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cazalla: so that doesn't work
mircea_popescu: otherwise, nobody has any capital. inasmuch as they can't just wire it to bin laden's boys if they choose to.
mircea_popescu: but ok, if you live off your bitcoin investments, then yes.
mircea_popescu: he thinks himself a burgher. the guild begs to differ.
asciilifeform: easier to go with the ancient formula - live off salary? peon. live off capital? burgher
mircea_popescu: that's the deep problem with the baker not wanting to bake gay cake.
mircea_popescu: same thing.
mircea_popescu: ok, so tell your boss you're not doing X. period.
mircea_popescu: that's what burghers got : the franchise, ie, th right to express themselves.
asciilifeform: might be too easy - some folks have very apathetic inquisitors attached
mircea_popescu: any other outcome, such as not having a blog, or the word on your keyboard, or a job after ?
mircea_popescu: the measuring stick is very simple to implement : post on your blog something about niggers.
asciilifeform: let's go straight to the guild. the proverbial google grunt, who pays 150k usd / yr. to live in auto range of his 200k gig - is he a proper burgher? or peon imposter?
mircea_popescu: hence all the "red pill" talk.
mircea_popescu: a critical mass of laborers that stop trying to pretend like they're burghers could well be the end of it
mircea_popescu: kinda why college education is so important, and its widening so unavoidable, and including the blacks so paramountly important.
mircea_popescu: but it ain't changing the substance, as good packaging as it may be.
mircea_popescu: granted, having the rest pretend like they're included rather than being shot a la franco is a great accolade for the burgher press
nubbins`: y'know, i come here for the socioeconomic discourse more than anything else
asciilifeform: with mechanisation of agriculture, everyone is stuck pretending to be a burgher
mircea_popescu: the multitude of laborers that'd like to pretend themselves townsfolk ?
asciilifeform: housing racket is just one of the mechanisms used in usa to separate folks from their 'excess fat', but it is the one best visible to unarmed eye
nubbins`: korea has been slowly migrating to seoul since the 50s
asciilifeform: even the supposedly 'rich'
mircea_popescu: god i love this before device.
asciilifeform: in usa, the discussion concerns more or less everyone
chetty: well with all the landgrab people are getting forced into the urban areas
mircea_popescu: if he is, then this discussion is not about him.
mircea_popescu: 1k ounces of silver for a property is less than what it was. "before".
mircea_popescu: no, objectively. what was it, 30k to buy ?
asciilifeform: ohio is 'cheap' to the californian who never sets foot there.
asciilifeform: notice also that the 'technology' - as in, the nature of the actual 'machine that keeps the rain out' has regressed, rather than advanced.
mircea_popescu: "before" the poor laborer only lived in town if an actual townsman took him as a household slave.
asciilifeform: housing - at least in usa - is where the real racket is.
asciilifeform: the only interesting costs, to monitor, for the question of 'what could worker afford then vs now' is food and rent
mircea_popescu: single worker, before. ate red meat for the first time in his life... accidentally.
mircea_popescu: were killed for food and the villagers tasted red meat for the first time in their lives. "
mircea_popescu: food supplies rationed until fields could be tilled and the harvest came in. His fighting bulls
mircea_popescu: "When war broke out, the village was collectivised and
asciilifeform: can't live in an 'ipad' though.
cazalla: can he buy more mcdonalds though
mircea_popescu: it's just you somehow decided it's ok for the worker to buy magic tools nowadays.
mircea_popescu: he can buy more grain than before.
mircea_popescu: only because you use a bizarre standard tho.
pankkake: a single worker has less purchasing power than before
pankkake: I don't think this is a "natural" change
mircea_popescu: pankkake i don't follow this argument.
pankkake: tax structure. work is heavily taxed, services often offers tax reductions
mircea_popescu: they're just trying to serve.
mircea_popescu: this entire nonsense depicting feminism as a woman driven thing... heh. mkay.
mircea_popescu: it's all male driven. even if not driven by most of the males. it's driven by the males that matter, which are the males women care about anyway.
mircea_popescu: this predates the sufragettes by about half a century.
cazalla: funny that men didn't have problems paying the bills, mortage etc when women stayed at home
mircea_popescu: cazalla men decided to value women that value other shit than homekeeping.
cazalla: yes but it's only not a choice because women decided to value careers over being a homekeeper
mircea_popescu: pankkake which simply means that man shouldn't have a family in the first place.
pankkake: for many, it's not a choice anymore - the man only can not afford to feed his family… when there is a man
mircea_popescu: chetty not to mention all those kids at the border :p
mircea_popescu: but now you're discussing degree, not the principle of the matter.
cazalla: sure, as he grows up but some of this women stick their kid in day care at 3 months just so they can get back to work, seems a critical time for mother/child
cazalla: even that would not help my wife
chetty: mircea_popescu, foster is different, child services just loves to take and place kids
mircea_popescu: and your kids are only going to make you proud if they spend time with strangers.
mircea_popescu: cazalla it makes the following sense : your wife will only learn to fuck so well it'll surprise you if you send her to work in a brothel.
cazalla: it just doesn't make sense to pay someone else to raise your kid, someone that you don't really know, seems more a convenience for parents so they can work to purchase trinkets
chetty: abortion on demand tends to produce a shortage of adoptable babies
pankkake: most adoption agencies said gays won't be a priority, so adoption through that is going to be… never
mircea_popescu: pankkake i dunno about that.
pankkake: there really isn't a lack of parents wanting to adopt
mircea_popescu: pankkake nor does it make much practical difference. it's like better daycare, if they didn't adopt they'd be hired to care for those kids in a state run institution.
pankkake: well given that most couples appear to be females, there's not much you can do anyway
cazalla: that it too had problems
cazalla: well yes you said this many months ago when you said it was xenophobic
mircea_popescu: unsurprisingly, your thinking has problems.
mircea_popescu: cazalla there's no wrong dude. you think whatever you think.
cazalla: so am i wrong to oppose gays marrying and raising children?
mircea_popescu: "It's a fact. Yeah. You see, uh, Sicilians have, uh, black blood pumpin' through their hearts. Hey, no, if eh, if eh, if you don't believe me, uh, you can look it up. Hundreds and hundreds of years ago, uh, you see, uh, the Moors conquered Sicily. And the Moors are niggers."
mircea_popescu: which, to quote mr whorley,
mircea_popescu: even so spanyards today are about as white as the sicilians.
mircea_popescu: at the time spain was 12 million, england was 2.8, and the only thing keeping everyone from sucking caliph cock was the difficulty in traversing 5000 miles with an army
mircea_popescu: ahahah these fucking idiots lmao.
mircea_popescu: ‘Spanish grandeur was at its height in the Sixteenth Century, when the sun never set on her dominions. Our great century, the century of the mystics, the saints and the artists. The century of the Spanish Empire! Well, do you know how many inhabitants our fatherland had then when it was truly great? Twelve millions! What does it matter is half the population has to disappear if that is what is required for us t
cazalla: as long as we respond to whatever it is he wanted, his demands cease, doesn't seem like personality to me
mircea_popescu: then being puzzled for the second while it settled down back in his mouth
cazalla: ours is a good baby though, started sleeping through nights from 3 months, only cries if hungry, not demanding at all
mircea_popescu: and baby kept kicking tit out of his mouth
mircea_popescu: actually i recall this hilarious scene where mother was trying to feed baby while bent over it, using her hands to work
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mircea_popescu: cazalla just that some kids grab the tit and some don't is enough.
chetty: cazalla, but even that has parameters, some are more demanding for instance
chetty: mircea_popescu, yeah, but even the idiots are not blanks
mircea_popescu: chetty personality is not intelligence however. idiocy speaks to the noggin not the thymus.
chetty: cazalla, trust me kids have a personality from day 1
mircea_popescu: yah, that'd be the definition of idiocy. blank state.
mircea_popescu: which is obviously where things are going, but anyway.
cazalla: i prefer to look at my son as a blank slate, perhaps even a fresh start :P
mircea_popescu: the only practical way to keep the women intellectually stimulated enough in your scheme is to make a harem.
cazalla: they've just been sidetracked with this have a career at the same time
asciilifeform idiocracy << prefers the old, paper version, 'the marching morons'
cazalla: yeah, i know where you're headed with this