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mircea_popescu: nobody really wants them that's sane.
mircea_popescu: decimation yes. rich fools are dangerous in the manner of the weak tower discussed earlier.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> are you saying rich fools are unwelcome ? << Rich fools are a resource to harvest like any other until the simply become fools
mircea_popescu: decimation try a mental experiment. consider very insular, outsider-hating middle america community. consider you show up there and lavish new york mannerisms and expectations upon them. lynch mob is unsurprising. consider oppositely you show up there and display an intimate knowledge of the various blood feuds underpinning their social system. suddenly everyone wants you over for sunday dinner.
BingoBoingo: No US town wants a factory to be useful, they want it because it employees consumers
asciilifeform: i can picture a scenario where random bozos are invited in, but with the understanding of... biodiesel, if they don't make themselves otherwise useful
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nobody wants those. this is surprising to nobody outside of us folk i would think. << Well considering that most US local and state level economic development projects consist of efforts to attract and create consumers... Yeah
mircea_popescu: nobody wants those. this is surprising to nobody outside of us folk i would think.
mircea_popescu: decimation there's exactly two ways : one's wealth and the ability to select and hire local helpers. the other's deep knowledge and an ability to select and persuade local patrons.
BingoBoingo: I need to find someone who can introduce me to one of those Chinese agencies which rents out designated white people
asciilifeform last informed on the subject many years ago
mircea_popescu: i guess some foreigners conflate the two.
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, considered that scenario as well, nice :)
mircea_popescu: it is routine to refuse to deal with idiots tho
asciilifeform: some foreigners (usa) find this very surprising
asciilifeform: incidentally, in jp it is not only legal but routine to refuse real estate deal, rentals, work, etc. to white devil.
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight you're talking to the only romanian billionaire. i don't jobs.
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, figured, that's why the quotes; job there?
asciilifeform: if i recall, you need to be very popular with the locals, collect signatures, demonstrate cash flow, etc.
mircea_popescu: i'd say it's much easier to get japanese citizenship than bitcoin citizenship
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not that big.
asciilifeform: guy who moved to japan and got citizenship << contrary to popular belief, this is not impossible - but about same level of difficulty as getting tenured professorship at a big uni
mircea_popescu: there's this cracked.com v2.0 set of websites, which pretty much live off internet-hyperbole.
mircea_popescu: the situation in the field has justabout 0 to do with the zerohedge-esque nonsense therein discussed.
decimation: which might be the case
mircea_popescu: i know a guy who moved to japan and got citizenship, i know a guy who married a very pretty japanese rosebud and settled in yurp
decimation: I think most of them would rather die then let that happen
asciilifeform: japan/migrants << we'll know jp is done as a going concern when they give up and let the devils in
mircea_popescu: you should be able to reconstruct state on your own from the sea so to speak
mircea_popescu: like all the people falling on a nail gun from the 9th floor
mircea_popescu: decimation this is a valid point. if i hadn't had trilema and all i did was finance i'd probably hang myself
asciilifeform: why would a node ever reply >> if you're fetching blockchain state, vs. pushing tx
decimation: http://www.xenosystems.net/iq-shredders/#more-3088 "How many bright Indians and bright Chinese are there, Harry? Surely they are not infinite. And what will they do in Singapore? Well, engage in the finance and marketing rat-race and depress their fertility to 0.78, wasting valuable genes just so your property prices don?t go down. Singapore is an IQ shredder."
decimation: along the same vein
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well, the only scenario where he can't is where a node only replies to 'friend', otherwise ignores.
mircea_popescu: ful to the bezzlers, which means IT DOESNT EXIST O NOES
mircea_popescu: “To have a nation, you must have people and you must have young people to be able to drive the economy and young people buy the products — all these gadgets and fine dining — and if you don’t have that, and you refuse migrants as the Japanese do, you will just dissolve into nothingness! I think before that comes, they may change (their) policy.” << a country which doesn't have enough gullible fools is not use
asciilifeform: well ostensibly purpose of stego is 'dr evil can't tell if x is a node'
assbot: Lee Kuan Yew drains your brains for short term gain | Bloody shovel
mircea_popescu: merely it's unacceptability to me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform merely the fact that i reject the message doesn't say nanything about its validity.
mircea_popescu: the core reason for it is that the species must perpetuate. this hinges on women not really giving a fuck.
asciilifeform: what won't work is - any node out of the box can talk to any other.
mircea_popescu: also, people not giving a fuck is a major technical proble,
asciilifeform: that's the basic 'wot' idea, yes.
mircea_popescu: if presented with traffic from alleged key, i expect it to be signed by keys i already accepted.
asciilifeform: how does key signing play into this ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gpg has built in key signing for this reason.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`> just doing up the books for july, seems we have a mystery cash surplus of $666 << you have been clearly blessed. now if the lady's late...
decimation: why should some freshman care about taxpayer assets?
decimation: well, in that case the primary risk is the university's computer system
asciilifeform: when it turns into 'lose password and die' - some people will begin to give a fuck.
asciilifeform: people tend to use weak passwords << this - and the famous experiment where a psychologist purchased office planktons' passwords with chocolate - is a fundamental result of people not giving a fuck. not a technical problem. ☟︎
nubbins`: just doing up the books for july, seems we have a mystery cash surplus of $666
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: otherwise trivial mitm.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: traffic should resemble people exchanging gpg messages maybe << this only works if two nodes have some 'wot' relationship.
DreadKnight: just saying that a lot of non-tech / older people tend to use weak passwords
DreadKnight: BingoBoingo, I didn't said their passwords
BingoBoingo: DreadKnight: Well, why are you giving your parents passwords to infrastructure?
mircea_popescu: "but parents don't want to share the ideology xD" <=> "i'm happy with it but i can't get my parents to use it themselves" ?
DreadKnight: seen a chart with most popular passwords... 123456 and password being top entries xD
DreadKnight: I meant that they're not keen on complex / strong passwords
DreadKnight: BingoBoingo, 27, but since I'm into tech, parents learned a bit from me, both are using linux for years now
BingoBoingo: <DreadKnight> but parents don't want to share the ideology xD << Wait, how old are you?
DreadKnight: nothing sucks more than typing a strong password on a touch screen device.
DreadKnight: but parents don't want to share the ideology xD
DreadKnight: got my own algorithm for strong passwords that are unique and that I can actually remember and type for a while now
DreadKnight: true, but it would have been nice if wp had a timer to avoid that kind of abuse, mircea_popescu
assbot: Romanian Dicelist pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: well then. bruteforced shit pws aren't a hack.
DreadKnight: well, didn't knew much about security back then, wasn't protecting the log-in page too well against common stuff
mircea_popescu: or that.
DreadKnight: made my own little blog system, no users accounts or databases, using files instead, will put it to good use soon, mircea_popescu
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, used to, but got popular faster then I expected and hacked a few times without backup; might get back into writing soon, without using wordpress this time
decimation: "Consumer price indexes show negligible price changes in non-normalized accounting, not only because they are fudged and rigged, but because prices are set by dollars competing for goods. Because American spenders have fewer and fewer normalized dollars to spend every year, normalized consumer prices are also dropping. " - Mr. moldbug
decimation: "brand over quality" is also an artifact of the dillution of fiat ownership
DreadKnight: started watching that Welcome to the Dollhouse movie someone recommended around xD
BingoBoingo: My favorite part of Eve online is that anyone not explicitly an ally is a potential adversary.
DreadKnight: no, just that some people around are not into mobas and feel like we're boring or offtopic, I respect not playing moba
cazalla: no, not caring to debate at this hour = ragequit
DreadKnight: cazalla, is that your solution? :))
danielpbarron: yeah; I don't play that often anymore
DreadKnight: anyway, don't really care to debate mobas at this hour
DreadKnight: it's fun as long as you got team or don't take it seriously / not play too often
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, I'm not the problem, the game sets me up with weirdos most of the time and it's bad for my health; I don't always have semi decent team mates online to play with
thestringpuller: have we really gone from talking about world news to LoL in all of 20 minutes?
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight you're prolly not gonna be happy or even willing to hear this, but it sounds like the problem is you.
DreadKnight: forgot to mention noob team mates getting shadow blade in dota2 while there's already an invis carry in the team; or picking multiple invisible heroes *sigh* ☟︎
DreadKnight: it's rare that I win a game because of another team mate; I usually get really annoyed and tell people what are doing wrong, but not many listen
cazalla: you're gonna lose games, even the top players only have 2:1 win/loss ratios
danielpbarron: DreadKnight, i used to play all-stars; now i play dota2
DreadKnight: cazalla, lost a lot of games in LoL while beating the whole enemy team by myself; all mobas basically have the same issues, but LoL has a few more on top of that
cazalla: DreadKnight, it doesn't require purchase of champs at all unless you're adhd and won't stick to one role
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DreadKnight: cazalla, it has less things to deal with, but yeah; I hate the account system, region limitation, runes and summoner spells needing levels, LoL requires purchase of champions, basically limits you to constantly play the same 2-3 champs most of the time
cazalla: so you message the good ones, start playing together, build synergy, you won't start with it from game 1
dignork: pigeons: hard to compare really, trash vs. garbage :)
cazalla: DreadKnight, it does have the same idiots who kill steal, play wrong lane, afk etc etc
mircea_popescu: decimation the funny thing about the incident is that everyone happily ignored the "your business part" and took it as gospel. "the importance of brand over quality"
pigeons: dignork: yes dogeparty is just counterparty on doge, but like i said, much more useful than ethereum