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asciilifeform: doesn't have to be gps proper.
decimation: you don't have to go to north korea: can simulate gps signal: http://www.labsat.co.uk/index.php/en/
decimation: heh you mean the gps?
asciilifeform: take the agilent scope, and fly it to north korea
decimation: heh yeah, most of what you pay for is in the tracking oscillator
decimation: heh yeah the a/d converter next to the 'bodge wires' is only 40 MHz 12-bit
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asciilifeform: you get parts that fall off x years later.
decimation: yeah I guess if they aren't tight you are going to get alot of cold joints
asciilifeform: tension on the pads
decimation: I think you typically glue the components down first
decimation: actually the best solution is probably a wave-soldering machine
decimation: it looks half-ass though
decimation: on the youtubes people just use a squeegie
asciilifeform: decimation: not only this - but you need a fairly costly 'printing press' to apply the paste evenly through the gasket.
decimation: yeah I guess a proper solder template is made of metal
asciilifeform: my tube (40 watt) won't cut steel.
asciilifeform: decimation: at present time, i apply the paste with a pump. tried plastic templates (laser cut), wasn't satisfied.
decimation: like the plastic that you put over the board so you can apply the solder paste?
decimation: ascii did you use your laser cutter to make solder masks?
indiancandy1: im coming over to ur house
asciilifeform: gotta love the 'bodge wire' (patch.) ~25 min. in film.
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asciilifeform: i see nothing in there that couldn't be milled on an ordinary desktop cnc machine.
decimation: I wish I had access to a high spec metal mill
asciilifeform: also note that the machined cavity is SOP in military electronics
decimation: in a proper technology company you would keep your high-end engineers busy building esoteric stuff, while their knowledge & expertise trickles down to other areas
decimation: "agilent" is going to go to the bio-bezzle company
decimation: "keysight technologies" will be the name of the new test&measurement division
decimation: I know, but they are going to spinoff again
asciilifeform: agilent is just the old hp instrument division, spun off
decimation: asciilifeform - but to your point about bio stuff - that's probably why agilent is keeping the agilent name for the bio side of the new company
decimation: yeah this is one of those portable deals. You can give agilent at least 2-3x that for a high quality lab grade spectrum analyzer
asciilifeform: a miserable little spectrophotometer (every bio lab on the planet) runs about 50k.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this looks like a field instrument.
asciilifeform: and i should add that 18k usd is cheap for a laboratory instrument.
asciilifeform: decimation: i bet the thing still uses staggered (out of phase) multiple ADC, though
indiancandy1: a romanian one and all there food is garlicy when u sweat does it smell like garlic?
asciilifeform: decimation: my chicom dirtscope has one built in. but, have to understand limits of the instrument.
decimation: if you want quality that's what you pay
mircea_popescu: something tells me that if it were, you';d bitch about machined silver
decimation: heh yeah that's what I was thinking.
asciilifeform: decimation: shield design, note, is quite like mine. (and everyone else's!) i'd love to have the machined aluminum cavity, though. but cost.
mircea_popescu: tightly packed handled mass produced electronics like these...
decimation: he does point out "well it will probably have to be recalibrated"
decimation: yeah, I can reasonably guaruntee that for 20 GHz equipment, it's not like it never happened (for this guy)
mircea_popescu: i tore down a trabant engine
asciilifeform: decimation: if you can reassemble the thing later, it's like it never happened.
mircea_popescu: smells that bad eh ?
mircea_popescu: decimation hence the paste comment
indiancandy1: do you not think you are?
decimation: the system is complex, it needs to separate the RF portion from the computer portion, and also conduct heat. I suspect compromises were made between the competing priorities
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal what's an asshole in the dark.
indiancandy1: i think your related to vladmire
decimation: 3e8 m/s / 20 GHz = 15 mm wavelength at 20 Ghz - that's why you see all the esoteric shielding
mircea_popescu: why don't they have insulant between the two modules is beyond me.
decimation: there are some interesting design choices (some he points out, some he doesn't). as ascii would say, figuring out the details is an excercise for the alert reader
decimation: so that's what he focuses on, the board construction
decimation: I think his past experience was as a pcb designer
decimation: heh yeah for him the computer is the uninteresting part, he cares about the rf parts hehe
mircea_popescu: what interests him are the fully machined aluminum blocks.
mircea_popescu: the smart comment was re "some processors or something but we don't care about that"
decimation: they are famous for making $20k test equipment that runs windows xp
decimation: heh that's a good point
mircea_popescu: how do i know it's the actual thing if he doesn';t sample anything with it first ?
mircea_popescu: wtf, not turned on ?
mircea_popescu: decimation lmao guy wants to play with spring
decimation: the us still makes very high quality stuff, you just have to pay golden toliet prices to get it
assbot: EEVblog #470 - Agilent N9344C 20GHz Spectrum Analyser Teardown - YouTube
decimation: asciilifeform: you can watch the loud australian guy teardown an $18k 20ghz spectrum analyzer made by agilent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QBFIfKlvHU
TheNewDeal: ill bet you on that
cazalla: it'll go to a shootout where messi misses and germany wins
TheNewDeal: if you can make it that far, it doesn't really matter
BingoBoingo: I hope for an Argentina Germany final where the only players to survive the jerkoff pregame festivities are Messi and Klose
mircea_popescu: the problem of mono teams.
TheNewDeal: he showed me a brief clip of a brazilian person in tears
mircea_popescu: i don't even think this happened before, in a wc match
mircea_popescu: they raped that team
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal no they had more but annulled.
TheNewDeal: not sure if he didn't know the english word for siete
BingoBoingo: Anytime the Decimal odds on Serena Williams opponent pays under 10, Serena doesn't win. You can turn 0.1 BTC into 1 BTC that way with decent regularity.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal lmao i can see tha
TheNewDeal: I was freaking out today. Just bet against the top scorer last night, then some mexican dude whips out his phone today at work and was telling me germany had 9 goals
mircea_popescu: that'd have been a sad typo
mircea_popescu: hard to not watch difficulty.
indiancandy1: i prefer greeks though
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal i didn't actually watch the tennis chick either
kakobrekla: enough to win, dude.
TheNewDeal: enough to bet?
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal the fuck do i care.
cazalla: indiancandy1: do you like Germans? my oma met the fuhrer
TheNewDeal: haha you want to bet but aren't interested in watching the game?
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal sure. gotta support the team
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And you know that because people are doing their jobs atm
mircea_popescu: isn't argentina tomorrow ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no actually they're not screaming atm
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 i watched the last 5 minutes of germany-brazil by accident
indiancandy1: are you watching the argentina game?
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 who's to say i'm not ?