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asciilifeform: arguably the only place where 'proper' spanish is cervantes. errybody else some variant of real-life
BingoBoingo: Bad spanish comes in two flavors: Intelligible and Unitelligable. The Uruguayos have all sorts of sayings that aren't translatable to proper spanish, which they use for ingroup signallying. This means bad spanish intentionally used against the Uruguayos and Uruguayas needs to be A/B tested.
asciilifeform: in ru prison tradition, was sorta opposite formula, when they lowered a d00d into pederasty, would give'im a gurl's name, but still address as 'he'
BingoBoingo: In this case though not gramatically correct, the gender mismatch is intentional for emphasis.
BingoBoingo: I also tell them I am a fan of Bolnasoro in Brazil. And to that I respond "No soy un puto rosa"
BingoBoingo: Honest clown beats treacherous mula
Mocky: now if trump had promised to build a wall around D.C., then may have voted lol
BingoBoingo: I explain Trump is a clow who tells you what he is going to do, but Clitler is a backstabbing liar who surprises you with her evil acts, just like Hussein Bahama
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nao i'm curious, how do they typically respond ☟︎
BingoBoingo: I tell all the Latinas who will listen that I voted Trump
Mocky: BingoBoingo, met up with a canadian teacher today who asked *me* if I voted for trump, i told her she was funny
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell bvt i left a comment on your www, should be in your queue
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> no dude, they have fambly there who love it. they would love too! << Ask them if their families voted for Trump or if they actually instead hate America
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> otherwise it gets stuck in customs i hear << BWAHAHAHAHAHA, Very Uruguay of them
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Q later tell trinque http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/VsgXk/?raw=true
asciilifeform: i can't picture how it could hurt, tho. having a working artifact in yer hand readily distinguishes you from the indian 'my CREATIVE BIZNISS IDEA!111' folx.
asciilifeform: what i also dun know, is how well this meshes with Mocky/mircea_popescu's mission in Mockystan, presumably Mocky was not sent specifically to sell FG or mircea_popescu would have issued one already. so lessee what mircea_popescu says 1st.
Mocky: yeah today was day 15/56 so 41 to go
Mocky: i'll hit some people up tonight and I'll be hanging with a few dozen westerners tomorrow night at the four seasons, i'll bring it up there too
asciilifeform: i.e. whether it is even possible to get Mocky a box prior to his expedition time running out
asciilifeform: what i dun presently know is, just how fascist are the customs in Mockystan
Mocky: yeah something physical in hand that already works probably would be good cred
asciilifeform: Mocky: in usa i found that i had to get a postbox simply to get a lease for office that has own postbox, 'catch-22', but possib. other places moar sane
Mocky: and it has god dammed flashing lights too, no?
Mocky: you need a physical office space to be inspected to get the trade license and open company, so external not needed for that
asciilifeform: my logic : seems like Mocky is in one of those orcistans where the heathens luvv shiny things.
asciilifeform: it is my understanding that you'll need a postbox to open company, pretty much anywhere, regardless ☟︎
asciilifeform: when mircea_popescu wakes up, we'll see what he says re taking one of asciilifeform's seekrit spares and sending Mocky sample.
Mocky: I think I can open an account with some specific company locally and have receive dhl shipments. it's how they get stuff from amazon
asciilifeform: Mocky: are you able to receive mail ?
Mocky: they have money here and there are a lot things that are notdumb. especially when compared to africa
asciilifeform: might be useful item to show the heathens.
asciilifeform: lol where on planet3 does one find that mythical place, that hasmoney + notdumb
Mocky: also i was surprised to hear nigerians talking about how dumb nigerians are. how they have money in nigeria but they are to dumb to do anything useful with it
asciilifeform: it's how, not unrelatedly, asciilifeform ended up being marooned in usa, to begin with
asciilifeform: hey, nyc needs cabbies, and how to get'em without this 'family wrote, luvvvs it' procedure.
Mocky: no dude, they have fambly there who love it. they would love too! ☟︎
asciilifeform: a 500 $ tourist ticket would cure'em in a week, but who would buy it for rando orc.
Mocky: they are in qatar cuz they lost the lottery for who gets to go to usa
Mocky: unrelatedly, the miami in these filipinas and africans is off the fucking charts. they literally cannot sniff even a whiff of 'america aint that great' without spitting out 'america is the best, how could you even think it's not' ☟︎
asciilifeform: so revv-up time is never same for 2 units
asciilifeform: again for the l0gz/n00bz: this worx in practice, even if 2 boxes are started off same power supply, because of inescapable variation in the size of the power intake capacitors on each FG
asciilifeform: Mocky ( and for the l0gz ) -- if it aint obvious from the FG src : the thing spends first six ticks of the clock on powerup listening for signs of a working external clock on CLK pin; if it finds one (i.e. it's pulled high on board, and can only fall low if there's a 'master' connected) it becomes 'slave' until powerdown.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-24 15:46 asciilifeform: Mocky: come to think of it, the FG algo is applicable: the endpoint who speaks first, gets to be 'left', and the one who ack's first -- 'right'.
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-24#1865574 >> I quite like that actually ☝︎
asciilifeform: lessee what mircea_popescu thinks; this is a classic example of the type of knot i rely on him to cut.
asciilifeform: complicating proggy simply because there's 1 broken system somewhere, is not imho a winning proposition.
asciilifeform: bvt: on contemplation, i'm thinking possibly mips should simply get own v-branch, if we ever actually get hold of a mips. ☟︎
asciilifeform: the chance of deadlock is vanishingly small, esp. if you include a random delay during power-up, so that even if for some perverse reason 'a' and 'b' are started off the same power supply , they cannot deadlock.
asciilifeform: Mocky: come to think of it, the FG algo is applicable: the endpoint who speaks first, gets to be 'left', and the one who ack's first -- 'right'. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( the FG master/slave mechanism is only used in test benching )
asciilifeform: now, for an erryday piece of critical gear like otptron, i'd prefer an algo that ~provably~ terminates with correct (i.e. opposite polarity) pair, rather than 'oh it never ties in practice cuz no 2 crystals are exactly same' thing.
asciilifeform: sorta like the ancient algo where two boys hold a stick and break it
asciilifeform: Mocky: relatedly to 'who's top' algo , you may find the method illustrated in FG to be of interest, http://btcbase.org/patches/fg-genesis/tree/fg.v#L269 ( tldr : it's a straight 'foot race', and, for physical reasons, never ends in a 'tie' in practice )
mod6: *nod* I was a bit curious as to what type of slop they were trying to feed us.
asciilifeform: mod6: dun burn much time on it, i suspect there is nothing much of interest ( they break some of the protocol format, but not, as far as i can tell, to any interesting end )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-23 04:35 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-23#1865276 << don't waste your time with that, let it emerge naturally.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-23#1865302 << Roger this, Sir ☝︎
mod6: oops. somehow, copied the wrong thing
asciilifeform: mod6: lemme know if you see sumthing interesting that i missed. but seems to me that my earlier hypothesis holds, they were forkolade noades.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-23 01:51 mod6: Gotta catch up on l0gz and the rest. In particular, I'm just about nowhere on my task of creating answers to FAQs/Common Questions about the Foundation itself. I'll be working on that this week as a main priority - will post what I have for review/comments/corrections in #trilema by end of weekend.
mod6: asciilifeform: thx for posting your fuckwads pcap
asciilifeform: incidentally, https://www.adacore.com/gems/gem-59 apparently exists, tho i confess that i really dislike the idea of automatic converters for coad ☟︎
asciilifeform: bvt: you'll find that the gnat-specific packages are ~entirely liquishit -- check out what passes for 'gnat.sockets' for instance.
asciilifeform: when we get own sane os, can reimplement on ~that~ . but under unixlike, stuck with .c thing
asciilifeform: bvt: thing is, there's a non-negotiable must-have subset of posix, that ~cannot~ be implemented as pure ada. e.g. the udp structs liquishit. or , as we learned from bvt , open()
asciilifeform: Mocky: i can think of several algos for reliably picking 'left' and 'right' without any manual config ( recall, 'a' and 'b' have the cards slotted in, in opposite orders, call'em pad 'x' and 'y' , 'a' has x-y and b y-x -- both get same final xor, x xor y, is used as pad p )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-24 13:40 asciilifeform: briefly revisiting http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-23#1865463 >> nobody noticed the omission, but i oughta've pointed out that 'a' and 'b' gotta proceed from opposite ends of the pad, when sending, otherwise risk collision
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-24#1865522 >> plus then you either have to reverse the pad for one, or maintain a bit of state for top-eater vs bottom-eater ☝︎
bvt: i would much prefer going pure ada for a subset of posix. otherwise it's the same as relying on GNAT-specific packages -- it exports plenty of interesting stuff, not sure about networking though.
asciilifeform: the .c absolutely gotta be bug-free tho, or it sinks yer whole proggy ☟︎
asciilifeform: imho, segregating as much as possible of unix liquishit in a short .c, is cleaner than buncha Import() and hardcoded flag constants derived by guesswork
asciilifeform: my orig attempt at the udp thing tried to stick with purely pragma Import(...), but the result was definitely not portable, and so i rewrote it like-so
bvt: yes, i skimmed through it. all these sockaddr structures would be a bitch to do in ada. this is why i believe it would be useful to define, what subset we'd need.
asciilifeform: if it weren't for struct sockaddr_in..., struct in_addr..., i'd've simply imported the calls via pragma Import(C, ... )
asciilifeform: there is afaik no clean way of portably eating the ridiculous c structs without actually including a .c component.
asciilifeform: bvt: didja get a chance to read my udp lib ? the structs thing is the reason for http://btcbase.org/patches/udp_errata_asciilifeform/tree/udp/libudp/unix_udp.c .
bvt: well, for the library that i had in mind was strictly a database of flag name->int mappings, syscall numbers, maybe structure definitions.
bvt: but so far it's not clear what the subset should be, what to do about C structures (with problems like e.g. https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2017/01/25/1)
asciilifeform: but currently seems to me that it is impossible to write a portable proggy that uses open() without a .c that #include's the system's flags
asciilifeform: prolly at some point we'll unify these and others
asciilifeform: bvt: i have a variant of this in ffa, and yet another subset in mmap
bvt: i would try to make some sort of write-up about this. i wanted to suggest making a Ada library that exposes a subset of Linux system calls without C code, because i clearly needed it for the tempfile.
asciilifeform: my mmap thing was originally c-free (aside from a coupla imported, adatronically, calls) but apparently will have to include a .c simply for open(), to be portable.
asciilifeform: with culprit being the assumption of standard open() flags
asciilifeform: bvt: search turned up plenty of folx on the net wondering why their $proggy (all kinds) dun go on mips
bvt: and the amount of damage is ridiculous, even errno codes are different on mips.
bvt: asciilifeform: re open flags: this is exactly what i was pointing at. should have made the text bold, i guess. if all these flags numbers were the same, i would have used the syscall wrapper functions.
asciilifeform: my mmap thing, which i've mostly finished rework to prepare for genesis, demands open(), mmap cannot eat fopen()
asciilifeform: it is not possible to get away without open() in a nontrivial proggy on unixlike
asciilifeform: bvt : i'ma have to implement something to make calls to open() portable, cuz this is riotously ridiculous
asciilifeform: tldr : the shitcoin people are in fact pretending to compatibility with ordinary btc protocol; even going as far as using unchanged version strings, and backdated block timestamps ( of course trb rejects the liquishit in O(1) , but it is entertaining )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-23 21:12 asciilifeform: will post the pcap once it fattens up.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-23 21:41 bvt: a better write-up on the vpatch temporary file creation: http://bvt-trace.net/2018/10/vpatch-replacing-mktemp3
asciilifeform: bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-23#1865503 << this is very interesting ! i had nfi that open() had been sabotaged on mips-linux ( observe , in your table, errybody has same flags but for mips ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-23 18:01 asciilifeform: in an asynchronous scheme, you gotta explicitly divide the pad in halves, one for a->b and one for b->a, so as to exclude any possibility of either end making use of a block of pad that may have already been made use of by other side meanwhile.
asciilifeform: briefly revisiting http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-23#1865463 >> nobody noticed the omission, but i oughta've pointed out that 'a' and 'b' gotta proceed from opposite ends of the pad, when sending, otherwise risk collision ☝︎☟︎
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