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mircea_popescu: how's the hangover ?
moiety: we've been in PM getting her reg'd with nickserv, half way through gribbling for the wot
mircea_popescu: cazalla: are you her pimp or something? Dekker3D: I'm her tech dude << the difference is negligible ? :D
mircea_popescu: Dekker3D: As far as I know, mircea's "anyway, drop your address" means that she should put her bitcoin address in here, anywhere. I'd write it for her, but it's more trustworthy if I just vouch for her and she writes it <<< yup that's a good point. seeing how you own this nick for 5 years and she just reg'd hers.
mircea_popescu: ninjashogun: it's kind of weird how you guys have all the money, and they're the ones who are serious. <<< lmao. yeah, TOTALLY weird.
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 16714376135.9 based on data since last change | 18031729744.8 based on data for last three days
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 630.0, Best ask: 632.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 632.0, 24 hour volume: 2441.09724497, 24 hour low: 623.23, 24 hour high: 639.31, 24 hour vwap: 630.796426752
mircea_popescu: moiety o so basically they're offering im chats ?
Naphex: 17:11 <+cazalla> shibe needs to be put to sleep << i loled hard
kakobrekla: ;;later tell artifexd just less broken, but np.
kakobrekla: not that anyone will buy with ltc, just the silver color is cool.
pankkake: but yeah if it helped break the "bitcoin and litecoin accepted" hope, great
pankkake: doesn't really change in the end, inflation is lower in % each year
dub: of course you need to keep printing more of it forever, just like dollars
dub: talking to an enthusiastic shibe in a bar the other night that was teh major selling point
chetty: cazalla, worse is when you wish it would get worse (so break already) and it just keeps the slow grind
assbot: Dogecoin to allow annual inflation of 5 billion coins each year, forever | Ars Technica
cazalla: fuck, you think it can't get worse but it does
moiety: it's better his fiancee left him now before the wedding. i don't think she understands the whole "for better or worse" bit
assbot: A place for Depressed shibes to chat about things and vent
punkman: cazalla, wow there's a whole reddit for depressed dogetards http://www.reddit.com/r/depreshibe
punkman: " I should have read more about the technical aspects of Doge before I invested but like a lot of people here I had so much faith that the community could conquer these things. But it seems that community means nothing when it comes to the success of Doge, the price is being driven and manipulated by the big money, the chinese whales and big money speculators"
punkman: "I've tried to comfort myself with examples of Bitcoin's drops from $30 to $1 before but this doesn't mean it's going to happen again especially because of Doge's very different properties"
cazalla: shibe needs to be put to sleep
dub: well the first meeting is on necker island see, and he's travelling by kite surfing on the back of a naked chick on branson's back
chetty: 30k to set up a meeting, I guess inflation is worse than I thought
moiety: unsure but he has an incredible skill for answering thingswith such long convoluted answers, you dont care by the end
dub: he needs 30 grand to setup meetings with vc's
chetty: the other interesting question is if he knows so many VC and all that whats he need investors here for?
moiety: i know, an added nice touch was preferring folk that didn't want to know what he was up to entirely.
cazalla: ;;rate ninjashogun -1 wouldn't call me on the phone
moiety puts ninjashogun's toys back in his pram
moiety: the world must be trolling him if no one wants his proposals. i think he'll be back.
cazalla: for some time he has said we're all trolls yet here he is again pitching us, makes me think he's a scammer afterall
cazalla: well i figured he best call the federal police in my country and explain it to them
artifexd: There is this tv show called "Storage Wars" where they auction off the contents of storage units whose bills haven't been paid. I wonder if a cloud storage provider could get away with something similar. "Don't pay your bill? We auction off your data."
pankkake: lol, nice trollage
ninjashogun: moiety - it's been a 100% explicit proof of what I've been saying for the past few months whenever I've been here. Tihs channel is useless trolls. Cazalla "gave me his number" to call and discuss further (normally, quite a normal first step!!!) Except he gave Australian's police number. Useless trolling.
ninjashogun: thanks for your time.
ninjashogun: Anyway, it sounds like nobody here has actually helped start startup-type businesses (off bitcoin), so I'm not going to waste more of my time. If someone is interested in learning more about either of the businesses I'm currently raising funds ahead of the seed round of, then you can PM me and I can give you all the details.
moiety: indiancandy1: if you need a hand registering with gribble and nickserv, feel free to PM me
moiety: ;; later tell mircea_popescu kik is just an instant messaging app but it works across all platforms and has lots of wee add-ons. i like kik
ninjashogun: meanwhile, cazalla's reference for me (unsure of releatoinship) has all of its top Google hits be about how it's a scam.
ninjashogun: You absolutely can talk in absolutes.
ninjashogun: "The best VC in the world, Sequoia Capital, whose companies account for an astounding 10% of NASDAQ’s market cap, has (according to trustworthy sources) only backed out on one term sheet in the last 10 years."
ninjashogun: see that?
assbot: Backing out of a term sheet | chris dixon's blog
ninjashogun: chetty, why do you think I have to spend my own money to get six-figure investments from them? Couldn't I just send a prospectus and have them wire some cash? It doesn't work like that. You need to do a TON and have a ton of meetings with them, sohw them EVERYTHING in minute detail.
chetty: ninjashogun, I dont think VC lets it make the news when they get scammed ...they get even
FabianB: indiancandy1: you'll be in a tab with nickserv where you can procede with registering
FabianB: indiancandy1: type "/query nickserv" wherever
indiancandy1: and it wil take me there
indiancandy1: so i type that here
ninjashogun: indiancandy1, go to #freenode for help
indiancandy1: so i type it
ninjashogun: you get only stories about founders (like me) being the ones to get scammed by the people who supposedly hvae the money. Why is that? Because due dilligence is actually quite easy to perform.
ninjashogun: chetty - I will also say this. How come VC's (venture capitalists) don't get scammed - when they write six, and seven-figure checks? If you Google "vc's scammed":
FabianB: indiancandy1: msg that to NickServ, not in this channel and without the < and >
ninjashogun: cazalla, now you also see why if you've never invested in anything or anyone, why I don't want to offer to be the first.
ninjashogun: cazalla - btw the above - linking "Contact - Australian Federal Police" - is exactly why I call this channel useless trolls. It takes about 15 seconds of talking with me to determine who I am and what I'm doing.
ninjashogun: chetty - yes, I agree. If you want to give money but have no references, they're the only ones who will take it from you.
chetty: if I want to give money without refs there are plenty of beggars on the street corner
ninjashogun: chetty - money is easy. Finding people who are interested in building something together and have the connections to help is harder.
chetty: ususally the one asking for money gives references
cazalla: just explain your scheme to them
ninjashogun: cazalla, now you see why I need a reference. It's very easy to waste someone's time.
ninjashogun: thanks, chetty. cazalla, I Googled your number to try to do some basic DD. https://www.google.com/search?q="61%2B+02+6131+3000"
ninjashogun: cazalla, I have a lot going on including raising this bridge from my exisitng network and VC network.
cazalla: i'm gonna need that phone call before we proceed
ninjashogun: cazalla, I might still be able to work with you. Maybe if this would be a first investment for you, you can team up with someone from here and do it together.
ninjashogun: cazalla - the issue is, I don't know. You could waste weeks of my time. (It's happened before - that's post-closing documents. meaning, everything has been agreed and closed.)
ninjashogun: If this would be the first time you invested in anything/anyone then we might still proceed but I'd like to know this ahead of time.
ninjashogun: I was just asking if you would be able to furnish one.
cazalla: if you're unable to afford to call me i'll assume you're not a serious player
ninjashogun: cazalla, have you ever invested in anyone/anything? if we proceeded, would you be able to give a reference?
cazalla: i don't have skype but i have a landline for you to call
ninjashogun: PM me your skype name and we can talk in 5 min.
ninjashogun: cazalla - yes, absolutely. For cost reasons we could start by skype first. (You'll also see the name of one!)
cazalla: ninjashogun: can you call me to discuss further?
Dekker3D: So I'm trying to find an easy way to get her into the web of trust.
Dekker3D: She'll need to exchange bitcoin for gbp at some point, which would likely require #bitcoin-otc. Which requires registration in the web of trust, afaik. And if she wants to earn more with shenanigans, as this other girl did, then she'll also likely need to be in the web of trust.
ninjashogun: The second is a services / consulting company in the field of jobs. cf. hired.com ☟︎
ninjashogun: The second one is in a really huge market - even before it had a NAME it had offers at high six-figure valuations, however I wanted to be able to pursue both of them.
Dekker3D: Here on the internet, the difference is tiny :P
ninjashogun: an tell a bit more to anyone who's interested.
ninjashogun: thanks. They're both high-tech startups, albeit of two different kinds. The public pastebin doesn't include too much informatoin but of course I expect you to learn about both. They're both just doing their seed rounds now - the first acutaly already has assigned IP, etc, and has developed (the basics of) interesting technology. As it's hardware, it's quite hard to seed and we need to keep vigilant about stealth but I c
Dekker3D: I'm her tech dude
Dekker3D: But at least I suppose it can make things easier for indiancandy1. She has a blockchain.info wallet
FabianB: if you have bitcoin-qt for example and can sign with the address
Dekker3D: How would I do that? Do I need to extract my private key from my wallet to sign something? because I'm using Mycelium.
Dekker3D: It seems I can register on the web of trust using a bitcoin address instead of a gpg key?
Dekker3D: Ah. She knows more about mircea's shenanigans then?
chetty: Dekker3D, I think only MP can answer about the true purpose of what he does
Dekker3D: By the way, if I may ask: is the whole "0.1 btc for a pic of tits" thing like a promotional stunt to get hot chicks in here, or is it just what it says it is?
Dekker3D: As far as I know, mircea's "anyway, drop your address" means that she should put her bitcoin address in here, anywhere. I'd write it for her, but it's more trustworthy if I just vouch for her and she writes it
Dekker3D: She's the same one from last time.
ninjashogun: For some reference, to set expectations, in the other channel (-otc) I've gotten bids on part of the money as low as 1.6x. However, the starting bid for the whole thing was something crazy.
ninjashogun: Oh, no the bid is on $30K, what multpile covers your risk (and a timeframe). I can tell you more about both comapnies of course - and feel free to PM.
ninjashogun: cazalla - we can talk about it. We can actually escrow it, you can send it straight to some of the legal services involved, when I meet with VC's (you can come!) you can pay for some of the costs, and legal review of the closing docs we're given. These are the major expenses.
ninjashogun: I mean "low-multiple bids", e.g. not something crazy like a very high number of x. However, I realize that the istuation may be seen to include some risk, so bid whatever you want.