asciilifeform: hm prolly i oughta have done it phuctor-style (where there's 1 .py and it can run either as wwwtron or 'eater' depending on cmdline params. )
asciilifeform: currently they do work separately, if one were to tunnel the pgism. but mp_en_viaje has the point, that 'who knows if this even will ever be needed'
asciilifeform: whythefuck throw the bot's connection simply to change colour of wwwism etc
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927665 << this , btw, will require some thought -- presently wwwtron has nfi 'when someone speaks' , can only query the db ( as can be seen in the 'last time anyone spoke' section of proggy ) which itself takes time
asciilifeform: i made the coloured blocks the lightest shade that'd still be distinguishable on my displays, imho this is Right Thing
asciilifeform: if nuffin is found to be catastrophically broken, will cut vpatch.
asciilifeform: achtung panzers : test of next ver of log www ; spyked you have the newtab thing ; mp_en_viaje you have the checkerboard (lemme know if would rather darker/lighter) ; asciilifeform gets http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log?rev=1 reversal
asciilifeform last yr had to take a crapple box in for warranty repairs there. garbage errywhere.
asciilifeform: right in front of e.g. crapple store (tm)(r) and the other pretentious heathen pits
asciilifeform: today -- no subway there. but hobos a-plenty.
asciilifeform: there was a similar wank in usa, incidentally, in '70s when the wash. subway was built. there's a 'posh' neighbourhood, georgetown, where the locals successfully lobbied against subway stop. 'will bring hobos!111'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: near as i could tell, they were 'protesting' the theoretical non-reelection of obummer. vanished within coupla days of 2012 continuation in office.
asciilifeform: old-timers in usa remember 'hobo towns' made of wood and cloth. but today's hobos -- go to 'sport' shop and buy tent.
asciilifeform: i have buncha photos somewhere, but all snoar, mostly tents
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: they had this in usa, massive public wank, 'occupy'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: ( no public word , naturally, in re how much coin the 'inspectors' w/ the prng key, walk out with, and with what regularity )
asciilifeform: typical cheats, in so far as they reach the open literature, involve the coin dispenser, rather than rng per se.
asciilifeform: the other interesting casinoism is that in usa, rng is a sealed box provided by usg. but iirc had already thread about this, in '13
asciilifeform: also, or goes the legend, anyone who was in some way party to the design of the game instruments, is persona non grata in casino (e.g., asciilifeform's brother, who has never set foot in a casino nor wanted to; one time his (long-defunkt) firm was contracted to make a pokerator... )
asciilifeform: was snoar ( to asciilifeform , who had to 'try 1nce' but otherwise indiff. to such pasttime ) . machine -- ate coin. left.
asciilifeform: put in coin -- maybe get 1 back , etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the 1 i actually went into, in timis, was in fact automated, like old arcades
asciilifeform: the dumb shits build'em on outskirts of city, tho, where hardly anyone goes
asciilifeform: btw 'vhs' people think 'america -- casino -- vegas!111' but in fact most of usa has some form of (bureaucrat-run) casino, and typically is little diff. from the ro item, and fulla 80 y.o. pissing away their last cent to ~simulated, 3d~ horse race
asciilifeform: or what were they called in orig, i fuighet
asciilifeform: i liked, ftr, how in e.g. timis, casino house on erry corner, and next to it a pawn where orc can pawn his last shirt + pnoje
asciilifeform: pictured, as consequence, modern ro as a place similar to india
asciilifeform: was astonished, that poor orcs would break backs over coupla hundy u.s in whatever scammages
asciilifeform: incl. some spam/shitware folx who had... rather porous system , and could see their internal lulz
asciilifeform: phunphakt -- for many yrs, asciilifeform's only exposure to ro folx was -- inhabitants of virii-themed forums
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: a, assumed that 2000s was continuation of '90s, same folx
asciilifeform: prolly will remain 'teletype' until make caching mechanism per mp_en_viaje's algo (or rewrite in cl) whichever comes 1st
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: indeed, in fact 6s here.
asciilifeform: early ro net is still largely 'dark matter' to asciilifeform ( tho moar penetrable than e.g. the finns; at least in ro human lang , lol )
asciilifeform: 'dj' imho oughta a) learn basic bash or b) stick to swapping vinyl records
asciilifeform: so server wants to dispose of the corpses (they occupy memory)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: thinking about it, it's outgrowth of tcp retardation, where having the client alive costs the server at all times
asciilifeform: in trad irc, server periodically asks 'PING blah' and client expected to 'PONG blah' back (why? if it's a tcp pipe? what's the whole point of tcp, orig, if not to avoid this? dun ask me)
asciilifeform: current snsabot ignores all fleanode-generated rubbish (only processes traditional messages, such as spoken in chans, errything else is dropped silently)
asciilifeform: so far the only fleanode nail i've stepped on, is that 'maybe you joined chan or maybe not' thing
asciilifeform: ( nor do they have any relevance to how to write bots )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: afaik we dun use these for anyffin
asciilifeform: while on subj of logger : mp_en_viaje do you still find that 'teletype' ? current ver is ~2x faster than 1st
asciilifeform: ( in re knobs, 1 optional toggle that asciilifeform wanted for many yrs -- but dun have yet -- is a 'reverse gear', i.e. display log 1st line on top of screen and down. but this, also, later. )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: tried to make 'new tab'ism go this morning, when spyked mentioned it, but it'll take some fiddling -- interacts poorly with the regexp-based link highlighting i used in this hasty drumhead logger. so prolly won't happen until much later.
