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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what intel overestimated was the ability of microshit to shoehorn their turd into exotic cpu. turned out to be nil. (nt on alpha - never entirely worked. etc)
mircea_popescu: they woefully misjudged their market position, too.
mircea_popescu: i think you're right
asciilifeform suspects that itanic was a 'lock-in play' - intel hoped that no one else could write a decent compiler for the chip. but what ended up happening was - for ages, gcc was the only working itanic toolchain...
mircea_popescu: well honestly, the wood airplane may well ahve becvome a big deal.
asciilifeform failed to get excited
mircea_popescu: the 90s way to say "revolutionary and innovative"
mircea_popescu: well, it was different... not to mention "new and exciting"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it can - and was - be made to work, just that it was never clear to anyone wtf the point is.
mircea_popescu: logically, the compiler is in the best position to do this, because it can directly poll the bus.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the famous 'itanic' used an approach called 'vliw' - 'very long instruction word' - where the compiler was expected to fill up the pipeline manually, avoiding 'hazards' (instructions fighting over a resource, e.g. register or memory)
mircea_popescu: ah, if only they had heard of urbit.
mircea_popescu: "The Itanium approach...was supposed to be so terrific—until it turned out that the wished-for compilers were basically impossible to write."
mircea_popescu: cazalla: not sure wife would be here when i get back though :P << lol what, she got a nice big black fellow all lined up ?
mircea_popescu: kyuupichan: 3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation << but you know seattle/the us is not really the center of mining.
mircea_popescu: dub hm, what do you hate about it ? that there's not really any "you lose 100%" ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell punkman: mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame << actually, it'd be prolly good to have a YOU: summary on either side of GoW as long as the person is actually logged in. in case they bought multiple bids etc.
mircea_popescu: ahh look at the short logs.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user hanbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 11 via 11 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=hanbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=hanbot | Rated since: Wed Dec 11 14:42:14 2013
asciilifeform: all but the cheapest embedded cpu
asciilifeform: so it's a reasonable presumption. no, i don't have the manual for the new one.
asciilifeform: artifexd: well, the classic 'elbrus' was pipelined.
artifexd: Are you speculating that it is a pipeline measurement or are you certain?
artifexd: If that is a pipeline, wouldn't that be too long to be performant? I mean, one missed branch prediction and you have to flush the whole thing.
asciilifeform: if they can pull both this *and* decent x86 emulation << russian, chinese, martian CPUs will be interesting when - and not before - they swear off x86 emulation.
artifexd: It isn't interesting to talk about, but advertisers love it and it is a lot of fun (and frustration) to work on.
asciilifeform: artifexd: perform on each core to 25 operations in a single clock cycle << you can make a 'pipeline' as long as you like. it ends up mostly full of NOPs.
artifexd: One of my projects is a custom streaming audio server. High performance, customized streams for each client, transcodes one input to multiple output formats, blah, blah, blah.
artifexd: If you listen to the world cup on the internet, odds are that it is flowing through my software.
hanbot: so what do you do with the wc?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69116640 BTC to 11`660 shares, 14504 satoshi per share
artifexd: Makin' stuff. Then makin' it faster.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 19.59579552 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1704 satoshi per share
hanbot: artifexd, actually, i've been trying to write.
hanbot: ;;later tell mike_c hey "There is an infinitesimal chance none of the numbers will be < 1,000,000. In this case the last group (bits 12 - 31) are used to find the location as follows:" would it not be better to just re-hash the hash and try again? and if it fails again, hash it again. infinitesimal is infinitesimal, but why even bother. ☟︎
artifexd: What are you up to now days?
artifexd: gribble lost me so I had to reauth
hanbot: a ty
jurov: will be interesting to see if they can pull both this *and* decent x86 emulation
jurov: dunno if this isn't itanium-like pipe dream
artifexd: "ability to perform on each core to 25 operations in a single clock cycle, which provides high performance at moderate clock frequency" <- wow
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.5502 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.06307729 BTC. Current weight: 97,814.
kyuupichan: Seems they don't have my hotel :(
kyuupichan: BigBitz: No never heard of it. I used btctrip.com for flights for 2nd time without issue (bad experience with cheapair, though that seems unusual) and expedia for hotels.
cazalla: going through all the permutations though, sounds like this was obvious and prob better to use cc
kyuupichan: All I wanted to do was change a date. booking.com is far superior to expedia.com for that; you, uh, just change the date.
kyuupichan: Coordinating them and their payment processor (coinbase) was a PITA, particularly as I don't live in US so it was international phone calls. I'm not a fan of coinbase but to be honest they seemed to fix it, and they were the most helpful.
cazalla: predictable though
kyuupichan: Well they'd only just started taking BTC. Most of their sales reps had (still have) no clue. When asking about the refund, they said it'll be on credit card despite my having said half a dozen times I'd not used CC and paid with bitcoin. Clearly clueless.
cazalla: so what made cancellation a nightmare? they take btc but don't want to pay it back? fiat only refund?
kyuupichan: cazalla: Sure. Preference depends on circumstances. I'm overweight BTC; happy to drop a few now and then.
cazalla: meh i'd still use credit card if i was doing that
kyuupichan: I reckon I must be high on the Expedia list of bitcoin dudes using their service more than expected
cazalla: not sure wife would be here when i get back though :P
cazalla: i wanna piss off to angeles
cazalla: holiday to where?
kyuupichan: Small fraction of BTC, that is
kyuupichan: He'd budgeted +10% difficulty each period for rest of 2014; seems about right to me
kyuupichan: 3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation
atcbot: [ATC Mined] Current: 20193280 Total ATC (to be mined): 268435456 % Mined of Total: 7.52
dub: more like ketamine, chances are it will put you to sleep and only people with personality issues go back for more
punkman: ;;later tell mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame
dub: i realise that
mircea_popescu: this is the ultimate "bitcoin investor" cocaine tbh
punkman: dub, it's not about backing the winning team, you just have to buy cheaper than all the other mooks
mircea_popescu: lol so i peeled .33 off this satoshi dice clone thing
dub: by backing the winning team. clearly
mircea_popescu: how the hell can you lose
dub: anyway, to sound like a sore loser, its a stupid game
dub: yeah I see it on the front page but nobody would land there surely?
mircea_popescu: it's like a large centrral panel with the current game and two smaller to the left, prev and next game
mircea_popescu: on the where ?
dub: try putting it on the gow page where one would go looking for it
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
mircea_popescu: the link is there
dub: death beat life though right?
dub: fwiw having a link ot the previous game might be nice
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
mircea_popescu: well there's no "win" per se.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/990/ Odds: 42(Y):58(N) by coin, 42(Y):58(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.24105324 BTC. Current weight: 93,892.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c hey, https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ << after 1 year, everyone's on -
[]bot: Bet created: "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/
mircea_popescu: yeah, i see that.
mircea_popescu: you mean the plan i just discussed in a public chan ?
decimation: some part of the usg has to be able to operate in secrecy effectively to perform this laudering plan right?
decimation: eh, that supposes that the usg is secretly competent, which you just implied was not the case above
benkay: well i've worked through these provisioners from top to bottom, and now it's time to test them all against some freshness
decimation: I guess they have only claimed to have sold 30k of the 144k
decimation: are you saying the auction never took place?
decimation: what does the fact that the US auctioned off the DPR horde of btc rather than put it in the fed reveal about usg?
mircea_popescu: the us is not in any top.
mircea_popescu: germany is maybe in the top 10. russia is of course in the top 5, way up there with romania and israel.
decimation: re: german spies << either the germans are really good or the CIA sucks at spying, apparently
mircea_popescu: 2 hours later i am... where's that cat gif
mircea_popescu: i was like "why do i never receive altcoin summaries&updates ???" "because they are all exceedingly stupid" "no wai." "eta 2 hours"
decimation: when you boil that down, the american "middle class" is really at most maybe 10% of the population, so maybe ~20 million adults
benkay: yeah i now recall thinking to myself "myup. stop wasting time, kid."
mircea_popescu: jesus this darkcoin thing is more stupid than i had originally thought.
decimation: or easily could be ex-pats, if the mood struck
mircea_popescu: of the remainder 20%, about 10% are homeless, in prison or in mental institutions