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danielpbarron: https://youtu.be/f-6UwDP23s4?t=1m46s
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron the (actually sound) argument is that they won't be 20 forever, we're eating up a bubble of externalised cost.
danielpbarron: i know "time isn't really money" but however long it takes to upgrade one of these things is probably enough time to earn more than 20 USD working at McDonalds
nubbins`: so if anyone particularly feels like they don't want their out of date unit to be so
mircea_popescu: "this thing breaks iof there's a bug found in gpg. or if we didn't implement signature checking correctly. or or or or"
mircea_popescu: "dude that zergling's broken" "mmkay" "aren't you going to repair it ?" "wut ?! *click* *click* *click* *click* *click*"
mircea_popescu: (im kinda nonplussed that nobody even seems to realise seed list is only interesting on boot and these aren't intended to ever reboot, really.)
trinque: bitcoin doesn't work
trinque: if you can't trust a txn that's very old, uh
ascii_field: precisely why i didn't say 'network update'
ascii_field: at any rate, -we won't know- that it's pointing to usg boxes emulating our nodes
mircea_popescu: and this won't be all over the internets, either.
ascii_field: so we're thirdworld. or we wouldn't be playing junkyard wars.
mircea_popescu: fuck the third world with a spiked club. if it wasn't made by retards it wouldn't be third.
mircea_popescu: no, itdoesn't give us a license to be retarded.
ascii_field: this still doesn't give us a license to be retarded when making these
ascii_field: and in case anyone needs to be reminded, please don't use downloaded binaries for anything serious
mircea_popescu: "i wonder why that doesn't work, the allignm,ent was perfect!"
nubbins`: ascii_field oh wait this is just a blob, isn't it?
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 17:39:09; ascii_field: i utterly understand the desire to 'tivoize' these things so they don't get turned into phoundation nodes by lamers. but this can be done without idiot waste.
ascii_field: don't use browser
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 17:37:53; ascii_field: ben_vulpes: no, nodes don't get updated << so, let's go into this in detail. they ship with all the seed ips they will ever have? for the record i proclaim this to be retarded. -keys- are the constants of our world, not ip addrs
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i don't get it. who would "buy" such a thing ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "Copy machine money" : this is a sad necessity. if it weren't present, muppets WOULD "try it", and discover "it works", and srsly financial collapse. for real.
mircea_popescu: trinque oddly that thing doesn't load any content for me. either im not drunk enough or you broke it.
trinque: Ideapod has given me courage to share my insights with its delightful community and made me realise that the problem wasn't my personal content, but my personal context. "
trinque: "I've always felt as if my brain was always wired for a short circuit or at least in a way that wasn't too appealing for anyone else but me.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the ugly but aging sex in the city aspirationalist that "found satoshi's identity". then ascii_field thought she was rich then she wasn't.
mircea_popescu: and it his isn't poverty, i guess i'm just privileged.
thestringpuller: ascii_field: so russian d00d works on implmentations team. he was in the break room and we go up to him to ask him random question about rapper or something, and he's like "I don't have time for this shit. Are you paying me to answer this question?"
mircea_popescu: (for poor people reading : "donating to a charity" = tax deduction = you didn't actually spend anything. because say my company has made 1mn revenue this year, and my tax accountant is bs so i have to pay like 120k in tax. if i donate 100k to a charity and pay 30k ish im all done. so therefore - whether i lose this bet or not decides whether i write a check to x or to y, not whether i write the check at all.
nubbins`: although i suppose i'm sort of being an asshole by saying $28usd isn't reasonable
nubbins`: still haven't found a reasonable purple-logo unit source for canada
ascii_field: the movability is like nukes, shouldn't ever have to be -used- - with any regularity
ascii_field: try to see, i don't suggest hosting therealbitcoin mega-seeds on dynamic ip consumer boxes
nubbins`: i don't know
ascii_field: but simply 'we can move these at zero cost to us and ours if we want to, so don't bother shooting at them'
ascii_field: but there is a reasonably sane solution that doesn't involve secrecy
ascii_field: nubbins`: bitcoin doesn't run on secret ips
jurov: !t m f.mpif
ascii_field: you can't ddos an rsa key
ascii_field: nubbins`: don't need to (and same problems apply to it)
ascii_field: i don't even have ipv6 enabled on my lan, much less outgoing.
ben_vulpes: and shouldn't this discussion be looking at ipv6 as well?
ascii_field: nubbins`: i don't
nubbins`: just can't
nubbins`: you can't have visible to users but invisible to usg
nubbins`: you can't locate someone with a key
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: don't hurry, think.
ascii_field: except they won't be dead, they'll be hosting phoundation syblics
ascii_field: (who don't appear to be logged in at present, but, still)
ascii_field: can't rely on anything on the net staying put
ascii_field: i utterly understand the desire to 'tivoize' these things so they don't get turned into phoundation nodes by lamers. but this can be done without idiot waste.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: no, nodes don't get updated << so, let's go into this in detail. they ship with all the seed ips they will ever have? for the record i proclaim this to be retarded. -keys- are the constants of our world, not ip addrs
nubbins`: might be easier than figuring out why the docs won't install
nubbins`: if you're only doing the first step, ourlibs won't be fully populated
danielpbarron: so i think it isn't finishing
mircea_popescu: they don't run
nubbins`: while docs generally aren't crucial, i wonder if that stops some later process from happening
nubbins`: <+danielpbarron> this is a different one than the one that didn't have the db_cxx.h <<< ah
danielpbarron: this is a different one than the one that didn't have the db_cxx.h
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron don't worry, you also put 64 bit on the 32 bit arm.
nubbins`: fwiw if you've got 3gb ram i guess it doesn't really matter
danielpbarron: so i'm the dummy that didn't realize he had a 64 bit cpu and put 32 bit OS on it
danielpbarron: i guess that means db isn't finishing
nubbins`: okay, so that's why that step can't find it :D
PeterL: aren't pickles just cucumbers soaked in vinegar?
mircea_popescu: at any rate : most actual foodstuffs, such as pickles, cheeses, cured and aged meats etc aren't even flora-enumerated, in the sense that we don't even really know what all grows on them
mircea_popescu: PeterL no, you can't actually, because a glass is not enough sample.
mircea_popescu: PeterL they can't usefully say what they are, even.
mircea_popescu: PeterL didn't we have the discussion with the complexity of aminoacids ?
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only thing chemistry describes about food is that it has no hope in hell of describing it, and here's some alternatives that 90% of people can't distinguish
mircea_popescu: <jurov> guess they hope to sell mining equipment with the key baked in << wouldn't this necessarily leak it ?
nubbins`: i had to modify makefile for osx because all the path stuff wasn't resolving, your gentoo might have similar prob
danielpbarron: i didn't need it last time
danielpbarron: i don't think so
danielpbarron: i haven't caught up on the logs yet, maybe these issues were covered already
cazalla: prob for the best i don't bottle my own, i'd be in perpetual state of drunkedness
mircea_popescu: so when it's firing time... buncha very drunk dudes that swear they didn't drink a drop
mircea_popescu: that's kinda the thing, if it's not a big deal it just... isn't a big deal.
BingoBoingo: * mircea_popescu had a drink at his junior high prom. which was held in a bar. because romanians didn't actually give a shit. << Wait Wut, you only had one drink at prom? Junior year I was trying to keep pace with Anya.
mircea_popescu: the other kids didn't, because kids.
mircea_popescu had a drink at his junior high prom. which was held in a bar. because romanians didn't actually give a shit.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, ya know i use to get carded when i was 16, but i was smart enough to know the guy working at the bottle shop probably couldn't subtract my age from the current year, so he would glance at my provisional drivers licence and ring up my drinks no probs
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i don't even know what GRE is so, no
BingoBoingo: I just think it is too early to surrender to the chicoms. Even though I could prolly bang out a qntra.chicom in 45 minutes if I wasn't so pickled atm.
mircea_popescu: fun fact : most large felines don't know how to shit as infants, so the mother licks their asshole to stimulate bowel movements.
cazalla: but they poop from there, so i don't care, not going near butthole either way
mircea_popescu: cazalla he just doesn't want hair in the asshole is all.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I am totally fine with the En language space surrendering except as a pidgin used in trade. If you let a single slant language into the acceptable trading space though. I sense trouble. Don't know of, but anticipate
cazalla: <BingoBoingo> I could see placing spanish well before portugese because fuck brazil if they aren't waxing <<< so muff is ok ya know
mircea_popescu: but i don't think we can go "all bitcoin happens in english fuck you"
BingoBoingo: I could see placing spanish well before portugese because fuck brazil if they aren't waxing
cazalla: i really don't see the issue with matching it 1:1 on the basis translation is useful, es not as much as cn but still
mircea_popescu: the first time today i sat here and couldn't figure out a problem was when i tried to parse davout's proposal. brain just can't cope.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what's +10%vote mean ? << You and cazalla are 20% a piece I throw my 10% behind translations, because we aren't fucking Cointelegrah with seperate US and UK press releases
BingoBoingo: It isn't like I plan to battle syphillis anytime soon again
BingoBoingo: What isn't?
mircea_popescu: wasn't in there i dun think ?
brendafdez: <brendafdez> I always take a long time before I do anything, so as to be sure that I won't fail to disappoint everyone involved.