar to english lexemes
gribble: Polari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari>; aGLIFF Film Festival: aGLIFF Festival | aGLIFF - Polari: <http://agliff.org/>; Polari - British gay slang - Chris-d.net: <http://chris-d.net/polari/>
punkman: it's trollari in greek too
pankkake: gendered trolls? awesome
mircea_popescu: trollerii : plural, masculine noun of to troll
mircea_popescu: troll in english taken as is by romanian (because romanian considers all languages merely badly spoken, more retarded cases of using romanian) and then flexion applied
Naphex: yeah, troll's slanged
pankkake: oh. so trollarii really means troll (that's why I tried to translate) :)