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mircea_popescu: as an aside, mpex update : hardware changed and
tested, os installed and failed. os reinstalled and failed. hardware retested and failed (!!!). hardware rechanged.
tested, passed,
tested, passed, os resintalled,
tested.
decimation: well, it's
true
that sovereignty is binary, either you rule or you don't
decimation: actually I
think
the idea mix of government is weak global regulation below strong local soverignty
mircea_popescu: but mind
that
the eu was quite successful while it limited itself
to imposing
things like
the euro1-2-3-4 car emission standards.
mircea_popescu: well because it's
trying
to solve problems
that it has no business being involved in.
decimation: we already have global government, it seems
to me. my objection
to it is its horrible cost/benefit ratio -
the problem mostly being
the ungovernable masses
mircea_popescu: justusranvier lmao awww, and i didn't even get
to sell any d.cbse
mircea_popescu: so you know... for all
the conservative displeasure with
the global government...
decimation: yeah I don't see any way out of
the problem other
than having a king/judge make subjective decisions backed up with
the
threat of violence
mircea_popescu: decimation moreover,
the market is provedly awful at allocating silence. london was nothing but a gray mist for most of modernity.
decimation: elements of polity or nationhood, what noble new phasis of human arrangement, or social device worthy of Prometheus or of Epimetheus, yet comes
to light in America? "
decimation: yeah I
think Carlyle would agree with you: "Deduct what
they carried with
them from England ready-made, --
their common English Language and
that same Constitution, or rather elixir of constitutions,
their inveterate and now, as it were inborn, reverence for
the Constable's Staff;
two quite immense attainments which England had
to spend much blood, and valiant sweat of brow and brain, for centuries long in achieving; -- and what new
mircea_popescu: well... what if
their parents didn't ? what if it's
the united states of chimpanzees ?
mircea_popescu: "i don't have
to beat
them personaly but merely remind
them of how
their parents beat
them"
mircea_popescu: decimation
that "self restraint" is your circular way of begging violence
mircea_popescu: lemon band is playing awfully badly, so you pay
them 20 mn
to stfu
decimation: it seems
to me
that
the general self-restraint of
the population is important here
mircea_popescu: mike_c suppose you're in a restaurant with a chick you're
trying
to impress.
mike_c: you could pay
them. you want silence,
they want money.
mircea_popescu: there's no way
to resolve
the silence dispute without recourse
to violence.
decimation: I guess
this is where you go
to
the King and plead your case
mircea_popescu: negotiation is, "i'll give you
this silver for
that pear"
decimation: lol well
there's a certain level of
tolerance required
to have civilization
mircea_popescu: and as i
tell my neighbours
that complain about my music, "either get lost or i'm going
to kill you"
mircea_popescu: as i generally
tell my neighbours
that listed
to
the music
too loud, "either
turn it off or i'm going
to kill you".
decimation: in
the us you don't have property owners or rationality
decimation: but in
the us, remote
third parties suddenly have standing
to
tell you how
to run your business
mircea_popescu: decimation
there's no practical way
to evaluate blighted skies. and
the chinese don't wan
to pay mongolia or w/e
mircea_popescu: they may mean well and act honorably, but
they're fucking peas in
the field. no way
to know enough
to form a meaningful opinion.
decimation: a much more rational system would be
this: your neighbor opens coal plant, pays you damages for blighting your skies, business is
taken care of
mircea_popescu: this has been known since forever as
the noble lie. ie, most people have no fucking business giving
their opinion in
the forum.
mircea_popescu: n3 is a small consumer with a large gas plant.
they picket it and it's closed. large industry down
the road needs power so even further coal plant is brough back online.
decimation: which is also
the government's fault, because
the land-use regulation in
the US has effectively short-circuited
the nuisance
tort process
mircea_popescu: neighbourhood 1 gets
together
to "do something for environment", blows up all
the leaves with leafblowers. N2 pledges
to stop eating beef so as
to help reduce cowfart methane production.
the importers normaly supplying
them suffer a shock, a bunch of meat is discarded.
decimation: that's
true, in
the end it's entitled nimbys who
think
they can
tell others what
to do on
their own land
decimation: the same environmentalists would gladly shut down a gas plant "because environment" and
thus force
the old coal plant
to burn
decimation: if
there is enough refinery capacity
to make it
decimation: yeah, it's probably
the shit
that comes out
the bottom of
the refinery stack
decimation: The most common residual fuels in
the shipping industry are RMG and RMK.[4] ,,, Ships with more advanced engines can process heavier, more viscous, and
thus cheaper, fuel.
assbot: Fuel oil - Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia
decimation: I suspect if you
tried
to build a new refinery
to burn it more cleanly
they would protest
that
too
TheNewDeal: not sure, but it
tastes
to light and sweet
assbot: NECN Board calls for moratorium on oil
trains - Northeast Coalition of Neighborhoods
decimation: it seems
to me
that if oil is so cheap, it should be burned for power, but I suspect USG has banned
that
too (to do it cheaply)
mircea_popescu: “The reason we can export so much is demand in
the U.S. is weak,” Cohan said. Since 2005,
the U.S. has lost nearly 2 million barrels a day of
total product consumption, he said.
decimation: and
the "people"
think
they have
the luxury
to protest oil moving
through
their
town
assbot: U.S. Was Net Oil-Product Exporter for First
Time Since 1949 - Bloomberg
assbot: Crude oil
train protests planned in Sacramento, Davis - Our Region -
The Sacramento Bee
decimation: it will
take years
to build
the pipelines
to
the areas
that need
them, and it will be even more years of political stalemate preventing
the investment
decimation: yeah, but
the us hasn't been close
to an oil exporter for
that period
decimation: I wonder if
this has
to do with
the oil distribution infrastructure in
the us
TheNewDeal: isn't
there a relatively large premium of brent vs wti lately/
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal nah. and besides, it's been going crazy with respect
to both brent and
the middle east sorts.
TheNewDeal: could west
texas intermediate be a derivative of shale oil?
mthreat: well
there's good chaos and bad chaos
mircea_popescu: buncha people out singing. not like
they burned a car or anything.
mircea_popescu: my flash is not good enough, but anyway. mebbe we mean different
things by chaos.
decimation: I'm sure
that
they used
the power of science
to err by 96%
assbot: U.S. officials cut estimate of recoverable Monterey Shale oil by 96% - Los Angeles
Times
benkay: and on
the converse, has blockchain.info lost its?
benkay: hey is blockr -assets blessed
these days?
benkay: it's
the 2014 version of above
TheNewDeal: try refreshing is better
than "Have you
tried
turning it on an off again?"
benkay: all
this nasty state buried in
the browser
benkay: worst part about js app development is
the "try refreshing?" debugging method.
benkay: TheNewDeal: anything interesting in
the console?
mircea_popescu: btw,
the song of
the street here is " Brasil, decime qué se siente,
tener en casa
tu papa"
TheNewDeal: I have had
trouble seeing bitcoincharts charts in chrome
though, so might be my pc
TheNewDeal: seems like kaspersky isn't doing anything
to restrict web
TheNewDeal: I am using chrome, JS hasn't been
turned off
benkay: the one who survived by ratting out
the competition for 20 years.
benkay: mircea_popescu: you are
the best candidate for
the Frank Costello of bitcoin.
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benkay: it's just a ruse
to convince us
that mp isn't an nsa plant